Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread

[PazVerdeRadical]

mad scientist, hola
yep, been 4 months already vegging outside on 12/12 and no flowering yet. but as herbalistic points out,
many colombian sativas do that. i have read how the pure high altitude red-points and corintians should veg on 12/12 for about
4 months too, to flower for another 4.

crippled, did not you post those pics in the spanish forums asking if those plants looked like colombians?
they sort of do. very nice plants you have, what do they smell like?

peace!

 

[Herbalistic]

Óla!!!

Here´s some OH x SK#1 candy from the closet:







But it isnt all just sunshine, my new Neville´s Haze has taken some pollen is slighty pollinated. Last times the OH x SK#1 has only produced almost sterile pollen and there has been couple white seeds inside the buds, but none other plant has been pollinated.. Will see how this affects in the yield.. It is now more complicated to pollinate NH with the purp´s pollen, well see, but I definitely let this baby go still some weeks!

 

[bonecarver_OG]

herbalistic - looks awesome

peace!

 

[Mad Scientist]

So the that plant didnt survive Mad Scientist, or did it receive another attact of caterpillar? I think you really should investigate the potential customers in Africa

Hehehe sure will Herbalistic, sure will. A visit to Senegal, Mauretania, Gabon and Cabo Verde islands is already planned for October. :wink:

Stunning plant in the pics you posted man. I'm wondering if the Neville's wasn't selfed. I grew Neville's indoors too a while ago and I found some bananas in late flower. Wasn't too severe though, I could easiliy pinch out the bananas and enjoy a good smoke after all.


@Paz: Madre mia I might be in for trouble with the Ecuadorians then, should they have a similar growth pattern. Ah well, for a grow on the side it can be only educational. I'm not having high hopes for this season since I'm away from home most of the time. They'll have to manage by themselves. Thanks for clearing that up though!

Edit: Crippled Crow, smcg or not, that's one beautiful species!

 

[Purplestuffed]

Great thread, is it good or bad to start flowering a sativa at 7+ feet????? She's been basking in the sol` since February.

 

[Purplestuffed]

Vague question: How much height do i need if i flower some clones from my sexy sativa from the first shoots of roots?????

 

[jonnygotah]

do you kow what region? that is one frosty mexi!! I didn't know mexicans could sugar up that much... nic

Some more shots of some regional mexican sativa.

 

[motaco]

@ johnny. actually mexicans are pretty famous for trich coverage. in general they are viewed as being more resinous than alot of other regional marijuana. I often wondered how they got such a bad wrap. I guess just from the mexi brick people smoke and act like it should be as good as indoor afghani.

@gronhh. that nug is gorgeous man. making me tear up over here.

@ british hempire. good luck with the durbans. you might want to plant the other 5 too if you got them though. durban poison (assuming its dutch stock and not straight out of africa) does a quick main cola as you probably know. so it fares pretty good direct from 12/12. but it also has some short phenos that really aren't going to yield you much. but you should have some decent plants too. durban is do-able straight from seed.

when your done let us know how much she yielded. I trust you but I don't trust alot of people on these boards about yield. I'm not sure if they lie for pride or are just ignorant without a digi; but I can't tell you how many times I've seen posters have a pic of a 2ft SOG airy sativa hybrid and be talking about it yielded an ounce. its like yeah maybe before you dried it.

@purple stuffed. that question is a little too vague to answer. how much they stretch depends on alot of things, mostly root space and the genetics your using. and a 7ft sativa is NO problem. it means your going to have 14-20 ft of kind bud in your yard though so that might be a problem. lol. good luck.

@ african herbsman. hello friend and welcome to the thread. really glad you are here we really don't have hardly any local african sativa growers here and its really nice to have another.

@ Herbalistic on 12/12 from seed. if you've never done it you really should. permitting you have the space and time- and mainly- enough seeds. you don't wanna do it on something you paid ten bucks a seed for, but if its bagseed or homemade go for it bro.

In fact if your an indoor sativa grower at some point its something your going to have to master. and it takes a lil time to get it perfect. So many strains grow so tall they have to be flowered from seed. you can get some really nice results though. man I've had killer looking plants of oaxaca, haze, hawaiians, etc. flowered straight from seed. ounce + plants.

The problem comes when you are growing dutched out plants and alot of them don't yield for shit. seriously alot of them yield 1-3 grams. we call them one blunt wonders. and alot of others will be higher yields but still unacceptable. unacceptable yield is a perception so it varies from person to person but in general if your not a new grower you probably won't be happy with alot of the yields. some might yield great, but most won't.

 

[African herbman]

Thanks for the kind words motaco. I’m in the process of setting up my indoor grow at the moment, I got some seeds from some really trippy and powerfully rooibaardt (you may know it as being called “Swazi red”) I smoked a while back which I’ll be growing and maybe some of my feminized DP x Skunk#1 girls I made. I’ll be posting pics as soon as all is up and running.
Regards.

 

[Farmer John]

Tom Hills Haze at 60 days

Tom Hills Haze at 60 days

Thought I'd drop a pic here, peace all!

12/12 from seed

 

[SuperStoned]

Couple of pic's of one of my Durbanxskunk plants. I have had to harvest early at 8 week due to humidity/mold problems but its stil nice smoke.

 

[Guest]

@ british hempire. good luck with the durbans. you might want to plant the other 5 too if you got them though. durban poison (assuming its dutch stock and not straight out of africa) does a quick main cola as you probably know. so it fares pretty good direct from 12/12. but it also has some short phenos that really aren't going to yield you much. but you should have some decent plants too. durban is do-able straight from seed.

It's the African Seeds Durban, so its the pure version. 3 out of 5 sprouted so I might start the other 5, although I'm tempted to start some Malawi Gold instead.

I recently did a Nirvana Swazi 12/12 from seed and she turned out really nice. She was only in a 2 litre pot of soil, this was iin order to keep her height down but she didn't stretch much at all.

 

[Herbalistic]

Yeah Motaco, I have been thinking doing one crop from seeds 12/12, but I am currently running big & longer vegged plants. If I do it I would do some kind of SOG type of thing and it´s not possible currently,because of the bigger plants and not enough space!!

Only thing that im worried is that they make bigger problems considering the yield etc. than plants that have received good vegtime. I mean that every little stress I cause to them is going to delay the flowering, which will easily result with "overripe" trichomes. I had this same problem when mites did terrorise my flowering closet. I had to flower plants overtime, so that the plants did yield even little.. However, I have pleasant experiences about overflowered plants and little tricks you could try with em. I let my overripe Power Plant dry out under hps. The result was a rush of new trichomes and golden color.

However, I dont wanna depend the whole crop behind this. We are definitely going to see this kind of grow in near future!

BH: Can I ask you how many plants do you flower 12/12 British Hempire (from seed), under your 250 W? Those Durban are going to be interesting grow. It´s nice to see how different they look from the Dutch one´s & African Herbsman one!

FJ: I love that Haze plant!!! How is the smell? I really think you are wrong person to ask this about, because of the fact, that your plants look very healthy & vigorous every time you post pic´s from them! But:

How do you feel about the stress affected delayed flowering (from seed 12/12)?

SuperStoned: How long is the floweringtime of your Durban x Skunk(no.?) usually. Which breeders it is? Maybe cultivators choice...??? The reason I asked is because I germed and planted this one Saudi Arabian x Durbanskunk seed I had. It has been in coco for 8 days now and hasnt still rised.. Well, I hope the best!

 

[SuperStoned]

Its sams/cultivators choice durbanx skunk1. This is the first one i pulled 8 weeks exactly i think i would have let it go ranother week. I plan to harvest the next one in a few days.
Hope that saudi arabian x durbanskunk shows up that sounds very interesting!

 

[jonnygotah]

mmmmm..... I love a long dence sativa spear (donkey dick). mexicans seem to be one of the dencer sat plants. I grow a durban from afrcan seeds stock bakc in 2000. It was the the most vigrous growth I had ever seen. ofcour e I had to pull them because of security issues shortly after they began flowering!!

can a mexican compete in potatcy/growth/ yeild of a wild african durban? unhybridized ofcourse

 

[Herbalistic]

Here are better/wiser people to answer your question Johny Gotah, but I would say authentic Mexican sativa strains really can compete with authentic Durban, or even be better, depending of the people that compare them and their preferences...

First of all Super Stoned, welcome to ICmag!!! I really do wait that SA x DS to show up!!
EDIT: Aah, I just noticed what reads under your name

 

[muddy waters]

BH how long did your nirvana swazi take on 12/12? I have two swaziland females that surfaced on 4/21 that have just starting to show flower clusters for a few days now... something like 80-85 days to actually start budding on 11.5/12.5 from the start... i have no idea how long they're going to need but one is more columnar with limited branching like yours (except i snapped it over and mine's a bit smaller in about 1.25 liters of substrate only) and the other one has branched like crazy with some lower shoots catching up with the main growth tip for the menorah look. i'll take some shots soon.

 

[Guest]

Herbalistic, it varies ghreatly how many plants I hvae under the 250w, depends on whether they are clones or from seeds, always have a mix of plants in there. The Swazi was my first go at 12/12 from seed and I have also successully grown some NLX 12/12 from seed. I can fit 15 plants the size of the Swazi under my 250w, yield can be interesting this way, 10-15g per plant (sometimes less! lol) so if I had 15 at once all on 12/12 from seed I should be able to pull a nice harvest. One day I will try that.

Muddy, that Swazi took exactly 90 days, seed to harvest, thats faster than I would expect so I reckon she is probably a Swazi x Skunk cross rather than pure Swazi, but she tasted the way Swazis have been described to me - nutty, earthy, licourice, that kind of flavour.

 

[Hombredebarro]

Hello my friends!

BH: here are my Swazies, the first its a revegeted 14/10 plant (to left in the pic)

the others are clones of the same mother.

Respect HdB

 

[Guest]

Looking Nice HdB, before they began flowering, mine looked very indica, so I'm sure they are hybridised, I have some pure Swazi seeds so i will be able to try the real thing myself soon.