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RSC Malana Cream Indoors

AbuKeif

Member
Hello all—
As a budding landrace geek, I’m interested in contributing in my own small way to the body of knowledge about how and whether these varieties can be grown indoors. For my inaugural ICMag experiment, I’m working on three Malana Cream plants from Real Seed Company—I’m really grateful for the grow reports contributed by meizzwang, et al, which will contextualize my attempt.

I’ll be growing in soil, and have made the decision to do 12/12 from basically the moment the sets of true leaves emerged, since height control will be a primary concern and I simply don’t have the room to let them grow four or five feet before flipping to bloom. I’ll also most likely be implementing an aggressive regimen of topping and supercropping in order to encourage them to head sideways a bit instead of reaching for the [artificial] sky. Most of their life will be in a 2’x3’ tent under a 300w Mars Hydro LED.





I had a 3/5 germination rate from my five-pack from the Real Seed Company (they were purchased in fall 2018, so age may be a factor—I’m also waiting on another pack, which I may toss into the mix depending on whether or not I get both males and females to do some pollination.) Two are packing on the leaves, while one seems a bit more ‘runty,’ to borrow a word from another grower, but has recently decided to show hints of another set of leaves/nodes. This could also be the result of getting more light--until recently, they were all chillaxing under a 110w LED along with an RSC Lebanese that’s getting to the end of flower, and which was rescued from outside after botrytis started to become an issue. (I had tried to make some seeds for a second generation of Lebanese, but the pollen I collected from the males seems to have been a bust—I guess that’s a story for another time.)

I would be particularly curious to hear from anyone about recommended height-management strategies! Any thoughts on LST vs. topping vs. supercropping, etc.?
 

meizzwang

Member
Looking forward to this thread! Out of the Himalayan strains, Malana Cream is probably one of the best choices for indoor experiments because it finishes relatively quickly. I would also try Parvati, which will be done outdoors here in the PNW around late October.


One little trick for height control is to grow them for a month or two indoors from seed and then take cuttings from the top of the plant, which is vegetatively more "mature." You can switch the cuttings to flowering even before they're rooted, these strains root very easily! Just be sure to keep the soil temps. warm.
 

AbuKeif

Member
Looking forward to this thread! Out of the Himalayan strains, Malana Cream is probably one of the best choices for indoor experiments because it finishes relatively quickly. I would also try Parvati, which will be done outdoors here in the PNW around late October.


One little trick for height control is to grow them for a month or two indoors from seed and then take cuttings from the top of the plant, which is vegetatively more "mature." You can switch the cuttings to flowering even before they're rooted, these strains root very easily! Just be sure to keep the soil temps. warm.


Hi Meizzwang--thanks for the reply! The only RSC seeds I've run indoors so far have been the Highland Thai, which required severe manhandling and patience to keep under ~5 feet for a mere 24 weeks or so... that experience kind of emboldened me for other zany sativa-ish experiences indoors (though I note that Ngakpa finds the idea of the sativa-indica continuum less relevant to these unworked strains.) I am definitely excited about the idea of something that finishes sooner. It looks like they're sold out of the Parvati at the moment, but I'm hoping to play around with my Kumaoni and Johaar freebies indoors at some point in the future as well.


I appreciate the tip re: tops, though in the past, I've had terrible luck cloning the tops of plants. The 'received wisdom' that I later came across suggested that better luck is typically had with shoots from the lower halves of plants, and that's been my limited experience with other more extensively-worked strains, like ******'s Herijuana and JOTI Blueberry. Given that some topping will probably be necessary in any case, I look forward to the opportunity to see how much more vigorous and 'willing to live' the Malana is. Will keep the forums posted on how it goes, hopefully with less-terrible pics than the one I produced the other night...
 

AbuKeif

Member
(Please forgive the dumb question, y'all, as I'm relatively new here: I know the forum rules forbid direct links to external sites, but are we really censored from using the names of well-known breeders like the seller of the abovementioned Herijuana? I don't want to get booted, but also haven't been able to find a policy that would explain all the asterisks!)


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AbuKeif

Member
Welp, turns out that all three of my plants are female! A decent problem to have, but I was hoping to propagate a second generation to play around with. Luckily, my latest order from Kwik Seeds arrived, and 4/6 Malana Cream seeds have sprouted tails after a soak and a vacation in a paper towel. Wish me a boy! I’m hoping that the more-established plants will still be pushing pistils by the time I’ve sexed these new seeds—all the males in my seed-runs have seemed to drop pollen a little early for maximum seed production, anyway.

With the arrival of pistils, the three girls have also started to reach for the sky in a huge way—photos to follow when I get back to my camera later today... stay tuned!
 

AbuKeif

Member
[edited to remove the mile-and-a-half of alphabet soup that resulted when I tried to upload photos in a way that proved very, very wrong]
 
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AbuKeif

Member
Well, dang. That was one spectacular failure to post photos. I wish I had editing privileges--is any friendly mod capable of doing me the favor of deleting the word-vomit in that last post?
 

AbuKeif

Member
After you get 50 posts you'll be able to edit your posts and PM. :tiphat:


Looking forward to it--onward and upward!


In the meantime, to save anyone the trouble, here's more or less what I wrote before trying to add photos in a very wrong, terrible, no-good, very bad way...


Since last I posted, the original three ladies have continued to flower. It's been interesting to see the variation in height--two of them have received some improvised supercropping a few times since going into bloom, while one is much more compact in stature. In the photos above, it's short lady first, with hand for scale, followed by medium lady, and finally the “reach-for-the-sky” pheno.

Thankfully, even the tallest plant isn't pushing the limits of my light/tent setup--they're all under 90cm/3 feet, still, but they do all want to be vertical. In the future I would consider vegging a bit and topping before the flip, but not for more than a few weeks with my current space.

The four little ones are more Malana Cream seedlings, after a new supply of seeds arrived in the mail a few weeks ago. (Thanks, RSC/Kwik Seeds--the name is apt, swiftest shipping from across the pond that I've ever experienced!). 6/6 germed, but only the four made it, and they’re now under 12/12 as well.

At this point, it's sort of a race to see if I get a male from round two that spills some pollen in time to fertilize the females that are farther along... I might just have to settle for some sinsemilla with this first batch. Stay tuned!
 

AbuKeif

Member
Well folks, I have on my hands what we call a "good news, bad news" situation. The good news is that the four additional Malana Cream plants turned out, quite conveniently, to be two males and two females--just about perfect! My dreams of doing an open pollination to manufacture some more seeds to play with have been kept alive.


In the bad news department, I was keeping the MC girls that were farther along in a tent with several Highland Thai plants, most of which had continued to reach for the sky without showing sex whatsoever. A week ago, I believed I had zapped all the males early enough, but one of them laid low and almost overnight formed bananas and started blasting pollen everywhere. The result? I now have three Malana Cream x Highland Thai mamas, which are looking almost garishly fecund in light of my annoyance:






I was trying to do too many things at once in the same spot; don't be like me, kids. In an attempt to learn my lesson, I've relocated the four unsullied MC plants to a different tent, where they'll hopefully get to know one another better. (Listless plant in the middle is a wheezing RSC Lebanese clone, which will depart soon.)

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AbuKeif

Member
Malana Cream X Highland Thai should make for some trees. :biggrin:


I guess I have that to look forward to! It would be kind of cool to grow a plant with some qualities of the Thai that had a prayer of finishing outdoors where I am at 41N. The Thai would never (I've tried, just for giggles--no bud, though I could have started a hemp factory), but according to the RSC website, the MC finishes in September or October at 32N. It's looking like I'll have a boatload of seeds to play around with in search of that possibility, if I wish...



Perhaps it's odd, but I am feeling kind of guilty at having botched the opportunity to keep the line pure, even with such a small number of individuals. Wasn't really what I set out to do, and there's no way to undo it. C'est la vie--I won't be so lackadaisical with future seed runs, that's for sure!
 
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