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Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread
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barneyfife
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thanks for the report on HS motaco. you had me up untill the words heavey and couchlock yikes not what im looking for at all.
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God I love this discussion even though I don't have a clue about all these strains you guys have tried.
Anyway, even though I have a grow going, I want to get more seeds. I have a pack of Malawi Gold and Durban Poison.
Do you guys have an opinion on the following strains and the descriptions of them. If it would be against forum rules to publicly say, then please PM me
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Colombian Red Haze ($28.00/pk)
Genetics: Neville's Haze x Colombian Red (Punta Roja) AKA: Columbian Red Haze Variety: Mostly sativa (80%) Type: Hybrid Harvest Date: November Flowering Period: 12-14 weeks THC Content: 20% No. of seeds Per Packet: 10 Characteristics: Minty Fresh Sativa Flavour. Colombian Rojo Haze is an excellent sativa hybrid cross between a Neville's Haze mother and a Colombian Red father.Neville's Haze (the mother) is a stong pine flavoured long leafed 75% sativa strain - a hybrid cross of Original Haze with a quarter Northern Lights. The resulting strain being a heavier budder than true Haze strains but with strong Haze cerebral effect. It is named after its renowned creator Neville - one of the pioneers of commercial cannabis seed breeding programmes.For many years Colombia was not only famous for its export of cocaine to the US and the rest of the world, but also for its growing marijuana trade and export. Traffickers were looking for new areas to pick up high quality marijuana after the authorities were catching on quickly in Mexico, using paraquat and other underhand measures to stop growers and trafickers at any cost. Colombia was fortunate to have some of the most popular and most potent landrace strains e.g. Colombian Gold, Columbian Red (or Punta Roja). It is thought that Columbian Gold originated in the highlands of Colombia whilst Colombian Red originated in lower areas. Colombian Red has a brownish-red flair on the edges of the leaves with red highlights bringing attention to its buds.
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Mama Thai ($28.00/pk)
Genetics: Thai Variety: Pure Sativa Type: Pure-bred, Traditional Landrace Harvest Date: November Flowering Period: 11 weeks THC Content: 22% Characteristics: Large, productive, potent pure Sativa. This is one of our most impressive sativas not for yield but for taste and effect. Our breeders have continually selected the most early maturing, and vigorous growing phenotypes from their Thai genetics to help shorten the usually very lengthy Thai sativas flowering period. At the same time they have aimed to maintain the other beneficial characteristics, and we are more than happy with the results. The optimum THC content of this plant lies around 22% and this gives a clear, strong cerebral high. Beware this can sometimes seem a little hallucinogenic in strong doses.
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Swazi Redbeard Seeds($50.00/pk)
Genetics: Swazi Redbeard
Variety: Pure sativa
Type: Pure-bred, True-Breeding
Harvest Date: November
Flowering Period: 12 weeks
THC Content: 8-11%
Characteristics: Red hairs
Renowned for its spectacular red hairs, Swazi is a high yielding and resinous pure sativa, which gives a strong natural high. These seeds come directly from South African breeders living in Swaziland.
This Strain has a strong odour, which has been compared to a "fine cigar" and an "earthy" smoke with a high that is energetic and clear. Buds on this plant can reach the size of an adult's forearm and are typically compact and very sticky.
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Skunk Haze Seeds($50.00/pk)
Genetics: Skunk No. 1 x Original Haze
Variety: Mostly sativa (87.5%)
Type: F1 Hybrid
Harvest Date: November
Flowering Period: 11 weeks
THC Content: 20%-22%
Characteristics: Excellent high and taste
Sacred Seeds created the original Haze in the late 1970s. The Skunk x Haze hybrid, combines the excellent effect and taste of Original Haze with the increased yield & shorter flowering period of Skunk No. 1. It has a fruity, sweet taste with an energetic effect.
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Are these worth adding to my seedbank? And are they growable in my Hydrohut?
Six of the ten Satori in my current grow are going bonkers. Mandala was right about the "vigor" of Satori. I tansplanted the six biggest tonight. They have had zero nutes up to now! All seeds of the 4 strains were put in wet paper towels the same day, sprouting over 4-5 days. The Satoris are easily 2 times bigger than the biggest of the other strains. Hope the big ones are girls
Obli
Day 12 Satori =Blue stakes
Anyway, even though I have a grow going, I want to get more seeds. I have a pack of Malawi Gold and Durban Poison.
Do you guys have an opinion on the following strains and the descriptions of them. If it would be against forum rules to publicly say, then please PM me
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Colombian Red Haze ($28.00/pk)
Genetics: Neville's Haze x Colombian Red (Punta Roja) AKA: Columbian Red Haze Variety: Mostly sativa (80%) Type: Hybrid Harvest Date: November Flowering Period: 12-14 weeks THC Content: 20% No. of seeds Per Packet: 10 Characteristics: Minty Fresh Sativa Flavour. Colombian Rojo Haze is an excellent sativa hybrid cross between a Neville's Haze mother and a Colombian Red father.Neville's Haze (the mother) is a stong pine flavoured long leafed 75% sativa strain - a hybrid cross of Original Haze with a quarter Northern Lights. The resulting strain being a heavier budder than true Haze strains but with strong Haze cerebral effect. It is named after its renowned creator Neville - one of the pioneers of commercial cannabis seed breeding programmes.For many years Colombia was not only famous for its export of cocaine to the US and the rest of the world, but also for its growing marijuana trade and export. Traffickers were looking for new areas to pick up high quality marijuana after the authorities were catching on quickly in Mexico, using paraquat and other underhand measures to stop growers and trafickers at any cost. Colombia was fortunate to have some of the most popular and most potent landrace strains e.g. Colombian Gold, Columbian Red (or Punta Roja). It is thought that Columbian Gold originated in the highlands of Colombia whilst Colombian Red originated in lower areas. Colombian Red has a brownish-red flair on the edges of the leaves with red highlights bringing attention to its buds.
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Mama Thai ($28.00/pk)
Genetics: Thai Variety: Pure Sativa Type: Pure-bred, Traditional Landrace Harvest Date: November Flowering Period: 11 weeks THC Content: 22% Characteristics: Large, productive, potent pure Sativa. This is one of our most impressive sativas not for yield but for taste and effect. Our breeders have continually selected the most early maturing, and vigorous growing phenotypes from their Thai genetics to help shorten the usually very lengthy Thai sativas flowering period. At the same time they have aimed to maintain the other beneficial characteristics, and we are more than happy with the results. The optimum THC content of this plant lies around 22% and this gives a clear, strong cerebral high. Beware this can sometimes seem a little hallucinogenic in strong doses.
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Swazi Redbeard Seeds($50.00/pk)
Genetics: Swazi Redbeard
Variety: Pure sativa
Type: Pure-bred, True-Breeding
Harvest Date: November
Flowering Period: 12 weeks
THC Content: 8-11%
Characteristics: Red hairs
Renowned for its spectacular red hairs, Swazi is a high yielding and resinous pure sativa, which gives a strong natural high. These seeds come directly from South African breeders living in Swaziland.
This Strain has a strong odour, which has been compared to a "fine cigar" and an "earthy" smoke with a high that is energetic and clear. Buds on this plant can reach the size of an adult's forearm and are typically compact and very sticky.
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Skunk Haze Seeds($50.00/pk)
Genetics: Skunk No. 1 x Original Haze
Variety: Mostly sativa (87.5%)
Type: F1 Hybrid
Harvest Date: November
Flowering Period: 11 weeks
THC Content: 20%-22%
Characteristics: Excellent high and taste
Sacred Seeds created the original Haze in the late 1970s. The Skunk x Haze hybrid, combines the excellent effect and taste of Original Haze with the increased yield & shorter flowering period of Skunk No. 1. It has a fruity, sweet taste with an energetic effect.
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Are these worth adding to my seedbank? And are they growable in my Hydrohut?
Six of the ten Satori in my current grow are going bonkers. Mandala was right about the "vigor" of Satori. I tansplanted the six biggest tonight. They have had zero nutes up to now! All seeds of the 4 strains were put in wet paper towels the same day, sprouting over 4-5 days. The Satoris are easily 2 times bigger than the biggest of the other strains. Hope the big ones are girls
Obli
Day 12 Satori =Blue stakes
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African herbman
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Hey Oblidio49, plants looking really good there man.
I have some seeds (name unknown but very decent smoke) that shows crazy vigour.
I planted some of these seeds next to a Durban poison x Skunk#1 that already had it’s first set of leaves, and the seeds popped and overtook the Dp x skunk in no time. Had to top them to try control the height a bit!
Cool to see you got Swazi redbeard in your list, still my favourite smoke to this day.
I’m very interested to see how your Dp and Malawi gold grow goes when you get round to doing it. Just smoked a tester bud of my little Malawi girl…very trippy stuff! So there’s something to look forward too LOL.
Regards,
Ah
I have some seeds (name unknown but very decent smoke) that shows crazy vigour.
I planted some of these seeds next to a Durban poison x Skunk#1 that already had it’s first set of leaves, and the seeds popped and overtook the Dp x skunk in no time. Had to top them to try control the height a bit!
Cool to see you got Swazi redbeard in your list, still my favourite smoke to this day.
I’m very interested to see how your Dp and Malawi gold grow goes when you get round to doing it. Just smoked a tester bud of my little Malawi girl…very trippy stuff! So there’s something to look forward too LOL.
Regards,
Ah
Alfred-cannaria
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Hi all... 
I only have a sativa landrace in my garden, it´s the Black Maconde ( mozambique) Today has begining to flower, smell liketo chocolate and lemon.
Also grew a cross to mozamba*southafrican, 13-14 weeks of flowering...
On a few days i will begin with vietnamese tourist of greenhornet, this strain needs 150 days of flowering time
. Finally i found this seeds out of stock 
Peace and love
I only have a sativa landrace in my garden, it´s the Black Maconde ( mozambique) Today has begining to flower, smell liketo chocolate and lemon.
Also grew a cross to mozamba*southafrican, 13-14 weeks of flowering...
On a few days i will begin with vietnamese tourist of greenhornet, this strain needs 150 days of flowering time
. Finally i found this seeds out of stock Peace and love
Alfred-cannaria
Member
Also i have some Jack Herer outdoor but they aren´t much sativa... 
In the last pics, the first and second are JH, the other is g13hp
In the last pics, the first and second are JH, the other is g13hp
Nice to hear you found that Vietnamese "tourist hemp" -strain Alfred. Im really looking after that one. Are you going to keep diary?
So you like that G13 x HP? I assume it´s sensi´s mr.nice, I found it too boring. I admit that it produce nice high, but it last for 30 min before you starting to tire up... However, it has good medicinal value, I & friends have found that it´s good for pain & menstrual cramps. And one big - for the feeling you have next morning when you wake up, I just cannot get up!!!
So you like that G13 x HP? I assume it´s sensi´s mr.nice, I found it too boring. I admit that it produce nice high, but it last for 30 min before you starting to tire up... However, it has good medicinal value, I & friends have found that it´s good for pain & menstrual cramps. And one big - for the feeling you have next morning when you wake up, I just cannot get up!!!
Alfred-cannaria
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this is the first time that i grow g13hp, but if she is boring i haven´t got problem because i crossed one male with a good pheno of mazar female, in the future i´ll prove this cross. But if g13hp is boring also i have jack herer, mazar, mozambique, dutch dragon, g13bf3 and uzbekistan landrace... heheheheheh, i can´t depend of one strain jijijiji...
and the first question i don´t understood... excuse my english hehehehe
and the first question i don´t understood... excuse my english hehehehe
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Raco said:Growing sativas indoors....
Here are two colombian plants from seed.I started them last spring and kept them in veg since that.Lasted to show sex.I put them under the 600 a few days ago...(one is severely rootbounded and it´s a girl
Hi Raco!!
I am still mystified at how you kept those plants so small since last spring!!!
They look so small. Can you tell us just what you did to keep them so small? From the pics it doesn't appear you did much tying or LST.
What light period did you use to veg them for so long?
What light period are you using to flower?
I also see that one is severely "potbound". Apparently being potbound doesn't hurt these sativas. All of you sativa growers seem to do that a lot--keep plants small by growing in small pots. It's just hard to imagine keeping a plant in such a small pot without harming it. I've always heard cannabis doesn't like being potbound.
Thanks. All of you guys are a real wealth of information. I'm sure the other folks here would agree. We owe ya!!
Obli
I guess I'll have to wait till my next grow to experiment and learn to "get small" .... like we use to do while watching the original Saturday Night Live shows back in the mid 70's
Alfred-cannaria
Member
Hola Raco, ¿qué tal todo?...
Yes, i grew this sativa cross with a 600w, and i got a veri high yield... But the vietnamese is for outdoor, jejeejje !!! 150 !!! days fuufff
Yes, i grew this sativa cross with a 600w, and i got a veri high yield... But the vietnamese is for outdoor, jejeejje !!! 150 !!! days fuufff
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African herbman said:
African Herbman!
Thanks for the compliment!!
So you like that Swazi Redbeard eh? Is it a stinky growing plant? Or does it smell a lot when curing? I know yield is not an important thing with you guys. That said, can you tell me about how big your Swazi redbeards were at harvest and about what sort of yield you got. I'm trying to get a feeling for yield on some of these so I can plan my grow...how many plants I should germ, etc.
Thanks for all the help
Obli
Tag, you're it, Raco!!! 
Sure seems you got some great canna-dates to start it off!
Sure seems you got some great canna-dates to start it off!
Hello Everybody,
I would like to introduce myself with this sweet Sativa pics
Genetik calls Jack Flash:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/uploads/23874/up.jpg
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/uploads/23874/down.jpg
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/uploads/23874/buds.jpg
Greets
I would like to introduce myself with this sweet Sativa pics
Genetik calls Jack Flash:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/uploads/23874/up.jpg
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/uploads/23874/down.jpg
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/uploads/23874/buds.jpg
Greets
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Raco or anyone
While you guys decide who's going to start the thread, let me ask this:
How sensitive would something like Malawi gold be to light changes like the following:
Suppose I started some MG and grew it under a 12000 lumen CFL setup I have. That should be plenty of light to veg it for a while, maybe months if trained and/or topped. The thing is light interruptions. If I put the plants on a 14/10 that should keep it vegging. What happens though if I grow in a room where room lights come on and off AFTER lights out for the plant? Does this "extra" light screw the plant up? Make it herm on me?
In other words, if a plant is clearly in a veg mode, do extraneous lights(room) lights going off and on during the plants 10 hour night screw the plant up?
Thanks
Obli
While you guys decide who's going to start the thread, let me ask this:
How sensitive would something like Malawi gold be to light changes like the following:
Suppose I started some MG and grew it under a 12000 lumen CFL setup I have. That should be plenty of light to veg it for a while, maybe months if trained and/or topped. The thing is light interruptions. If I put the plants on a 14/10 that should keep it vegging. What happens though if I grow in a room where room lights come on and off AFTER lights out for the plant? Does this "extra" light screw the plant up? Make it herm on me?
In other words, if a plant is clearly in a veg mode, do extraneous lights(room) lights going off and on during the plants 10 hour night screw the plant up?
Thanks
Obli
hardhat22
Member
Motoco,I'm only 3,maybe 3-1/2 hours from so I imagine we get some of the same genetics in our bagseed,or at least similar.
I've identified some nice genes,not perfect but very potent,with a few very unique flavors.It's been said here more than once that the better bud from Mexican or South American localities usually isn't exported,usually only the lesser quality.Should I take this to mean that I'm wasting time digging through bagseed for indoor quality genes the way we used to in the old days looking for outdoor quality??
On a side note,about 4 miles back in this thread you guys discussed Columbian.Maaaan,I remember those days.We had access to Columbian well into the 80,s,most of which sucked except for the potency.It was so dry you could almost finish a doob in a couple of tokes.Tasted like jar-cured mink scent glands only harsher.
I've lost contact with all local growers that I used to know but they are still growing some of that old stuff here.Though I'm a little paranoid,I'm thinking about hunting down some of the old strains they grow.Do you think it would be worth it?Or would I be better off just ordeing something from Nirvana??
Peace
I've identified some nice genes,not perfect but very potent,with a few very unique flavors.It's been said here more than once that the better bud from Mexican or South American localities usually isn't exported,usually only the lesser quality.Should I take this to mean that I'm wasting time digging through bagseed for indoor quality genes the way we used to in the old days looking for outdoor quality??
On a side note,about 4 miles back in this thread you guys discussed Columbian.Maaaan,I remember those days.We had access to Columbian well into the 80,s,most of which sucked except for the potency.It was so dry you could almost finish a doob in a couple of tokes.Tasted like jar-cured mink scent glands only harsher.
I've lost contact with all local growers that I used to know but they are still growing some of that old stuff here.Though I'm a little paranoid,I'm thinking about hunting down some of the old strains they grow.Do you think it would be worth it?Or would I be better off just ordeing something from Nirvana??
Peace
hardhat22
Member
I agree whole-heartedly with with you here.But I've done a little thinking about this.motaco said:
People are worried about Losing sativa genetics because South American farmers are starting to buy indica seeds.Maybe farmers stop growing the old strains,or maybe the indica pollen carries in the wind,year after year,changing everything.
But,couldn't this also be happening now?I mean,isn't it possible that the farmers are growing different varieties too close together and there's much cross pollenation going on?Couldn't that account for the seemingly thousands of varieties from the southern hemisphere?
The farthest I have lived from my birth-place is Gulf Shores,which gets genetics from all over the world.Other than that I have lived within 50 miles of here all of my life.It seems I would still be getting roughly the same herb as I used to get years ago.
Only once have I smoked an herb that tasted like some special weed that I remember from years gone by.I almost cried....
Peace
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