Russet mite damage / mutants

[lysergicCO]

I'm officially losing my shit. I had an infestation of russet mites and have had multiple successful crops since. The problem is young plants and clones spontaneously develop symptoms regardless of my avid/forbid dips. I haven't been able to scope a single one since the infestation I'm just chasing symptoms. Older plants are fine and stay that way to harvest.

I have bleached my entire house, steam cleaned, brought in new genetics twice, apply aspirin every watering, painted rooms, but it keeps happening.

Now, my clones from mothers that had very light issues before forbid are growing out as mutants. Should I toss them or wait for them to recover? The mutant growth started in the last 2 weeks they were growing just fine.

 

[_tessarecting]

You can still beat them organically, click the link in my sig

 

[lysergicCO]

Th[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]e PFR-97 sounds interesting. Wettable sulfur is a part of my IPM. [/FONT]

 

[_tessarecting]

Used properly it destroys them, do a series of heat treatments first, even the floor needs to be over 115f

 

[lysergicCO]

Used properly it destroys them, do a series of heat treatments first, even the floor needs to be over 115f

I don't have problems eradicating them in flower rooms, I'm pulling perfect harvests with no pesticides.

In veg, small plants are profoundly damaged regardless of pesticides then recover after a painful month or 2.

The mutant growth could be a separate issue.

I'm beginning to think there is a stage of growth that lives inside the plant. When I was first infected plants took some time to express damage now it is instant, severe and I can't scope them anywhere. I was hoping I'm not the only one experiencing this.

 

[JohnKimble]

Maybe try using predator mites instead of pesticides ?

After infection is gone, there is a poisen the russet mites will have left behind in the plant, so it does take some time for them to get rid of it.

There is a growing channel on youtube called medicropper and he had this happen. One of his strains Animal crackers mutated and started growing slow, he took a clone off it, grew that it was still messed up, took of a clone of that, grew it, still messed up. Its like the whole genetics of it was damaged permanently by the russet mites. Seems like a real bummer thing to have happen if you have keeper pheno in clone only form!!

 

[lysergicCO]

Maybe try using predator mites instead of pesticides ?

After infection is gone, there is a poisen the russet mites will have left behind in the plant, so it does take some time for them to get rid of it.

There is a growing channel on youtube called medicropper and he had this happen. One of his strains Animal crackers mutated and started growing slow, he took a clone off it, grew that it was still messed up, took of a clone of that, grew it, still messed up. Its like the whole genetics of it was damaged permanently by the russet mites. Seems like a real bummer thing to have happen if you have keeper pheno in clone only form!!

I've had great luck with ambyseilus andersonii predator mites but not on the small plants.

Interesting so they do cause mutant growth.. It's definitely a bummer I have a lot of cuts I don't want to lose but it's looking like time for new genetics again. The mother that cut was taken from is perfectly healthy, I don't understand. Growing used to be fun!

 

[JohnKimble]

I've had great luck with ambyseilus andersonii predator mites but not on the small plants.

Interesting so they do cause mutant growth.. It's definitely a bummer I have a lot of cuts I don't want to lose but it's looking like time for new genetics again. The mother that cut was taken from is perfectly healthy, I don't understand. Growing used to be fun!

Yeah if you want to see the problem this guy had with his mutation watch his channel playlist here.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP3RPyf1clIClwR4h8TNygH46bOgTrdeg

He talks about it in various parts of each episode. You might have to watch all the episodes after ep.22 to get the full picture..

 

[moses wellfleet]

The plants should not be permanently affected by the Russet mites, unless they infected them with a virus which I suppose is not impossible. Feed Aspirin (salycylic acid) to help them recover!!

 

[lysergicCO]

The plants should not be permanently affected by the Russet mites, unless they infected them with a virus which I suppose is not impossible. Feed Aspirin (salycylic acid) to help them recover!!

I always feed aspirin it doesn't seem to do much for the younger plants. I don't think there's a virus they do fine in flower after being nursed along. Larger plants are better overnight after avid/forbid the small ones struggle for a month or 2 regardless.

This clone was taken from a clean healthy mom which had a very minor episode of russets months ago.

 

[Timm]

Maybe your plants are fucked up because of the pesticides

What doses of forbid are you giving them?

 

[lysergicCO]

Yeah if you want to see the problem this guy had with his mutation watch his channel playlist here.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP3RPyf1clIClwR4h8TNygH46bOgTrdeg

He talks about it in various parts of each episode. You might have to watch all the episodes after ep.22 to get the full picture..

Yeah those are some long videos cool though. Haven't found the mutant parts yet.

Maybe your plants are fucked up because of the pesticides

What doses of forbid are you giving them?

1ml/gal

 

[stoned40yrs]

Grow them out. Any mutant plants I get in veg always straighten out and grow fine in bloom.

 

[lysergicCO]

I think I figured it out, with these clones anyways.

I had been growing with some tough brown algae and fusarium in my main room. Adding physan 20 at 1ml/10gal completely sorted me out. I did the same with this system as a precaution but apparently DWC does not like it.

The roots were reddish brown, not slimy or smelly but not growing. I changed the res with h2o2 instead and they are now bursting with fuzzy white roots and looking much better.