Reverse Sexing

[Guest]

Reverse Sexing

I would like to hear from members out there that have made all female seeds, by reverse sexing. I've been following this thread over at CW and it looks good, but i hate to mix chemicals. "How To Reverse Sex Using Silver Thiosulfate Solution " Sorry, I forgot the link, i'll post it later on. I would like to hear other ways of reverse sexing. I'm not talking about hemi's either, they only product hemi's. Someone must know how the big seed company's make thier line.
Thanks

 

[Hippo]

Soma doesn't use chems, maybe lookup his method, easy n simple although u gotta have plant that throws out the odd banana near the end of the cycle, however this isnt always viable pollen.
Nevermind lookin it up, here it is

originaly from high times july 2003 by SOMA


Creating feminized seeds is an art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have use gibberellic acid, light stress, ph stress, and fertilizer stress to force my plants to make seeds. All these methods are harsh on the plants, and some like the gibbrellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds.

Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, other than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher PH, some like a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like a lot less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can’t treat every plant the same way.

It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown strains for a decade and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.



I named this new method “Rodelization” after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plant in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male “bananas”. A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built in safety factor so in case of sever conditions, the plant can make sure that the species is furthered.

To me a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop or at least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emerging devices out. I call them “Emergency Devices” because they emerge at times of stress.

In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plant 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one to two months and still remain potent.

For the second phase you need to already have a crop that’s already 2 ½ weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bag of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut down all the fans in the grow room. Then take a very fine paint brush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with ten different kinds in the same room with great success.

I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time(two crops), but is completely organic and lets you have great quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you’re one of those growers that has never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.

You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross pollinating. The older females with the bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, un-pollinated females when they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later you will have ripe 100% female seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.

As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from THSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: “Drop seeds not bombs”.

have fun
Hippo

 

[Guest]

Thanks Hippo, i knew it was some wheres. Glad to see there are ways with out chemicals. Just got a Trainwreck Sativa clone and want to try selfing it.
Thanks

 

[Guest]

SC selfed beans

SC selfed beans

hey BG, have a clone only strawberry cough S2 beans and wantin to keep seed from them myself.

been askin Qs on selfin myself, and really cant get much feedback. Im favorin rodelization, but some plants may never produce bananas. also wondered if anyone has done continued selfin of a plant?

since the bananas would be the plants reaction to not receivin pollination and its extintion factor kickin in, would seem that a male would appear at some point.

selfin seems like clones in seed form, wouldnt they be exact dups of the mom?

come on guys i know theres growers out there that have significant exp with selfin

pleasure
CBF

 

[Guest]

From what i've "heard" is that selfing is suppose to be the same as clones. Some how the male pollen carrys doesn't have the male genes. This gives the all female seeds, then all the same genes are past through the pollen to the female to duplicate the same plant. This is what i heard, i'm going to check Marijuana Botany book and see if it says anything about this method. I've got the book, just very hard to read, very dry. Awsome book thought and full of great information. But, your right. Someone else out heard has some info to share. wish they would post.
later

 

[Guest]

so what genes are in a selfed plant i mean can you really get an exzact replica?

 

[phillykid]

they probably won't be an exact replica. If a trait follows mendalien genetics you have a dominant and reccessive. let's say you have a trait T for tall and it's dominant over t for small (notice the difference T and t)

if the plant was homozygous dom for this trait it'd be TT all the offspring will also be TT cause it's the only allele in the pool
same thing if the plant is homozygous rec tt, all offspring would be tt

but if the plant was Tt. than you'd have 25%TT. 25%tt, 50%Tt from the punnett square.

Each trait that follows mendalien genetics would follow this, then there are traits that don't follow mendals rule, things get more complicated after that. The only way to get a genetic duplicate is cloning, selfing is still sexual propagation and will yield difference. Cloning is asexual.
Peace
PK

 

[zeppelindood]

ok this information will be put to use here in the basement... thanks

 

[Hippo]

Rezdog grew out some selfed g13 (i think g13), it was selfed using that product "exe".
apparently the resulting beans hermied to hell so i would only go the route Soma uses if i was to want to try this.
The Rezdog selfed g13 grow is still up at OG i think.
Hippo