Rezdog Chem D bx1

[Indica Jones]

Just my .02.......................Spain would probably be the likely place at this time. Weighing both Pros and Cons. That is for the moment though.......................Governments can change overnight.

 

[ClearBarbedFunk]

Greetings ClearBarbedFunk

Please be advised, that my response shall not be in depth.

Sincerely,
Charles.

thank you Charles, im followin ya now. nice job ya have, hehe.

Excellent question. It's a "broader theory", but very heavily supported by the example that the 'Chem' lines provide. Most indoor specimens support this conclusion; the disparities occur when falling outside the 'threshold reflex range' i.e. conditions that are overall too detrimental for the plant to overcome or too benign to elicit a response and with 'landrace cultivars' cultivated indoors; in this instance one will more likely observe the 'plateau effect', where a range of conditions result in the same quality (level) of product because the specimens are unresponsive to the stressors imposed .

so right off the bat were stressin plants just by growin indoors? makes perfect sense of course, there outta there natural enviorment. i had never seen a difference between stressin a plant and not stressin one, as far as potentcy, but everythings been indoors, never compared a indoor grow to outdoors.

is there any support for plants acclimatin to a indoor enviorment in a few grows? i ask this as it seems that cuts i get from other enviorments, will act up first time through(nanners, male balls early) then they seem to straighten out after a run or two. not every cut, but a high number of um.


thanks for takin the time to line me out, much appreciated
CBF

 

[Rudedewd]

The 'Chems' are the result of the Commercial Cannabis trade of British Columbia and the Pacific Northwest United States during the mid eighties.

At the time (and still), the vast majority of serious commercial indoor gardens utilized Pro-mix and General Hydroponics' solutions.



I'm not trying to piss in your wheaties but how did you make the correlation between weed grown in BC and the PNW with a cut that was started in Massachusetts in 1991? I know that pot that Chem got and started beans from had to come from somewhere but he didn't get that bag from either BC or the PNW so how can you make the connection between the weed that he got and weed bred in a whole different part of the world? Maybe whatever weed grown in BC and the PNW was developed to grow under adverse conditions but I can assure you that it wasn't called chemdog as chemdog wasn't even named until the early 90's and another thing that I am positive about is that Chem did not select the plant for adverse conditions. I happen to live in the town where the original cut was made and I know for a fact that the history of the herb that Chem bought was unknown to him and everybody else. He got a bag mailed to him, it had a few seeds, he popped them and selected the best plant that grew and him and his friends named it chemdog, THAT is the history as far back as it goes, what the genetic makeup of the bag he bought is a mystery, everything else is nothing but supposition and does nothing but to confuse the facts.

 

[ClearBarbedFunk]

Rude bro, the chem aka colorado dog was in crested butte when the sack was sent to chem, i know you know that, thats as far as it goes back. and yeah noone knows where it came from, from that point back.

what charles is sayin he has analyzed a snippit of the chem and its genetic make up or whatever they look at, shows it is derived from the PNW and BC many years ago.

for me as i live here as well, its very easy to believe that weed came outta cali or BC, as there are many runners around here goin to CA and bringin it back here.

CBF

 

[Brad]

yea well i want proof not peoples "word"

 

[ClearBarbedFunk]

yea well i want proof not peoples "word"

well your takin peeps word at present, you believe whats bein said from a group of guys, i never seen any proof that there story is true other then what they have said.

samo samo dont ya think?

CBF

 

[Brad]

yea the dudes who put the clone out there in the first place, their cut, their story, if ya cant beleave that, then who or what can you beleave about the strains history???

 

[Kinderfeld]

I'm finding you can't believe anything about this strain's history and your going to have to give in to just not being able to know I guess. It is of course their story...if only we could find who mailed him a bag a weed...I wonder why the receiver of the bag doesn't have a clue where it came from, or maybe he does and wanted a little more elaborate story Charles have you studied samples from all the chems?

 

[ClearBarbedFunk]

yea the dudes who put the clone out there in the first place, their cut, their story, if ya cant beleave that, then who or what can you beleave about the strains history???

thats it right there, who can ya believe. im not sayin i dont go along with the story, im sayin its just a story, and it could be a huge ruse, made up by some group of growers, hell who really knows.

charles is talkin before it originated in crested butte, the line may very well have been maintained in the PNW/BC, and made its way to CO.

chem and company never had seed stock, just a bag they found seed in that very well could of came from CA. cripes, most of the good weed has came outta CA over the years.

personally i dont think the chem line was bred in CO, as i live here on the western slope, and many old heads around here never even heard of a line called CO dog. damn sure heard of PBud, Redlands, but no dog.

CBF

 

[JJScorpio]

I'm the one that sent the bag with the seeds to Chem. So I guess that makes me the founder of the Chem line.......That is until the dude that gave me the bag comes out of the woodwork, lmao.....

 

[Rudedewd]

Lol, Joe Brand was the dude that sent the bag to Chem after they met at a Dead show. As far as I know he doesn't know the genetic origins of the herb. After many years they touched bases again at OG and met up again. Chem gave Joe some of the original beans that he had left and that is where Chem 4 originated. I know it is possible that chem actually did originate out west somewhere but it would not have been under the chemdog moniker. I would love to know the genetic make up of chemdog but given it can only be traced back to JB everything is just a guess. It is great weed and it is bagseed are about the only things that we know for sure. I wish Joe still posted here or Chem for that matter, they know a hell of alot more about it then I do but unfortunately the history of the weed doesn't go any further back then what they know.

 

[JJ-NYC]

I know those guys got the Dawg bud (as it was known) from some bikers in Crested Butte. It was around once or twice and was never seen again. So who knows where these bikers brought this bud in from. I don't think it was local or other people would have known about it.

 

[SmokeyPufmaster]

JJ and Rudedude have the correct story. This is the one told to me straight from Chemdog mouth. All other embellishment is just that.

 

[LLCoolBud]

Nice report kinderfield. I believe because the line has not been futher worked the high is prolly a bit all over the place which is normal seein as its only the first backcross...I cant beleive the way people react!


Obviously the final product will be more so then 50% dominance so let wait and see but there still plently of other hard hitting strains out there that flower quicker like endless skys and such.

 

[JJScorpio]

JJ and Rudedude have the correct story. This is the one told to me straight from Chemdog mouth. All other embellishment is just that.

Now that Smokey let the truth out, I can say that I gave Chem a bag of the bud from one of the phenos I had. I saved the good phenos for myself for breeding. I have stabalized it and I will be selling the seeds for 10 for 500 dollars. Put in your orders today as this will be a limited release.

 

[Rudedewd]

Lol JJ! Maybe I should dig through my seed collection, I know I've got quite a few dog crosses that I haven't even grown out yet. Actually I'm a bit afraid to try some of them. Summer of 07 I got popped because I was growing too many chemdog ds and my place reeked so I'm a bit cautious about growing out stinky strains (but I'm sure the day will come). I gave a friend of mine a chemdog d s1 bean and he grew it out and cloned it and even with a good size charcoal filter his grow reeked with a half dozen ladies in flower. I hate being conflicted about odor, I love good stinky weed! Thankfully there are many strains that aren't so overpowering but I know if they ever legalize my garden will smell like pepe la puuuu's house of ill repute.

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Now that Smokey let the truth out, I can say that I gave Chem a bag of the bud from one of the phenos I had. I saved the good phenos for myself for breeding. I have stabalized it and I will be selling the seeds for 10 for 500 dollars. Put in your orders today as this will be a limited release.

That sounds far too cheap man, make it $500 a seed or people will think you are a bull$hitter


;-)

 

[LLCoolBud]

That sounds far too cheap man, make it $500 a seed or people will think you are a bull$hitter


;-)

Hahah thats just pricesless lol

 

[REZDOG]

Now that Smokey let the truth out, I can say that I gave Chem a bag of the bud from one of the phenos I had. I saved the good phenos for myself for breeding. I have stabalized it and I will be selling the seeds for 10 for 500 dollars. Put in your orders today as this will be a limited release.

 

[summitoker]

90-95, colorado mountains. All we smoked was what everyone called maple kush. This was the most chemmy funky smoke ever, dry sweet rotten flavor and uncontrollable stench. I never smoked anything like it again till a couple years ago, when i came accross a bag of chem91, damn near the same thing.