reversed males

[need4weed]

Does anyone know the outcome from seeds produced by male plants that throw pistils.

I have a male sativa that i treated pretty bad and it started to produce pistils, i have some seeds from this an am wondering if it will produce male only seeds.......like opposite to feminised

 

[MJPassion]

There's a thread discussing this very subject in the Breeders Labratory.

 

[Dutch Quality]

I had a male with pistils too, but is never set seed. I'm curious about the outcome

 

[Mustafunk]

No, using any intersex parent will rather produce mostly intersex offspring.

Males producing pistils are intersex plants, not "reversed" males. Did you mean reversing a male into a female?

 

[igrowone]

there is quite some history to the topic
likely source(?) - DJ Short and the self fertile male
which i recall as being a male that can bear seeds
kind of a slippery topic

 

[iTsTimeNow]

consider the possibility that your "male" was female all along.

 

[jack hairy]

ive actually recently let a few males go in rough environments and they will throw some pistils.
taking pollen and trying to cross them left me with two viable seeds.
from the seeds both were females, i thought there was 1 and one but it was just real slow to show.
these plants were both very nice, and no hermy traits to be seen in them.

i think this is a very good thing to do for judging males, because you will get much more resin development and get a better idea of the qualities the male will put out.

i am trying it again with a different male, and it went heavily female and has lots of wonderful resin and more seeds than previous attempts. same male cut in better environment has (not as cold) has no pistils on it this time yet. interesting how sensitive this cut is and how big of a difference it makes.

are these really males, or females, i dont know.
if it walks like a duck...
they do the job of a male for me.
when i get to grow out more of these type of seeds and find males i will be more assured, but especially if you have only a male of a special strain, it is a good way to repopulate and find females without outcrossing the strain to preserve it. better than letting it go extinct like i see quite often when people pop old rare stuff and dont get a female.

 

[WelderDan]

I had a male Butterscotch Hawaiian that suddenly started throwing pistils. It was weird. It showed male first, and was a prolific pollen producer, but it suddenly started throwing pistils, then started growing elongated nodes with tiny little buds. It looked like Dr. Grinspoon. It had trichomes, but if you smoked it, it tasted like a crappy male plant.

I used its pollen on several different females and got some really nice offspring. No Hermies on any of its progeny. I think I still have some of that pollen in the freezer.

 

[MJPassion]

Butterscotch Hawaiian was a wonderful bed time strain...

Males that revert female are nothing more than confused (hermi) females.
Their masculinity appears differently, varying from a nanner or two to full blown male in appearance with just a couple calyxes.

Like, typically, begets like. With few exceptions.

 

[igrowone]

some plants can be tough to categorize
i had this jock horror male, at least it looked male
no pistils and throwing out plenty of flowers
at the time i was concerned about pollen all over the place, so built an isolation chamber
cut off the flowering tops and into water, kept the plant just in case had trouble collecting any pollen
which i did, for whatever reason the flowers gave up no pollen at all
and the 'male' started throwing pistils, and only pistils, would not give any more male flowers
there was no structure, the pistils didn't form any kind of bud structure

 

[jack hairy]

welderdan, did you get any males out of the progeny from that butterscotch hawaiian?

some people can say this or that, but if we dont really know, then we dont know.
if like begets like, than why didnt either female completely switch sex in the middle of flowering, or even at the end, and become a hermy mess?
its hard to argue with good results though.
if i saw any male stuff on the two females, i might think otherwise.


anyone else have any actual experience with growing seeds produced from a "male" or "males"?

 

[WelderDan]

welderdan, did you get any males out of the progeny from that butterscotch hawaiian?

some people can say this or that, but if we dont really know, then we dont know.
if like begets like, than why didnt either female completely switch sex in the middle of flowering, or even at the end, and become a hermy mess?
its hard to argue with good results though.
if i saw any male stuff on the two females, i might think otherwise.


anyone else have any actual experience with growing seeds produced from a "male" or "males"?

No I didn't. All the progeny was female and none showed intersex traits. And I hit several different strains with that pollen.