Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[itisme]

DrSchroom your quote describes a market correction. I know the tulip industry has rebounded. They got cat houses in Vegas where you get charged a lot of money for (tu lips)

The Gov't should decide your healthcare?

Do you not see what they do with every other aspect of your life? If you smoke a joint and they want to, you get NO HEALTHCARE! Like the other entitlement programs they create! I want a friendly Gov't too but if you give the Gov't the power then you may sign your death certificate.

They already take food stamps away while most get them due to having a kid!

Now they want to take away Workers Compensation & Unemployment Checks! See NEWT and others real ideas!

Research why we left and created America gang. We were fleeing the oppressive Catholic Church strangle hold on society and a structured class system. THE CONSTITUTION IS OUR KEY TO FREEDOM AND SUCCESS ON EVER SINGLE LEVEL!

They want to use the ever invasive drug laws to take away anything they can! It is only a matter of time before they do the same to Medicare/caid and any GOVERNEMENT MANDATED BULLSHIT!

If you only listen to one damn thing!
NO GOVERNMENT MANDATES OF ANY KIND! THE LEAD TO UNWANTED (MAN DATES) IF YOU GET MY DRIFT!
Deliverance, Now squeal like a pig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gLN3QoN-q8

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

The real issues isn't the haves and have not's! It is the Gov't intervention into our lives from everything we put in our body like weed to now a higher tax on sugary and fatty foods.

Yep. You get diabetes from all that shit and your medical expenses cost 4x the average human - in a system that costs 4x it's average. Medical expenses have us by the balls.

The free market should decide those things,

That would be like you living on the upper west side while drawing a rural Georgia wage. You'd have to sideline as a fraud, hoping you'd cover your legal loopholes so a judge wouldn't fine you or put you in jail. Damn, I've got you sounding like a Wall Street banker.

not the Gov't. The Gov't wants to help with housing but they cause an economic crises and bail out the banks and dump it on us!

Many mistakes were made. We deregulated a market that hadn't wrecked the train for almost 60 years. Took less than 8 years to almost total it.

The problem is GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION that causes the issues. To equate picking winners and loser in the stock market/bank bailouts shows that your not being objective......

What it shows is you're not interested in the probability that not lending to troubled banks would have generated more contraction. We had a $7 trillion contraction in the 4th quarter of 2008 alone. That's practically free fall. If you were forced to jump off your roof, you wouldn't hesitate to jump through the awning to break your fall. Buying another awning is 360 degrees better than selling your ass.

SOCIALIST PROGRAMS(city or county water, road, interstates) is being very discobicuit of you. RP would even support those but only the interstate needs him there.

How's Ron gonna support water systems with no Environmental Protection Agency. How's Ron gonna support roads and interstates with no Department Of Transportation?

Interesting you mention objective, something you apparently experience little of.

We aren't against interstates. That don't violate our rights.

Good to know you have no problems paying for road maintenance.

Medicare/caid, & Social Security do fit the socialist mold and that is why they are insolvent. The Gov't had a stockpile of SS cash and spent the fuck out of (PONZI SCHEME)

If we do nothing, SS will stay solvent until 2038. If we still do nothing, SS will continue to pay 80% of full benefits. Of course we won't wait until 2038 to manage revenues and tweak any potential shortfalls.

All systems have to be managed according to revenues and expenditures, even private corporations.

One side of the aisle wants your retirement money in the private sector. Listen to your own George Carlin link for crying out loud.

while the refill it with our dollars that are already spent....

Now that's just nuts. Instead of rattling off innumerable falsities, try actually proving a single malady with references.

Then medicare/caid are broken because individuals have no reason to apply any cost control methods and the system is corrupt (NEOCONS, SOCIALIST). That said Ron Paul isn't even going to ger rid of those programs either. He will allow the young to opt out, vs OBUMMER wanting GOVERNMENT MANDATED INSURANCE!

Next time you see Ron, remind him that the PPAC Act is congressional law. That's means he'd have to persuade Congress to go along with his proposal.


Congress - "How many bills have passed into law under Dr. Paul's 26 years of national leadership?"

Ron Paul - "One in six-hundred twenty."

 

[ShroomDr]

Govt Healthcare is Medicare, ask an old person to give it up and earn a vote for your opponent.

The problem is the unfettered costs that have ZERO repercussions. I can charge $8 for an aspirin, and then offer 'medicare' a discount down to $3. Then offer a 'deal' for Humana of $4, and BlueCross @ $4.10. Those without insurance are billed $8, and it falls to the states to pick up the loses when bills are not paid. Poor people dont have money to pay, so they are blamed as the source of the problem. If they did have money, they would probably spend it elsewhere, having good credit doesnt really matter when youre poor.

The real problem is $8 aspirins, everything else is just smoke and mirrors, like hot bitches in a magicians act.

The govt shouldnt be getting fleeced $3 for an aspirin, but they do, and that is why the GOP wanted to overhaul medicare (quietly). Sen. Ryan tried this in Nov (before the elections) Newt came out AGAINST A GOP idea, and became the GOP front runner.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

IMO, the reason we largely absolved the health care industry of price regulations is due to heavily regulated drug safety and medical malpractice measures. It's also my opinion that little to no cost ceiling self-perpetuates the ever increasing bottom line. Executives are getting so rich they no longer care that private administrative costs average 3x government sector counterparts.

IMO, the finger that bleeds the most needs the biggest band-aid, i.e. regulations.

 

[itisme]

NO GOVERNMENT MANDATES OF ANY KIND! THEY LEAD TO UNWANTED (MAN DATES) IF YOU GET MY DRIFT!
Deliverance, Now squeal like a pig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gLN3QoN-q8

Ron Paul: 16 Eye Opening Things You Don’t Know
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Artic...6-Eye-Opening-Things-You-Dont-Know.aspx#page1

 

[ShroomDr]

Then dont drink the water from your faucet, or use the electricity to power your house, because they are both government price controlled!


Or get with reality.


If a Ted Kaszinzki wants to live in an 8x10' shack,i say let him, hell he can even use our roads (just not the postal system!)

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

NO GOVERNMENT MANDATES OF ANY KIND! THEY LEAD TO UNWANTED (MAN DATES) IF YOU GET MY DRIFT!http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Artic...6-Eye-Opening-Things-You-Dont-Know.aspx#page1

Crystal, you're down with the dog whistle.

 

[GP73LPC]

hey, did you guys hear states are trying to make camera's illegal ?

 

[itisme]

Major Voting Fraud at Iowa Caucus Robs Ron Paul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Cx_rnZ4Rs

 

[SacredBreh]

The First and Second biggest rip off in American history......

The First and Second biggest rip off in American history......

We just witnessed the single largest transfer of wealth to the upper class in history. We called it a bail out. 700 Billion we knew about at the time and even our government admits they can't tell you where that money went.

Fed had a partial disclosure of I think 15 Trillion dollar bailout that it sniffs its nose and tells our government and us it will not disclose the recipients.

I call the partial disclosure above a disclosure because it has been indicated on here as an adequate AUDIT. Well for me when the IRS audits me.... they find out everything they want to know. If I submit a tax return, it is a disclosure because I am telling them only the information I want them to know.

Where did the money come from..... well both the Federal Government and Federal Reserve loaned it from you and I and our kids and our grand kids and their grand kids and their grand kids and so on and so forth.

What the hell lets ignore that and revote Obummer back in and pretend he was not one of the two Presidents screaming the sky is falling and trust me we have to do this for your own good. The other President was the out going Bush.

Oh, by the way that is the same Bush that gave the order in I believe October of that year, to assign a full battalion of military to the United States for crowd control.

Which candidates voted against the bail outs, which candidate wants a complete audit of the Federal Reserve and at least a start on limiting their powers?

Hell I am not even smart enough to fathom those kinds of numbers.

Peace

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

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[itisme]

 

[resinryder]

They got cat houses in Vegas where you get charged a lot of money for (tu lips)

Ok I'm calling you out on this one. Prostitution is illegal in Clark county, the county where las Vegas is located. Legal in some counties here but not this one. Now this has me wondering if anything you've posted is correct, lol

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

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Here's how you do it...

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[GP73LPC]

Ok I'm calling you out on this one. Prostitution is illegal in Clark county, the county where las Vegas is located. Legal in some counties here but not this one. Now this has me wondering if anything you've posted is correct, lol

i already gave up on that when he posted bullshit about cameras being made illegal. of course he couldn't back that up...

he does nothing at all to help his argument when he acts this way, in fact he hurts it when he decides not to respond to criticism, ignores the real truth and put the member on ignore.

you never know if he is speaking facts or BULLSHIT !!!!! i quit taking him seriously already

 

[itisme]

Now this has me wondering if anything you've posted is correct, lol

Ok, You worry about cat houses and a vague example that you admit yourself applies to some counties in Vegas.

I'll worry about your freedom and mine, while I defend our one candidate that "HONORS THE CONSTITUTION"

 

[zymos]

Pretty much everything itisme posts is either pulled out of his ass, or requoted shit he doesn't even understand from some other website, salted with a bunch of typos and grammatical errors to make it even more incoherent.

Though it is somewhat entertaining seeing him sputter and froth at the mouth...

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

Pretty much everything DiscoBiscuit posts is either pulled out of his ass, or requoted shit he doesn't even understand from some other website, salted with a bunch of typos and grammatical errors to make it even more incoherent.

Though it is somewhat entertaining seeing him sputter and froth at the mouth...

Hey, now it's just like the GOP primaries.

 

[Rukind]

If we do not vote for ron paul we are idiots.. thats all there is too it. He is the only guy standing up for us. He is the least selfish person up there and I believe he is trying to make this a better place for all of us.

I just dont see how some people cannot vote for the only guy that wants to end the wars, stop ndaa and sopa, allow you to opt of of SS, allow you to use money based off of gold, end the patriot act, END THE WAR ON DRUGS, etc.... Do I need to go on? this guy is standing up for your rights and people are worried about abortion, his religious beliefs, and saying his foreign and economic policies are INSANE.

Honestly, if he were to benefit corporations so much, dont you think the corporations would be supporting him and not the other candidates?

Its time to stop pointing out everything little fucking detail that is wrong about him and see the guy for who he is and what he stands for. There is no other politician up there that has an honest bone in their body.

Lets make some god damn changes.. please? I am only 25 and I would love to see some real freedom sometime in my life and I would really like to see my kids have some sort of decent life as well.

 

[itisme]

Get ready for what the NEOCON REPUBLICANS are begging for!

They don't want RON PAUL in!

VIENNA (AP) — Diplomats on Monday confirmed a report that Iran has begun uranium enrichment at an underground bunker and said the news is particularly worrying because the site is being used to make material that can be upgraded more quickly for use in a nuclear weapon than the nation's main enriched stockpile.
The diplomats said that centrifuges at the Fordo site near Iran's holy city of Qom are churning out uranium enriched to 20 percent. That level is higher than the 3.5 percent being made at Iran's main enrichment plant and can be turned into fissile warhead material faster and with less work.
The move was expected, with Tehran announcing months ago that it would use the Fordo facility for 20 percent production. Iran began to further enrich a small part of its uranium stockpile to nearly 20 percent as of February 2010 at a less-protected experimental site, saying it needs the higher grade material to produce fuel for a Tehran reactor that makes medical radioisotopes for cancer patients.
But with the time and effort reduced between making weapons-grade uranium from the 20-percent level, the start of the Fordo operation increases international fears that Iran is determined to move closer to the ability to make nuclear warheads — despite insistence by the Islamic Republic that it is enriching only to make reactor fuel. Its dismissal of findings by the International Atomic Energy Agency of secret experimental work on a nuclear weapons program also worries the international community.
Iran recently threatened to blockade the Strait of Hormuz, an important transit route for almost one-fifth of the oil traded globally. Tehran also has been angered by the West's efforts to sanction Iran over its nuclear program, including a possible ban on European imports of Iranian oil.
Fordo's location increases concerns.
The facility is a hardened tunnel and is protected by air defense missile batteries and the Revolutionary Guard. The site is located about 20 miles (32 kilometers) north of Qom, the religious nerve center of Iran's ruling system. The semiofficial Mehr news agency quoted Iran's nuclear chief, Fereidoun Abbasi, as saying Sunday that "the enemy doesn't have the ability to damage it."
Built next to a military complex, Fordo was long kept secret and was only acknowledged by Iran after it was identified by Western intelligence agencies in September 2009.
Two diplomats spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because their information was confidential and based on an inspection of Fordo last week by the International Atomic Energy Agency.
They said 348 machines were operating at Fordo in two cascades — the linked up configuration needed to enrich. Two other cascades were nearly assembled but not working, they said. The centrifuges appeared to be the standard old-generation machines in use at the main enrichment site at Natanz and not advanced, more efficient prototype versions.
About 8,000 centrifuges are operating at Natanz, where five years of enrichment have turned out enough material for several nuclear warheads.
The Fordo startup was first reported Sunday by the daily Kaynan, a hardline newspaper close to Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final word on all important matters of state. Abbasi was more circumspect, saying Saturday that his country will "soon" begin enrichment at Fordo.
It was impossible to reconcile the two reports. But the diplomats speculated that they could be a further reflection of divisions within Iran's ruling circles about how upfront the nation should be with nuclear activities that are drawing increasingly severe international penalties beyond four sets of U.N. Security Council sanctions.
Iran — which claims it only seeks nuclear reactors for energy and research — has sharply increased its threats and military posturing against stronger pressures, including U.S. sanctions targeting Iran's Central Bank in attempts to complicate its ability to sell oil.
A senior commander of the Revolutionary Guard force was recently quoted as saying Tehran's leadership has decided to order the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a strategic oil route, if the country's petroleum exports are blocked. Revolutionary Guard ground forces also staged war games in eastern Iran in an apparent display of resolve against U.S. forces just over the border in Afghanistan.
Iranian officials have issued similar threats, but this was the strongest statement yet by a top commander in the security establishment.
"The supreme authorities ... have insisted that if enemies block the export of our oil, we won't allow a drop of oil to pass through the Strait of Hormuz. This is the strategy of the Islamic Republic in countering such threats," Revolutionary Guard deputy commander Ali Ashraf Nouri was quoted as saying by another newspaper, the Khorasan daily.
Adding to Iran-U.S. tensions, Iran's state radio reported Monday that a Tehran court has convicted an American man of working for the CIA and sentenced him to death.
Iran charges that as a former U.S. Marine, Amir Mirzaei Hekmati received special training and served at U.S. military bases in Iraq and Afghanistan before heading to Iran for his alleged intelligence mission. The radio report did not say when the verdict was issued. Under Iranian law, Hekmati, a dual U.S.-Iranian national has 20 days to appeal. His father, a professor at a community college in Flint, Michigan, has said his son is not a CIA spy and was visiting his grandmothers in Iran when he was arrested.
In an interview broadcast Sunday, U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Iran is laying the groundwork for making nuclear weapons someday, but is not yet building a bomb. Panetta reiterated U.S. concerns about a unilateral strike by Israel against Iran's nuclear facilities, saying the action could trigger Iranian retaliation against U.S. forces in the region.
"We have common cause here" with Israel, he said. "And the better approach is for us to work together."
Panetta's remarks on CBS' "Face the Nation" reflect the U.S. administration's long-held view that Iran is not yet committed to building a nuclear arsenal, only to create the industrial and scientific capacity to allow one if its leaders to decide to take that final step.
President Barack Obama approved new sanctions against Iran a week ago, targeting the central bank and its ability to sell petroleum abroad. The U.S. has delayed implementing the sanctions for at least six months, worried about sending the price of oil higher at a time when the global economy is struggling.
The U.S. and Israel have said that all options remain open, including military action, should Iran continue with its enrichment program.