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Researched..BUT NEED HELP.....BUGS only 3 hours old!!!!!

dank.frank

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Symphilids
Small pests that are tan to white colored and look like centipedes. They are very deadly to the plants, because they burrow down into the roots and damage them by feeding of them. Your plants leaves will begin to die off. They are found mostly in soil composites that have not been cleaned, like soil that has additives in them such as animal manure.
(I know it will smell funny but sterilizing the soil in the oven for 30 min can kill any pests in the soil, heat to 350 for 30 min.) They are easy to tell if you have them, because they come to the top soil when your plant is being watered, if you find you do have them, use Fungus Gnat Killer (“B.T." a non chemical,biological control) in the powdered form. One application should kill it, just to be safe repeat every 7 days to kill off the larvae. Tobacco juice kills them as well! And nematodes.

What you may need to know: constant veg, so not a flowering prob.



NOW...this is what I think....help me out here:

- the soil (MGO) :spank: has fertilizer derived from chicken manure
- I just watered today

I need to know this:

1. can these things be seen by the naked eye, if so do they look like the pic in the infirmary...or is that magnified????

2. do they decide to start crawling up the main steam and making their way through out the bush???

BECAUSE IF THEY CAN/DO...then this is my problem...if not, I'm gonna need more help

WHAT I SEE: small, thin greyish/blackish moving lines...kinda a larve looking thing....but very, very tiny. The planters are white, so it was an easy spot, as they are on the rim too. Barely visible with the eye....at first I thought I was just imagining....but after watching closely , I could see the little bastards moving. :nono: ...and they are moving in numbers.....

It is one against many and

dank.Frank
 

MynameStitch

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Symplids do not crawl on the plant, they live in the soil....
Do you have a picture of these bugs?

WHat damage is it doing to your plants?
Sounds like that is not symplids, possibly aphids or fungus gnat larva or something else....
Is there any bugs that are flying?
If they come on the rim of the pot after a water, it's a kind of aphid, I had this problem with my first grow.

Get some mosqutio dunks, also known as BT and use 1/2 dunk to a gallon of water and them bastards should die.
It's not a kind of spider mite, but a different kind, it's in the aphid family. If that is what it is.....

Do they come out after watering?
 

dank.frank

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here is the little bugger..

here is the little bugger..

Today, center stage in the spot-light, we have....bug. You can see another one to the lower left on the side of the stalk.





the plant has been in the same 5.5L pot for about a month, it has been watered about every 3rd day, consistently, with out ever being limpy from too much. I mixed new nutes today into a gallon of "natural spring water" I had in the garage. (Nutes = 15mL PBP G, 5mL LiquidKarma, 5mL Hydrogaurd, .5mL Superthrive) Gave the plant roughly 1/5 a gallon...just what it needed, and checked on it like a hour later, ahhh. Then looked like 2 hours later and these litte bugs were all over the base of the stem and moving up. Yes, they were on the rim of the pot. I have not seen any of them fly, although, it does seem like maybe they try to jump or something....I say this becasue as I was watching one on the rim, it was scurrying just fine then it kinda twitched and "fell" off or it just died maybe..??? They are a light to dark gray and kind of a bit opaque. I couldn't put a measurement on it....

I hope I gave you enough....
 
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MynameStitch

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Ya, you got the same shit I had.
They are not hard to kill, from what I have seen they don't kill the plant, but they gotta do something to it......

I would get the BT ( mosquito dunks) use 1/2 dunk to a gallon of water and water.

I would also stop with the superthrive. Use that for only transplant and when the plants are stressed, it builds up quickly in cannabis, vitamin and mineral supplements.
 

dank.frank

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Hey stitch...thanks for the help....I love the guys on here that don't throw out tons of b.s. and get down to good ole' effective communication

It is guys like your self that keep these forums alive and useful. Thanks a million!!!!

One more thing, since you mentioned it.....the superthrive...could that be why it looks like I have a "salt" build up in the soil??? I another plant going with the same formula...the bug one loved it, the other hated it and went pH crazy and burned out bad. So I just kinda pushed it aside and let it go...never really recovered to well, so I just hacked it and kinda mashed up the dirt and roots. This is when I saw the "saltish" looking stuff...distributed basically evenly. Is this nute build up? is it good or bad?


 
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MynameStitch

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I am not sure about that, but it is very possible due to how potent it is... how much superthrive were you using and how often?

Oh, also, I am female lol not a guy but it's cool, no worries happens all the time :)
 

dank.frank

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Hahaha.......I see the humor. I actually meant it in a non-gender assuming way.

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I actually read the info in the profile before.

I also have decided it isn't nute build up (if there is such a thing)...but possibly sand. I see the same stuff in the soil that has no nutes added.

About the ST...I use it w/ every watering as I blend it with the nutes...absolute max of .5mL per gallon. But I only use the nutes every other watering.
 
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About the ST...I use it w/ every watering as I blend it with the nutes...absolute max of .5mL per gallon. But I only use the nutes every other watering.

Do not use it every watering, it may sound like it is harmless in dosage, but ST builds up quickly since cannabis does not use a lot of it like it absorbs nutes.

I can't tell what it is since it's so tiny and I can't see the texture very well; it could very well be sand..... if so most of the time the mixture is unsanitary which is why you have bugs :)
 

dank.frank

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unfortunately, that is the only soil available to purchase at the given time...

It is that new Miracle Grow "Organic".....blaahh...didin't really wanna buy it, but such as life

to me it just looks like some one went out to a pile of mulch and scooped it in a bag!!!

Okay, i will quit with the superthrive...thanks for the advice, m'am...hehehe
 

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You know, some people do not like organic, I know petey despises it lol. :hug:

I used it in all my grows till they changed it and added timed release junk.. blah!
If used correctly it can grow some dank, seriously!
Never got to try the organic though..... but you can add all the amendments mg makes yourself in some other soil that is good without timed released ferts.

This is the 3rd time I have seen someone with these bugs before, everyone of them had organics in there mixture...... seems they are attracted by the organics.
 

dank.frank

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well, seeing how the seasons are changing I made a trip out today and low and behold soils are in...

So I got a big big of some local really, nice and dark potting soil (hardly any peralite so I will add that according to drainage tastes) but other wise, looks fantastic. I had the bottom of the bag of the MGO left, so I had already baked that earlier and will basically be a 1:4 ratio to new stuff. (baking it right now....hehehehe...like I said...never again) Guess anything else I decide to do will get the new mix....
 

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