Russet mites vs. Broad mites

[707smoke]

Can anyone post pictures of Broad mite damage and Russet mite damage? Do they cause the same damage to plants? I have had Russet mites before and it seems like people posting Broad mite damage is the same. Are people mixing up the 2 types of mites?

 

[Robrites]

I think there is some blending of the two. it is very important to know what the pest is before you try to treat it. Best bet is to get a scope....this one is less than $11 on amazon
it is cheap but will work.

Carson 60X-100X MicroMax LED Lighted Pocket Microscope

soil problems can mimic the mite symptoms so if you do not find mites, get a soil test. Logan labs has been recommended to me by others...I just sent them my dirt today.

Here are my problems and the feedback I received may help you

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=310770

Good Luck!

 

[Fly by Night]

Broads can take a russet hands down

 

[prptualyGROWing]

 

[prptualyGROWing]

These are plants I believe to be infected with broad mite. Strange curl with a rubber like texture to the leaves.

Believe it or not these are actually bouncing back I've been hitting them with a mix of kontos and and 1 of 3 other miticides rotating each spray to keep em guessing. But Kontos in there each time.

 

[panick503]

To my knowledge the treatments are the same for both

 

[Permacultuure]

I sure hope that this cannabis-kills-cancer shit isn't a sham. Just being exposed to all this carcinogenic shit constantly even with rain suit & P95 respirator can't be that great down the road. Not to mention smoking products that have been hit with them. I can at least know to avoid smoking my own buds but it's not so easy to tell what has been done with someone else's unless you're smoking tested bud, even then there's no guarantee.

Not everyone admits to using this shit, there are many "closet sprayers".

Really?! So you will avoid smoking your own Meds, bc you fear they are dangerous? But your totally comfortable with selling your product to some unknowing smoker? Some interesting logic there....

Regulation will change this. Through proper testing these "closet sprayers" will be exposed. I say proper testing bc most labs can not accurately test for pesticide residuals. We have cross tested from a few different labs, each one has failed to identify pesticide residuals that a more competant lab was able to identify.

There are organic methods to combat these bugs, proper ipm's and regular inspection and you can hold these bugs off.

Russets and broads produce essentially the same effects as opposed to cyclamen mites which tend to show more necrotic types of damage. All of which can be treated with the same methods.

 

[Permacultuure]

Yes really, I'm being honest, not putting on some front to impress you on the Internet.

Sometimes you have to do what you have to do, within the knowledge and resources you have, to get paid. Not every action taken in life is beautiful or correct. I'm sure you got in the game to live a monk-like life while serving other's needs to get high as a luxury

You have the knowledge that what your using is bad, and potentially harmful.

You have the resource of the Internet, most importantly the mag. Which is filled with organic remedies, or even safe non organic remedies.

So what you chose to do with the "knowledge and resources you have" is to spray your plants with something known to be harmful, with the full intention to pass the product off to someone other than yourself, bc your not even willing to consume it. That's an extreme lack of consciousness and a heavy dose of lazy.

You forgetting the golden rule my friend, treat others as you wish to be treated.

 

[Morcheeba*]

drow,

you are a pathetic waste of oxygen and i wish i never opened your thread wanting to help.

i wasnt going to post help but i will anyway, for those unfortunate to encounter you in real life.

guardian mite spray......its a combo of essential oils. google them, they have a fb outlet.


THE BELOW QUOTE IN MY SIG DOESNT APPLY TO CANNABIS FORM JACKASSES LIKE drow.

 

[hyposomniac]

I believe what you meant is lack of conscience, which is mostly true, and a heavy dose of lazy, which is also true. But those are also the resources I have to deal with.

You always make the best and most honest decision, right? ("Best" for everyone else takes priority. Yourself, secondary.) You're never lazy, right? Good for you.

You should stop trying to justify your unethical behavior to icmag because no one is hearing it. Get a job at Wal-Mart because that's what youre equipped for w your 'resources'.

 

[hyposomniac]

I wonder how many of you are closet sprayers dumping Avid and Forbid and god knows what else as you post.

2 wrongs don't make a right.
And you are allowed to set your moral standards higher than the lowest common denominator.

 

[hyposomniac]

You must really think I give a fuck what you think of me.

I haven't mentioned what I think of you really. It's counterproductive, and your actions speak for themselves.
And I certainly don't expect a sociopath to care what I think of them.


Only here because I was looking to read more about mites.
Only got involved because I am a consumer of commercial weed, and you manage to fuck it up.

 

[who dat is]

How's about everybody stop taking a shit on this thread? I legitimately was curious about the difference between the mites, just as the OP posted.

Does anybody have any information regarding this? This would be a perfect thread for somebody to search for in the future and read up on. Are they both susceptible to heat treatments as a non chemical remedy?

 

[Permacultuure]

IME the two produce very similar damage. The bugs are so small it's tough to decipher between the two. Luckily they require the same methods for eradication.

There is a ton of information on both throughout the Internet and icmag, but for those too lazy to research here it is

Heat treatment can work but you MUST get your room up to at least 120f for an hr. Using a IR gun on your plants to ensure your pants are actually getting up to temp, some shady areas can be difficult

Implementing beneficials mite like cucumeris and swirskii is also a great defense. Cucumeris are the only ones that eat eggs and larvae, they have become my favorite choice.

In combination with these bugs you can spray two products
Grandevo and pfr97, spraying with these products once a week until control has been met, then rotating them every week. These are designed to work in Conjunction with these beneficial mites but they will kill everything else. It takes 3-4 days from the first spray before you start seeing results

Adding aspirin in to your res at 1 325mg per gallon, uncoated tablets, helps the plants snap out of the "funk" these bugs put the plants into by boosting their immune system.

There's your resource Row, much love my friend.

 

[Mikell]

UCDavis

A very solid go-to for general information on any pest.

Don't mind drow, he's on a mission to troll.

 

[Veterangrow]

I want to start off by saying in no way am I an expert.

If you want to kill russet mites or control their population down to less then 10% I would recommend this form of treatment. It is organic and I have used it on two grows now dealing with these bastards.

It is important to ph your solution after mixing to 5.8 to 6.0. A major boost in kill would be to add ice to your solution. Russet mites hate extreme cold or heat. You will not see a difference until about day 2 or 3. They,will not be moving or act very very eradic.

Day 1

60 MLS a gallon of Big time Exterminator. Be carefully that it's not the new formula which is 3X more powerful

Day 2

60 ml of big time exterminator

Day 3

Either mycotrol or botanigard at 10 MLS a gallon. Mycotrol is OMRI CERT. botanigard is not but they are the same solution from the same company.

Day 4

Nothing. Plant recovery

Day 5

Big time exterminator 60 ml a gallon

Day 6

Mycotrol or botanigard at 10 MLS agallon.

AFTER DAY SIX SPRAY EVERY OTHER DAY FOR A WEEK. AFTER THAT ONCE EVER 3 DAYS ALTERNATE BOTH PRODUCTS
I hope this helps anyone who tries it