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I also wanna thank offthehook, festerous, paladin 420, scruffy, gemini genetics, and two heads for all the advice up to this point... You guys are real and make this forum so informative/helpful. Much love guerrillas
hi man,
i think i life in a different part of the world but i would say this counts always:
the best guerilla spots are the unexpected ones.
i keep finding dumpster spots, like spots where the people from the village seemed to illegally dump their building materials (stones and shit) 10-20 years ago... basically these are spots where people would probably hide a body... nobody goes there.
not because they are super remote, just because in those spots grow lots of hedges and things. the spots dont seem of any good/interest for them. those are the spots i am digging.
i like to find spots near thick hedges. i take an hour or so to cut a nice hidden zig-zag entrance tunnel through that hedge (z shaped so nobody can see right through that entrance towards the plants).
also i prefer to spread out the guerilla spots. 10 spots with 5 plants, rather than 5 spots with 10 plants. my opinion is that if people (farmers, hunters) find a smallish clean garden they are less likely to get mad at it...
i love the idea of the swamp tubes but have never used them myself.
i guess it counts for swamps as well, sometimes it doesn't have to be the most remote area, a bold spot can work very well too.
i like spots where there are roads around, like in a 500m radius so its easier for offloading supplies.
I like the spot in your pic. but maybe a little to large.
There is no perfect spot or at least I haven't found one. I have been doing this a long time and I spend a lot of time searching for spots. I enjoy the outdoors so don't mind visiting miles of river beds and swamps looking for the right one.
To big and boat traffic can easily navigate it. If the only way to navigate it is a kayak with many portages than I like it.
If its a large swamp people will be there for wildlife. If its so beautiful that it makes you want to take a picture you are not the only one. Move on!!!
I like small areas often considered waste land. To wet for crops but too small for outdoor activities duck hunting etc. Its a real balance and I always get a gut feeling when I have found one.
Number one rule don't lie to yourself.
Just because the environment is great; lots of sun, plenty of water, black gold soil does not make it a good spot. You have to look at human traffic patterns and be a asshole (very disciplined approach) to yourself when making choices.
Look at the spot a second time ( different day)after all the excitement has worn off from the first visit. Look closer, blow a joint sit down for a hour or so and just think. Walk around look for problems. What about enter and exit strategies? I personally like private property because there is less human encroachment. Private property off of public land even better because i now have a enter and exit strategy.
Way too many factors to handle in a single post but 20 years of looking has taught me much and I still loose a plot once in a while to mother nature or land owners. So I make sure i have 3-4 spots not one(very important).
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I just read another thread you started on boy scout camp. Bad idea. I like that you are putting in your due diligence you're on the right track. Read my post above and pay special attention to the "dont lie to yourself" part.
You cant force a spot to be good just because you want to grow some weed. You sound like you have good drive use that and get out and look for spots. Use google earth and follow small creeks and rivers looking for swampy or marshy areas. On google earth they look like open pastures, no trees. 4 wheelers tracks show up clear as day on it also. You can eliminate many spots just by using it. Then get in your vehicle and check them out.
In my opinion you 100% need a bike. I don't need to elaborate why I'm sure.
Also read julians thread he is blunt and to the point.
I once PMed him about seeing a plane fly over while preparing a plot asking for his advice. He gave me it alright, "you stupid ass get the hell out of there you know better". The same goes to you and boy scout camps.
To fit your list of four criteria I feel an open water drainage system may be an idea worth exploring (if you are in an area with a major watershed). Much of the water that does not soak into the ground, because of the cement that surrounds most of us, needs to go somewhere. That somewhere is the gutter, then to a pipe underground, which leads to these open systems that if viewed in cut-away would look like \___/. Surrounding them are about twenty yards of dense woods and fencing because often people do not like to see the systems, or smell them when sewage sometimes enters. The break in the woods is provided by the \___/ is a great source of light, if running East to West. The nearby water is convenient and the surrounding area is most likely low-lying (because water is piped there using gravity) making for good natural watering.
I think a lot depends on where you live. In WI there are TONS of spots because there is TONS of public land and forest crop land (basically public land). If you are in Connecticut or something, I guess that isn't really the case and your expectations have to change.
You can buy a plat book that shows every piece of land in a given county and gives the name of the owner, we use them getting permission to trap private land, remember we trappers are out their. I personally would not take some ones hard work but their are plenty who would, so spread em out. The eggs and basket thing. google earth is good we used to order usgs maps back in the stone age when compases were still around. Around here the sheriffs dept takes prisoners out to clean drainage ditches, so caution their. good luck!
Other than hours of direct sun and having a place you honestly feel is secure/hidden enough, wanted to add another 1 or 2.
1. For me, access is EXTREMELY important. As far as having a place to park, place to get all your shit in order before setting out, whatever you situation is. Getting things in in Spring, out in Fall.. Assuming most of you are bringing shit in with a car to an extent, safe and inconspicuous parking spot.. Also, in case of shit hitting the fan, more than one exit that you hopefully know a lot more than whoever the other party is.
thought I had another one but lost it in typing the above LOL