Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread

[motaco]

yeah he's definitely what you might call eccentric. they still had marijuana mans travels in oz. he talked to kog too. but it was in really bad grainy quality; and like you said mostly dutch stuff.and it was older videos. kogs video is in much better quality, but quality varies from video to video and how old they are.

I definitely would not cure like kog. lol. he's just an old hippy and alot of them get set in their ways and just do things how they've always done it. I personally prefer outdoor weed over indoor its just hard around here to find quality outdoor. it will be good don't get me wrong but they are smushed and stuff. people have to stuff them in garbage bags or something to get them out the field so it just fucks them up. indoors they only move it to the next room so the buds are pristine and trich laden undisturbed. we really don't see much outdoor of that care. its never carefully handled. but kog was pretty damn rough with his weed.

what I understood of the MM situation was that was slang for good weed being grown in hunter valley or something in the 60s. it was probably at one point one strain, but got the word thrown around until it just became slang. I think KOG claims OMS is MM and they had a thread debating that issue back at OG. But anyway the point of that thread was there were alot of hippies growing different strains for a long time in relatively the same region and were calling their stuff the same name. so what MM you know was based on who you were getting what from.

I don't know how much truth there is to that but anyway that was the jist of the thread back at OG. there used to be a guy called Mullum Madman who grew HUGE sativas. I wish I still had pics saved. I think he got busted but anyway it was his thread debating the issue. for a brief period in about 98-99 I think OMS or MM or whatever was a big deal and alot of people were trying to get seeds. was a lil fad until people realized it wasn't too good indoor I guess.

 

[Dalaihempy]

hiya motaco i will try to explane a little so you and others get some understanding of MM.

Mullumbimbi is an erea wich is in the shire of byron bay as is nimbin and a few other towns like mainarm the hunter valley is a lot further south from them i think about 6 hours or 7 hours drive south.

I havent gone to most towns only been to byron bay my self but know people who spent time liveing in mullumbimbi and mainarm and other ereas around there was big for hippies and surfers still is .

I got into a few heated arguments with people over this topic of MM one guy was preservationdude ( RIP ) and i try to stay away from this topic and others now days as most dont whant to belive the info that i know and from others that have stated it in the past on the boards one was shantibaba who infact was 1 of the MM breeders and was the first line shanti broke his teeth on so to speek stated by him in a post at cw in his forum.

Heres one of the old posts in shantis forum were Mullumbimbiman was posting and shanti was also replieing.

Shanti

To answer a bit about Mullumbimby Madness, well that was one of my strains that I worked on in the late 70s and early 80s when I lived in a small village called Main Arm, in between Byron Bay and Kyogle/Lizmore.There was a few legends helping out altogether and we hit something incredible.I still have that as one of the seed stocks that we grow for personal use.It basically was a 3/4 sativa, which is a huge tree and perfect to grow in that sub tropical climate of NSW north out doors.To do this strain inside you need height!!"


Mullumbimbi man was also a member of CW i rember him well nice guy to i rember also some one put his seeds of wat he call MM for sale and was pulled becouse of hermie probs may of been gypsy infact but not 100% was a long time ago but do rember before he left online he sed it wasnt the real deal MM just one more unknow sat being called MM as it was grown close to the erea of were the real MM was created.


Thats why MM from people will very in quolity if you find the real MM trust me it will be like smokeing the best Neviles haze plant it will blow your socks off.



The first time i smoket the real MM i smoket a small thin joint of it my self i snuck off from my cusens 21st party and walket down to a set of shops and smoket it in a door way of a closed dive shop i was so high i could not move i was lost i was tripping unable to get my legs to work bent like a bannana as we say here lol , Not sure how many hours later 2 or 3 ( felt like days ) my cussen found me a nd helpet me back to the party i was like i was smokeing opium in the opium dens in a western movie trust me i was not a light waght smoker was smokeing all the good sativas back then to yet this mj was bull shit strong and a true one hit smoke.

I can still rember the look of the dry and cured flower and rember how bent i was lol.

 

[motaco]

thats cool I didn't know shanti had worked it. thats a nice story. he should re-release it.

I do remember the whole hermi MM debacle not being called real deal. and like you said there were some heated arguments over it.

well thanks for posting that. I just vaguely remember the MM thread at OG.

one of few pics I have saved. I think this was the one that went hermi.

 

[Guest]

Wow, never knew Shanti had created the MM. Think I'll PM him and beg him to do a limited release, even in hybrid form.

 

[Ganico]

I don't think shanti "created" it, just worked the line. Similar to how different people worked "Haze" in the states, I'm assuming.
That's at least how I interpreted it anyway. I do hope someone releases this strain though


With the rebirth of sativas available from commercial vendors, folks in the south can have access to better sativas, so I'm hoping for a new southern class of strains to start popping up in the next few years.

 

[Dalaihempy]

I don't think shanti "created" it, just worked the line. Similar to how different people worked "Haze" in the states, I'm assuming.
That's at least how I interpreted it anyway. I do hope someone releases this strain thoughQUOTE]

Hi all shanti didnt creat it alone he was one of the few that worket on the line that created it and it was a project by a few my point in posting here was to explane to people basicly the facts relating to the real mm becouse there seams to be an intrest in it and some seam to think its easy to get hold of it but the truth is it is in the hands of few people.

My advice if those that want to grow something simila would be best looking for neviles haze.

 

[Baphomet]

Pure Landrace Strains Still Available

Pure Landrace Strains Still Available

If anybody's been chasing the following, they're still available at
http://www.growshopalien.com/onlineshop - I know because mine arrived today

World Of Seeds Southafrican Kwazulu
World Of Seeds Kilimanjaro
World Of Seeds Wild Thailand

(Sorry Alfred - no Ethiopian )

Thanks to BH fror supplying the info in the African thread...
Cheers.

 

[Herbalistic]

I hope to see some pics of those world of seeds strains that you are starting Baphomet. I dont know much of them, but if I remember correct, people who have growed their strains say they are not as authentic than they let you understand... Well, I hope you get good results with them

I do also think that shanti should release that MM strain, so it could be preserved and distributed growers worldwide..

Here´s couple girls that I am going to flower after couple weeks, they are sativa dominant hybrids, check them out:

First, the powerplant:



And crazy reeking & potent pheno of B-52 that takes bout 100 days to mature:




And a sweetpurple:



This sweetpurple really likes to stretch..

And of course I had to take pics of this sample nug of OH x SK#1, she is going down in two weeks. I must say I really were more successful this time compared to last grow, this herb is delicious, eventhought she is fullblown hermie at the moment:


But because it´s already hermied, I am going to master my girdling skill and going to girdle it tomorrow, so well see what is the endproduct very soon. I was also thinking about sweat curing it like the NH, I love the taste & aroma & the potency the NH received from that experiment!!!

 

[bonecarver_OG]

if its allready hermied creating further stress could trigger it to hermie even more but im sure its going to be good smoke anyway

if not screen it! should give great results

anyway man, looks promising, u know it

peace

 

[Herbalistic]

Yeah Bone, I did thínk that also and came to conclusion not to girdle it. Im going to girdle that NH plant, but we have to wait couple months more to see the results..

I think I still do the sweat cure thang

And Bone, could you tell me some tips planting seeds in coco? Is it good medium to plant seeds? I have had exellent results before, but now I have fucked up too many interesting seeds and im afraid to use it anymore. I just received some US "elite" genetics and crosses that one kind soul did make & share, but I think I plant them & couple Deep Chunk´s in soil and then transplant in coco to make sure these beans get up!!!

 

[BeAn]

Forgive my ignorance, but is a sweat cure when you stick the nug under a hobo's arm for a week or two...or do ya just leave it in a plastic baggie to 'sweat'??

Wicked pics everyone by the way, this is my favourite thread on IC....makes me wanna move a couple of thousand miles closer to the equator..

Much love.

 

[Herbalistic]

Bean: Check couple pages back my experment with Neville´s Haze.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

herbalistic - mate do the sweat cure ! and post pics

indeed i find also coco sometimes to get dry too quick to be a easy medium for seeds - thats why i only use rockwool plugs to start the seeds and clones - and then i transplant to coco when there is roots sticking out it makes it also possible to start many more seeds in a small confined space.

good luck with the DC - but honestly - my tip on the DC is to grow it in SOIL - its a soil plant, its been grown for ever in soil, also it is a dry highland indica - so in coco the frequent watering gives completelly messed up results. this far i think im the only one foolish enough to have tried DC in coco - and i definetly say its better of in a good soil mix with restrictive water.

if u want any tips of how to grow DC - there is to my knowledge only one active expert on the case, on this board (besides TOM HILL OBVIOUSLY hehe) and its RACO

all the best to all

 

[Herbalistic]

Thank you for the tip´s bone, but as you may have noticed, im a slowlearner and I got VERY hardy head, so I am first going to try DC in coco.

I know you have mentioned me several times that you shouldnt let coco dry, but I almost always let it dry thoroughly and have very nice results, so I dont know which is better, because when I keep it constantly wet, I notice signs of overwatering..

Anyways, thanks for the tip´s, I must try DC in coco/perlite mix.

BTW: Remember when you tipped me that I dont need any perlite with coco, but just coco? The harvested NH & the current OH x SK#1 were/is growing in straight coco with good results, so thank you!!! Only thing I have noticed is that the coco I use, which is Bio Nova -cococoir, should be flushed good & thoroughly before planting. If not doing so, you are going to notice severe ph-problems very, very soon...

Adios Amigo

 

[motaco]

yeah I'm gonna have to agree with Bone. I never worked with coco and that stuff I don't know. But I agree raco is one of few people I'd ask for advice on it with.

his sure came out alot nicer looking than mine. Great weed but that fucking strain hated me. never had a strain hate me so much in my life.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

herbalistic - constantly wet doesnt sound good to me either but getting complettelly dry - means the salts in the coco concentrate. i try to avoid that. i can see in ur gallery there is signs of salt build up in some of the pics im sure u would get rid of that with a more suitable watering schedule, not drowning them - just watering a slight bit more. your plants look GREAT in general anyway! so dont complicate it if u can help it

motaco - as far as i have been told - it seems DC is very picky and doesnt perform for all my dc plant looked sh*t hehehe and i plan to plant her in soil next time - and give it a strict watering schedule, mimiking its original habitat.

well, back to the real subject; sativas, the oaxacan nice pheno is a really nice smoke, the high is fairly celebral but mostly very relaxing and reminds me quite a bit of the smoke down there. still im sure there is better phenos out there so i didnt reveg or clone it.

next sativas i will plant (this winter) will be to clean out the african sativa crosses and landraces i got from LMN - there is quite a high risk of hermies in some of the seeds, so i want to get rid of them once and for all - and find the moms i want. this far the hermie rate has been around 50% - and that was early hermies so its useless plants.

i GOT to point out the phenos that ARE NOT hermie - are GREAT! i guess it might just be a inbreeding issue. with regressive genetics in the bad examples.

peace all

 

[Guest]

I really am enjoying this dialog that you guys are having. I never had a clue that all these exotic strains existed.

I have my Hydrohut grow tent all ready to go. I need to get another blower to supply fresh air. The temps here are 90+ and it is near impossible to keep temps in line. No A/C for me

Keep up this discussion. It is VERY informative!!

Obli

 

[Baphomet]

Just dropped 4 of my Kilimanjaro seeds onto wet paper towels.
Fingers crossed for a poppin' weekend!

 

[oil beef hooked]

Cinnamon Grow

Cinnamon Grow

Hi Everyone. Great thread, thanks to all who have taken the time to share their knowledge with us. Thought you would like to see some shots of my last Sativa grow.

Regards oil beef hooked.

 

[Herbalistic]

Óla U.S.T

I thought I would share these pics of OH x SK#1 with you guys/gals (at least with you medjool She is really ripe, but is still pushing new hairs, but I am going to harvest her tomorrow...






The smell is awesome, with tones of "spicy" haze, but there is some fruitiness also in the mix. In fact, it´s so complex that it distantly reminds me of catpiss, but in the good way. I mean the "catpiss" odor isnt that strong and it leaves under spice&fruit....

I didnt get compact buds this time and they seem to be little airy, but WTF, this monsterbaby is going down, so Herbalistic and girlfriend could enjoy of the fruits of hard work <-yeah right!!!