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[Creeperpark]

In conclusion with the regards to the Rotating Lights thread. I can say there is one major draw back with this light blending. I don't know why, however I know for sure that these lights have a high ratio of Hermaphrodites. The growth is fast and very vigorous with stinky fat buds in the end however I have seeds. Four times in a row and at least one plant swings over to male flowers. Has anyone had this problem?

 

[Switcher56]

In conclusion with the regards to the Rotating Lights thread. I can say there is one major draw back with this light blending. I don't know why, however I know for sure that these lights have a high ratio of Hermaphrodites. The growth is fast and very vigorous with stinky fat buds in the end however I have seeds. Four times in a row and at least one plant swings over to male flowers. Has anyone had this problem?

a link to the original thread would prove most helpful

 

[f-e]

Perhaps the lights being such different colours is the reason, if we are to blame the lights. The white light activates processes in the green sector, that the purple light slams the breaks on. Or perhaps the white has far-red which the purple lacks. Something greatly diminishing is a good clue that time is running out for plants. Which is when otherwise happy girls will put out male parts, to get the job done.

 

[Switcher56]

Perhaps the lights being such different colours is the reason, if we are to blame the lights. The white light activates processes in the green sector, that the purple light slams the breaks on. Or perhaps the white has far-red which the purple lacks. Something greatly diminishing is a good clue that time is running out for plants. Which is when otherwise happy girls will put out male parts, to get the job done.

From what I have gathered, from those who use different lights for a plethora of reasons, they need to be homogeneous to be beneficial. In other words they need to play nice amongst themselves. WE also live in a consumer society... balance is the key to everything Yin/Yang

 

[f-e]

I think spectrum as an aid to flower initiation needs looking at again. It's thought our plant is only interested in night-hours, but things like this make me doubt that finding.

Movers.. just clouds.
Adding some MH to a sodium room.. seems alright
Swapping sodium for mh in the final weeks.. never again. However the lamps were hps conversion types I later found. So I lost half my lumens.
Vegging LED, then hps bloom... no problem.

A lowering of the far red seems a good candidate. We know its related to stretch response, a mechanism that replaces the need to flower.

 

[Switcher56]

I think spectrum as an aid to flower initiation needs looking at again. It's thought our plant is only interested in night-hours, but things like this make me doubt that finding.

Movers.. just clouds.
Adding some MH to a sodium room.. seems alright
Swapping sodium for mh in the final weeks.. never again. However the lamps were hps conversion types I later found. So I lost half my lumens.
Vegging LED, then hps bloom... no problem.

A lowering of the far red seems a good candidate. We know its related to stretch response, a mechanism that replaces the need to flower.

I was talking folks mix and match lights (especially in bloom) e.g a separate veg room in the same area for the lack of a better word. e.g the flower room, where a mixture sometimes more than 2 different types can be found.

 

[f-e]

Damn. I forgot to like' the thread. Thanks for sharing this with us creeper.
Am I just seeing now that it's not burple? It looks rather red..

 

[Creeperpark]

a link to the original thread would prove most helpful

The old link is so slow, it takes 5 minutes to come up and that's the reason for starting this one.

 

[Creeperpark]

f-e, I'm running 4400 watts in this grow and amazed by the daily growth. Here is another photo of this White Widow putting out male pollen sacks. I used some Satori male pollen at the first of new flowers, however it didn't help stabilize the plant. .

 

[Creeperpark]

I will split the lights up in the next grow and use the same seeds. It would be nice to know it the red lights have more growth, but also more hermies too. Since I'm ole school I use the older strains from the past and been doing it for years! You youngsters may laugh but I love the old strains the most.

 

[f-e]

No laughing from this corner.
The old one's are the good ones. The new one's.... get um while you can.

 

[chilliwilli]

Mixing cdm with hps worked very good for me. I used the 150w hci tt 942 osram powerball together with 250-400w osram nav-t super4y and got a good bump in yield.

2*150w added to 400w hps did double my yield. When i calculate my average energy consumption(~550w) its also good looking. Went from 0,6-0,7 gpw to 1 gpw.

I think the trick with the light mover is that u can light different parts of a plant better. The further apart from the light the better the lower buds are lighted. Imo the same effect would be rotating the plants and switching places frequently.

 

[Switcher56]

Its also been showed that light itself has very little impact on the characteristics of flower development, suggesting that during flowering. Light factors such as different wavelengths, has very little to no impact on floral morphology.

https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/community/photons_corner/to-defoliate-or-not-to-defoliate/

 

[chilliwilli]

From my experience i can say its strain dependend how flower developement is affected by light. First try with cdm was only the osram hci- tt(3x150w/~3x4) and i got 2 plants that grew big but developed only small buds. The strains were sleestack x skunk and austrian power kush. @ about 4 weeks 12/12 i switched 1x150w hci for 250w hps and flower development exploded and the 2 lagged plants did catch up. I don't think that its only because the light got intenser since 3×150w hci-tt is a little to less for 3x4.

With the austrian trainwreck clone i got biggest difference. The cdm/hps mix produced nice roundish buds with only a small foxtail nipple at end of flower. The hps only trainwreck produced elongated buds with strong foxtailing.

 

[Switcher56]

... just posted what I came across since this particular convo started.

 

[St. Phatty]

still a good looking bud.

If the plant sees pollen at the end, well who wants to smoke tiny seeds.

BUT it will take some time to develop tiny seeds.

Pollen that is so late it can't make any seeds, not such a big problem.

 

[Creeperpark]

Thank you Switcher56, super article, worth the time to read, loaded with helpful info!

 

[Switcher56]

U R welcome