Sad News on RC...PLEASE READ...

[Guest]

About 2 weeks ago I posted in the "Burn Juan Cafe" about getting *tagged* while surfing from an IP that resolved to FINCEN, or, The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network.

No shit, they tried to hack me while I was surfing CW.
They attempted to modify files in my computer.
I have an Adtrans hardware firewall and run Zone Alarm pro....it's obvious to me that they have backdoor access to both, neither one even hiccupped during the ordeal.
I have no doubt they were trying to either install a keystroke logger or a rootkit (pretty much the same thing if you look at it in the right fashion).

I POSTED ABOUT IT and warned everyone.

You dumbfucks blew me off saying that I didn't know what I was talking about.

Yes, I logged everything and several media outlets have the data.
I am not willing to state more than that about what happened as I do not know what will flag me, or single me out.

I have gone black....some may understand that, most won't.
I will not detail that because I am sure it would also tip LEO.

LEO, I know you're reading this.
Modifying data doesn't fall under your blanket wiretap Patriot act bullshit.
Eat me.
There are 7 copies of the proof floating around.....fetch fido.

 

[Brownpants]

Looks like they are going after the Big Fish!


Glad I am just a minnow in the ocean!

 

[Guest]

Real World Side - They always got me my seeds. A bit slow. A bit costly but RC delivered. Real World Legal Side - They aren't in a great position IMHO. I didn't like the C word I saw in there. That makes it Not Just About the Weed. That adds a shadow that's hard to shake. I wish RC and his people the best. Cyber Side - I really can't see myself Mourning a web site but I'm kinda sad. It's weird. OG was the first place I could talk to Many other growers about what we love doing. Previously that was a whispered and Secret thing. OG and CW helped spread the word but all is not lost. That info came from somewhere.

 

[Kiefer]

Hello fellows.. terrible news.. hope everything works out.. Guess i'll be seein you guys fairly regularly..

 

[Flaweed]

"by Marc Emery (03 Feb, 2006)

Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Company and Eurohemp.com Owners Busted in Raid

Cannabis Culture has developed a timeline of events we believe accurately account for the disappearance of overgrow.com, cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seeds (hempqc.com), and eurohemp.

On Monday evening, Richard Calrisian, the owner of the four websites, resident of Montreal, was contacted by his web service providers in Vancouver where his servers were situated that there may be a problem regarding a police investigation. RC told his provider to shut down the websites immediately. Within hours the police, its unknown what kind of police, apparently entered the server site with a warrant and apprehended the hardware that housed the four web sites.

In the early morning of Tuesday, police in Montreal moved in and arrested RC, his wife, and family members and an unknown number of employees.

It is alleged that RC, a pseudonym, is being held at Riviere-des-Prairie (RDP) jail in Montreal, while his wife in is Tanguay jail, across the river from RDP. CC Magazine called the prison and found no one there under the name Richard Calrisian. Their bail hearing should be on Monday, but it is unusual that a bail hearing has not yet been held. Typically they are held within 24 hours of arrest, unless an investigation is ongoing and the accused are being held temporarily without bail because of the risk of the arrest news informing persons also under investigation.

Reports of a drug bust in Hearst, Ontario are not related the seizure of overgrow.com websites."

Rez, there's something fishy about this whole thing. I mean, this thread started out as a question about "what happened to OG," and has morphed into this debate about civil liberties and government conspiracies. WTF has happened? Is it really just a temporary shutdown for (much needed) upgrades, or shall I expect a knock at my door, and my dingo shot in the head?


There's just so much spec and supposition going on that I don't know what to think.

I'm hoping for the best, but fearing the worst.

But then, I just double-clutched a waterpipe full of Grapefruit.


J.

 

[Guest]

rc WAS arrested.. og/cw/hs has been shut down servers seized.. FACT.

 

[tuttlebud]

FACT as we know it AT THIS TIME....but tomorrow is a "new day"...have to see what it brings.
tutt

 

[Flaweed]

cannable....that's fucked-up news. But do you have a link to that "fact?" Mind you, I ain't doubting what you're saying, but I'm just one of those assholes that needs verification.

If this is all true, it's a sad day.


Peace, J.

 

[StormBringerX]

This is just some information that I dig up. Has RC been nabbed or not I don't know but, the overgrow server is not "offline" the webservices on the machine is off which is why no webpages display. There are other services on that machine that are working, for example:

[root@ns1 ~]$ telnet 65.39.170.187 [portnumber removed]
Trying 65.39.170.187...
Connected to overgrow.com (65.39.170.187).
Escape character is '^]'.
220 cannabisworld.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.5/8.12.5; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:16:09 -0500 17:28:53 -0500
quit
221 2.0.0 cannabisworld.org closing connection
Connection closed by foreign host.

This leads me to belive that the police do NOT have the machine in custody. My take on all of this is the following. We know that sunday night/ monday morning OG was having server trouble. I seen Maint. messages and such there monday morning. It looks to me that the server crashed at some point and rebooted and not all the services on the machine restarted. Something, Maybe the police, maybe a family emergency, something urgent come up and RC has not been able to get back to the server to finish bringing it online.

All the messages and posts on OG are stored in a MySQL Database from VB. From what I know of OG there database is HUGE. IF LEO has/had it in there posession it would take them a insurmauntable amount of time to try and sort though. (Which I do not beleive LEO has the server or has had access to it).

Also, LEO needs ALOT more information than a picture and a IP address to get a warrent to search. If people are following the "rules of growing" there should be no problem due to LEO not being able to gain enough information for get a warrent. As to the PM's I do not know if VB stored those encrypted in the database or if maybe RC installed a hack which would encrypt the PM's in the database.

 

[Puffy]

Finally someone with some common sense....^^^

 

[StormBringerX]

Has anybody near RC called and check the local hospitals and such? God forbid to say this but the obituraies also? I'm not doubting GN's information as given to them. But there could be any number of things. Say he was in the middle of transporting the new servers and was in a wreak, Might be in the hospital and his family members at his side.

Just some things to think about. Just cause the site went down and nobody has heard from RC dosn't mean that LEO had to have something to do with it. That is just the natural assumptions based on his profession.

Lets keep clear heads till we see and hear some concret information. Either which way I hope RC is ok and everything works out soon.

 

[illegal_smile]

stfw... RC and family are in jail and the cost is going to be high for them ..... This is according to gypsy ... do you think he is fucking with us... lol... I don't nor OP nor anybody... did you read any posts before posting your summations?? My point is those of us not in jail atm are on the way back burner as far as I am concerned compared to those who provided us a home for information exchange who are jailed for providing this service.... can you think about somebody other than you for a second here?...Jesus titty fucking Christ this self centered crap is disgusting as fuck!...imho...

 

[illegal_smile]

It is with great sadness that I bring you the news that RC and HS, OG and CW have been taken down by the authorities in Canada.....

...I have it from a bonofide source that it happened on monday and RC's computers/servers have most probably been siezed, they spent 2 days going thru his house and removed alot of stuff ...

His wife and some members of his family were also taken into custody and it's possible that she may be released tommorrow on bail....There has not been a peep in the media about this so there could be a reason why it was not advertised by LEO......BE WARNED! not to try and log on to Overgrow or Cannaworld for now since most certainly the security of that site has been compromised and if it comes back up without me first hearing from RC then it is NOT being run by him.....think about it!

...This could bring up some real security issues with many Overgrow/Cannabisworld members.........be warned guys and do what you need to do to make it safer for all of you.......duck and cover if needs be....

....Yours Faithfully...

Gypsy Nirvana

If you didnt bother to start on the first page ...HERE!

 

[Guest]

i think its fair to question the information posted by gypsy. there is no clear cut fact at this point.

 

[StormBringerX]

look illegal_smile I have followed every thread on here and other sites concerning OG. Being self centered would mean keeping information to myself and not posting it. The information I posted about the servers is Verifiable. Want the port number to try it on your own PC? Fine it's port (removed for security) which is a alt SMTP port so users can bypass the port 25 block that alot of ISP's put in place.

If somebody can get me real estimates on the bandwidth usuage of IC or what OG was I would consider providing hosting or a Alt backup site for OG.

I so wanted to flame back and curse, but that will succeed in doing nothing but creating a flame thread out of this. If you wish to talk about this more please do it in PM to me. Thanks.

 

[Guest]

hmmm Storm.. So you were able to ping the site and get a response using a shell acct?
That would mean the servers are not totally down, strange.......

And damn ya gotta have some skills if you really gained root......

 

[StormBringerX]

That wasn't me logged into OG server or anything. That is one of the Linux servers that I run at my ISP. Which also means that if LEO come looking for my IP address they have to see me first to even attempt to get the information warrent or not. If anything of that sort comes accross my desk, trust me everyone here at IC will know about it.

 

[Guest]

i think its fair to question the information posted by gypsy. there is no clear cut fact at this point.

The only FACTs are:
1) Richard got arrested.
and
2) The RCMP took the servers.
Gypsy** spoke personally to a friend of RC's in Canada who confirmed that this much is true.

The rest is supposition.




**Gypsy can also contact RC directly,and RC's been oddly,completely UNavailable.

 

[illegal_smile]

look illegal_smile I have followed every thread on here and other sites concerning OG. Being self centered would mean keeping information to myself and not posting it. The information I posted about the servers is Verifiable. Want the port number to try it on your own PC? Fine it's port 2525 which is a alt SMTP port so users can bypass the port 25 block that allot of ISP's put in place.

If somebody can get me real estimates on the bandwidth usuage of IC or what OG was I would consider providing hosting or a Alt backup site for OG.

I so wanted to flame back and curse, but that will succeed in doing nothing but creating a flame thread out of this. If you wish to talk about this more please do it in PM to me. Thanks.

I wasn't even thinking nor talking about you dude!... Your info is interesting and not self centered but facts.... I was referring to those who seem obsessed that they don't have OG or CW to play at or worried that that 1 plant bagseed grow is going to send them on probation for a few months.... if the server is up though don't you think it may be in LEO's hands atm?... I believe Gypsy more than anyone else here atm... Why? Because he is in the bizz... out of harms way and personally connected to the parties involved and the parties involved with the parties involved... but I reckon if you are so eager to own my comments Ill let ya... just please a thought or two for our fallen comrade and his family... I guaranty ya' his day is more messed up then ours is!..

Edited because I said CC when I ment CW


peace

 

[StormBringerX]

it's cool illegal_smile I have to agree with you. I applogize for my rant. If server was in the hands of LEO and the hooked it up to the internet at there location it would do no good because if would not be able to have the same IP address due to tcp routing restrictions. Could it be in there hands and still sitting at the hosting company... LEO to lazy for that, they would yank the power, rip em out of the racks and head off with them. There not gonna leave somebody sitting in the cold floor of a datacenter to screw with a server.

Rez, My only point is on 2. IF the RCMP nabbed the server(s) why are they still online in the datacenter (see above)

A question I have is how long can the RCMP hold someone without seeing a judge and having bail sentencing? In the US i think it is like 72 hours max. Anybody know this for CA?

I keep RC and his family in my thoughts and prays and hope the best for them.