stonedstoner
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and how do you guys know that ron paul is honest? just cause he hasn't changed his mind on any single issue over a million years? sometimes change could be a good thing. he needs to change his racist mindset.
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Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?
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Charles and David Koch might disagree. Gold standard never mitigated greed that spawned gilded age/robber baron proportion. In other words, these are the folks who had no anti-trust, environmental or safety regulations. So long as the opportunity exists, no capitalist takes less than a sky's-the-limit approach. Each corporation's goal is to increase their dividend by every legal means possible.
My long term retirement portfolio seeks to generate more than I'll spend in my lifetime. Can't take it with me but I may leave it to my inheritors.
those with the most toys...
Better.
The fact that they call him Dr. No. He has always voted against anything that violated the constitution (from drug war to seat belts). He knows how invasive the Patriot Act, NDAA, SOPA and Drug War are to our Constitutional rights. He has a proven track record to back it up. Some people remind us he introduced over 400 bills and got nothing passed into law. I state that shows he is against the status quo. Nobody would side with him because he couldn't be bought. Don't you get it? That is what it is all about. You get me in...We get your cronies jobs, during and after you in office. The media is suppressing Ron Paul and if they didn't out right steal votes in Iowa they are trying PERCEPTION CONTROL TECHNIQUES....on CNN, FOX, CBS and more all to suppress the masses. They only bring up Ron Paul to dismiss him. It is very effective until you abuse your power. People are taking note and creating a real REVOLUTION in our country.
A good example....I know you have seen the soldier cut off. CNN knows military protocal but asked him anyway...Then they hide behind miltary protocol. What is the ecuse for that obvious UNPLUG?
Busted! Fox News CPAC Ron Paul Video Deception
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI0YhZnyXQ
You tell me it isn't CBS , CNN , FoX News Censors Ron Paul & Uses PERCEPTION CONTROL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0xWBkKtscM
I literal confession by one media member!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udCFcOFoeY4
You see that room..2/3 of them think the military is their private job vehicle.
Phil Donahue on Ron Paul & Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks7VdvPFrlo&feature=relmfu
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still waiting on a link
or are you just spewing shit with no actual proof ????
who would believe someone who says things and then refuses to back it up? sounds an awful lot to me like you were caught lying...
The Koch brothers may disagree, but they doesnt make them correct.
ANYONE who has played the board game Monopoly will tell you the game loses its fun, intrigue, and flow long before it is completely over. One person gains control of the majority of the capital, and everyone else loses interest.
This disenfranchisement is exactly what is going on in American right now, and the Koch Brothers are the assholes who are trying to goat you into continuing to play the boardgames.
Monopoly money is Fiat money.
Government intervention is the only thing that mitigated the barons. Whether it be breaking the monopolies, or enacting legislation to prevent copper barons from buying judges.
I fail to see the point you are getting to. The barons could buy as much gold and silver as they wish, but you cant eat gold or silver.
You cant print newspapers and control minds with gold and silver (at least not directly).
You cant control shipping and commerce with mostly inert heavy metals, but you can with railroads, and petrochemicals.
How many yachts can you waterski behind?
FWIW There are two debates within the next 24 hours!
SacredBreh
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Zymos-- that was a twisting of what I said. Ron Paul and I have never advocated against the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. To equate Utah's ability to sell alcohol in their state to Alabama's outlawing being black is not even a relevant argument.
By the way, if you live in Utah, if you buy alcohol you can only do it from a government outlet at grossly inflated price or have it with a meal. That is right now!
The single biggest issue with MMJ is the fact that the Fed (namely DEA) have it scheduled as a scheduled 1 narcotic and therefore no medical use. The DEA and other extensions of the Federal government have openly engaged in a war on drugs for over 30 years. This war has been fought in other countries but mainly it has been fought here in America. Guess who is here in America? Yep, you are right, mainly American citizens. Therefore, the war is at least half, and I argue, more than half with American Citizens. A declared war on American Citizens. It has brought in willingly and through coercion the use of our own military, DEA, ATF, State, and local law enforcement officer. A mountain of laws have been written to assist and make it legal for the use of these resources.... an example is using US military and resources against American Citizen non-combatants (at least now they are considered that). New laws have just been put on the books that could easily be spun to make many of you out there fit the category of Terrorists. In this category you would not have access to the Constitution or Bill of Rights guaranteed protections and be held indefinately without trial or legal representation. We have already executed, without judge or jury or even a trumped up military tribunal, a few Americans. What would be the issue of a few more?
I agree the Cannabis issue is not the biggest we face but those who oppose and those who advocate Freedom at a time in history when the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Personal (responsible) Freedoms are being attacked and eroded at a level never seen before in America. There is only one candidate that has the integrity to say and do all he can to protect us from these attacks.... That is Ron Paul! His history and all his careers prove that statement.
Do those of you who are ready to vote for the business as usual candidates, either incumbant, or not..... not see where we are headed.
Peace
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Zymos-- that was a twisting of what I said. Ron Paul and I have never advocated against the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. To equate Utah's ability to sell alcohol in their state to Alabama's outlawing being black is not even a relevant argument.By the way, if you live in Utah, if you buy alcohol you can only do it from a government outlet at grossly inflated price or have it with a meal. That is right now!
The single biggest issue with MMJ is the fact that the Fed (namely DEA) have it scheduled as a scheduled 1 narcotic and therefore no medical use. The DEA and other extensions of the Federal government have openly engaged in a war on drugs for over 30 years. This war has been fought in other countries but mainly it has been fought here in America. Guess who is here in America? Yep, you are right, mainly American citizens. Therefore, the war is at least half, and I argue, more than half with American Citizens. A declared war on American Citizens. It has brought in willingly and through coercion the use of our own military, DEA, ATF, State, and local law enforcement officer. A mountain of laws have been written to assist and make it legal for the use of these resources.... an example is using US military and resources against American Citizen non-combatants (at least now they are considered that). New laws have just been put on the books that could easily be spun to make many of you out there fit the category of Terrorists. In this category you would not have access to the Constitution or Bill of Rights guaranteed protections and be held indefinately without trial or legal representation. We have already executed, without judge or jury or even a trumped up military tribunal, a few Americans. What would be the issue of a few more?
I agree the Cannabis issue is not the biggest we face but those who oppose and those who advocate Freedom at a time in history when the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Personal (responsible) Freedoms are being attacked and eroded at a level never seen before in America. There is only one candidate that has the integrity to say and do all he can to protect us from these attacks.... That is Ron Paul! His history and all his careers prove that statement.
Do those of you who are ready to vote for the business as usual candidates, either incumbant, or not..... not see where we are headed.
Peace
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I also agree that cannabis legalization isn't the most important issue out there. It's actually only a symptom of a larger problem, the perpetuation of the nanny state, and government infringment of personal liberties.
Before I learned about RP, I thought this country was doomed. Now, I believe RP is the only way to keep this from happening.
Before I learned about RP, I thought this country was doomed. Now, I believe RP is the only way to keep this from happening.
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clearly they don't. just reference itisme's response to your definitions to see that's not true. and seriously, it doesn't matter how many facts are brought to the table, a BELIEVER will always believe because he has faith.
not a mind reader. i don't know what he'll try to do. but i do know that to make substantive change you need a super majority. Ron Paul doesn't even have the support of his own party. and it's still congress that makes the laws.
this is disturbing. anyone with a mind not open to new information is not qualified to be president. times have changed. knowledge doubles every few years.
you mean like Obama pissing off his liberal supporters by moving to the center?
and if they want to teach creationism in schools? or just give the job of teaching over to the Mormons? and what if i can't afford to move out of Utah? or Utah decides to band together with other religious Conservative states? - like the good old days down south.
i'll say it again we need science and critical thinking to compete in the 21st century. religion is the death of reason. Ron Paul is a religious conservative. he does NOT believe in evolution for example. this is ridiculous. and on that basis alone i consider him unfit for higher office.
I truly believe that many Americans are afraid to be free, take responsibility. Many are like dogs that lay in their little box kennel with the door wide open because they have a sense of security in their domestication and captivity.
i'm not sure portraying Americans (at least the one's not supporting Ron Paul) as cowards hiding under a chair is helping your cause.
They ALL are liars!!!! WTF!!! I say do not vote for Ron Paul,There I said it. He will NEVER win.Would I like to see him win??? YES!! Put your vote on the other liar who you like that actually may win, and that has lied enough to the point that you actually belive what they say. Sorry to be a negative Nancy here,BUT history has proven this,we have a choice between Asshole, and Douchebag ,when election time comes.Our country is so fucked up right now,it is ridiculous. What did Obama promise????? Now lets see if he lived up to the promises that got him elected??? Answer...NO!! I say Ted Nugent for president!
By the way, if you live in Utah, if you buy alcohol you can only do it from a government outlet at grossly inflated price or have it with a meal. That is right now!
I get alcohol from the same government outlet much cheaper than a restaurant.
Heath and Human Services is charged with scheduling. DEA lacks the medical expertise to classify. DEA is enforcement of whatever Congress directs them to enforce.
As of 2004, Rumsfeld vs Hamdi. And what you speak of is not for non-combatants - it's for enemy combatants. Besides, the president requested to remove the discretion from the Pentagon and give it to the president, the SoD and the SoS. In particular, this president says he won't use this discretion but nobody knows what subsequent presidents will do.
All this came about with the end of civilian prosecutions for non-sanctioned terrorists in 2003. We have an entire demographic of military and commercial industry, lawmakers, judiciary and general electorate who demand military commissions. No president can unilaterally dictate reform of an institutionalized stain.
Nobody complained when white-boy Cheney orchestrated something no president alone could alter. We just hadn't yet realized that military commissions for international terrorists means the same thing for American terrorists.
Obama attempted to command change by prosecuting KSM in NYC. Successful prosecution of KSM in NYC would have provided precedent to close GITMO and end military commissions/enemy combatants and the shit stain that goes with it.
So far, that is THE smack down of Obama's presidency. Half the country, (including the mayor of NYC) said "fuck Obama".
What we ultimately don't get is the opportunity to caudal would-be American terrorists with Miranda rights while simultaneously subjecting internationals to the stain. This natural right may be applied universally or we may all suffer. The argument for natural rights falls apart when we feel we can deprive natural rights from others.
And the "war on" aspect was originally rhetorical when applied to "drugs". As in the war on poverty, war on crime, etc. War is on the element yet we still have victims.
Only if you're an enemy combatant. Terrorists, i.e. not enemy combatants still get Miranda rights.
I know of one who renounced American citizenship and coordinated and or encouraged domestic attacks on innocent Americans.
I could hit the Stop n Rob and take my chances with the wrong clerk. I might not get my natural rights but I might get my due.
I respectfully disagree that a man who considers some as freer than others be a spokesperson for freedom. But don't bang your head, you're free to express your ideas. My difference of opinion doesn't discount my respect for you as an individual.I agree the Cannabis issue is not the biggest we face but those who oppose and those who advocate Freedom at a time in history when the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Personal (responsible) Freedoms are being attacked and eroded at a level never seen before in America. There is only one candidate that has the integrity to say and do all he can to protect us from these attacks.... That is Ron Paul! His history and all his careers prove that statement.
Do those of you who are ready to vote for the business as usual candidates, either incumbant, or not..... not see where we are headed.
Peace
A vote for any candidate isn't necessarily a vote for business as usual. It depends on what they stand for and whether they're capable of commanding change. So far, Obama has failed to command the necessary compromise.
One question. Are you willing to afford Miranda rights to non-sanctioned mankind or just Americans?
Anyone wanna play an 'toking game' tonight with the debate?
Instead of drinking, you take a toke every time they say specified things.
Newt promised to "not go negative", but he reserved his right 'to tell the truth about Mitt Romney'.
I say deep breaths for every attack on a GOP candidate! Shit there is another football game too.
Instead of drinking, you take a toke every time they say specified things.
Newt promised to "not go negative", but he reserved his right 'to tell the truth about Mitt Romney'.
I say deep breaths for every attack on a GOP candidate! Shit there is another football game too.
How nice. Enjoy.
stonedstoner
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amen, brother.
It's ON! Dr Schroom! BET!
I bet RP would be at 65% before the debate tonight if CNN, FOX and the others would stop the dogma and get on policy. There really is something to the Perception Control. Those MK Ultra experiments and decades of computer analysis, they knew I would type this....It is time for America to unplug from the Matrix that is the Industrial Military Complex.
I bet RP would be at 65% before the debate tonight if CNN, FOX and the others would stop the dogma and get on policy. There really is something to the Perception Control. Those MK Ultra experiments and decades of computer analysis, they knew I would type this....It is time for America to unplug from the Matrix that is the Industrial Military Complex.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency
Dollars were held as 59% of the world reserve currency in 1995, they were 61.7% in 2010.
The sky is not falling, no matter how many television Chick Little's say it is.
The currency only falls when you give up on it, Fiat money is only based in YOUR faith in the govt which issued the money.
Are you ready to trade your Dollar for Euros, Pounds, Yen, or Yuan's?
These credit agencies are fucking ludicrous, the entire western world cannot be downgraded when the middle east is in political turmoil and half of SE Asia was flooded. A dry turkey sandwich is always better option than a sand or a shit sandwich.
What you talking about Willis.
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Romney and MMJ Patient
Talk about tuck your tale and run!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwrTVbxcj7c&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Once they take the AG off of the job America will be safer. This site and the industry can explode! I bet every single state has it legal within 2 years. I saw a stat one day where they said there was more MMJ Dispensaries than Starbucks....they didn't say that there was 3 times as many places selling alcohol in the same area! Like caffeine isn't a drug, all hail STARFUCKS
WTF ever!
Faith would render no reason to measure GDP. Austrian economists eschew models and statistics - i.e. faith in ideology. Applied to the macro, one man's ideology is only as good as the shared ideology - or - proof it's application works. Proof has a way of rendering opinions similar enough to recognize what works and what doesn't work as well.
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