Removing bottom third of plant nodes about 2 weeks into 12/12

[Guest]

Has anyone tried this and saw an increase in their yield?I'm not talking about pulling a couple cuts before 12/12 but actually removing the nodes about 1/3rd of the way up.I did this recently on a female seeds GF clone and the one I trimmed and flowered in 2 gallon is by far going to outyield the same sized GF clone untrimmed and flowered in 3 gallon.I'm kind of surprised at the obviousness and wondering if this is strain sensitive,or if basically most strains will react this way.

 

[Guest]

And besides all that,I posted it in the wrong fuckin forum again!

 

[Breezy420]

Helps if the light cant get to them.

 

[Guest]

I flower with 1K vertizontals so the light can get to them,doesnt make them any bigger though still popcorn buds.Its almost worth it just not to have to fuck with that,but the results totally surprised me.I've been growing wayyyyy to long without giving it much thought just plodding along hating when I have to trim popcorn to a point of gifting it away lol,if it actually increases yield in other strains like it did with the grapefruit I've reaaaaly been a fuckin up.I'll know in 50 days or so one way or another with GF ice WW more GF and of course, the blockhead.

 

[MTF-Sandman]

I do it all the time for my SOG...I've checked the yield and it's pretty close to untrimmed (sometimes more, sometimes less), but it's all in nice buds and no popcorn - that alone is worth alot to me.

 

[Charles Xavier]

Removing the bottom third nodes of a plant is a well tried method to increase yield. However, there are a few caveats.

The most obvious is timing. If this method is employed too late in the flower cycle, then it becomes detrimental to yield. The plant is responding to stress, and as such, needs sufficient time to fully respond.

The style and medium of grow is important. In essence what is being attempted is a hormonal imbalance at a specific juncture that leads to greater yields. In a S.O.G. and in most soil applications, there simply isn't enough root mass to fully realize this imbalance.

Also important is the genetics involved. Sativas and true sativa dominant strains do not respond to this type of pruning. Their natural growth patterns and hormone production is not conducive to a favourable response to this type of stimulus.

Sincerely,
Charles.

 

[earthlin]

This type of pruning forces growth to the top sometimes resulting in a larger single cola formation very useful in SOG or coliseum style grows!

 

[Guest]

Good stuff charlie,I dont even bother with sativa's anymore I'm off that kick lol.Indica's like blockhead probably will do well huh?I'm interested in the timing aspect,I think its more important than we may think.I'm new to trying this,definately not new to hearing about it but it seems 2 weeks into 12/12 seems to be about the consensus for when to remove the nodes.What do you think about that charlie?I think after a couple weeks,the nodes have started to "stretch" and it will be more evident exactly which nodes to remove at this point.If you remove them before they start to stretch,you are going about it rather blindly just removing bottom nodes.Am I making sense with this?When do you remove your nodes charlie?

 

[Charles Xavier]

Greetings ballastman,

Blockhead, as surmised, responds quite favourably to the node removal technique. Nodes should be removed after the commencement of the stretch, but before the pistils begin to cluster. In the flower cycle this should be not earlier than day eight, not later than day twenty-one. Experience with the strain in your specific growing conditions will prove the ultimate determinant, but for Blockhead, day fourteen should be right on the mark.

You offer a very good point of clarification. In the refinement of this technique it may not be advisable to remove all the bottom third nodes. Because of location on the plant and conditions in the growing environment, sometimes a bottom node should remain intact.

Sincerely,
Charles.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Charles I'm doing soem side by sides this cycle for sure,if blockhead responds favoribly yieldwise it will be incredible.I already get good yields leaving the bottom nodes intact the thing about BH is even the popcorn is way better than the average cola on a lot of strains,but if it actually improves yield like it apparently did with the grapefruit,I'm gonna be in heaven.Just took 40 BH cuts before lunch,time to water flowering plants its a rough job but I figure somebody has to do it...

 

[jojajico]

do u use the 2 weeks as a deadline or the date at which u do all your prunning. i always thought when trainnig for a single main cola you should snip the new grwoth sites when they are newly formed as clipping larger growth would cause more stress. so do you clip it for up to 2 weeks in flower or clip them all at the 2 week mark?

 

[BUDDY BOY]

Blockhead... I love it!!! Yeah topping is the way to go. I sometimes prune the bottoms late , i.e 2-3 weeks into flowering. It really doesn't have any adverse affects. BUT, what I would recommend is, once those gals root and they grow to about the 6-7 node i would top them. I also take off those lower branches at this time!!! With doing this what ultimately do is create what I like to callan upside-down umbrella effect. All those remaining branches will reach for that light. I use the same vertizontals and all. Then you flower once you get to desired height. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW... i dont prune that late in flower on purpose and actually like to do it in veg!!! Leave yourself a good 6 branches left and you should be one happy blockheader.....

 

[BUDDY BOY]

jojajico,

Try to do all your pruning in veg. If you must do it in flower what Charles said above is right on. You are talking single cola.... i can't remeber the last time I let a gal do the single cola thing. Everything gets topped and those bottom shoots get removed to minimize popcorn... I'll go for some popcorn at the movies, but not on my gals.....

Ballastman get those stakes ready...you're gonna need them.

 

[jojajico]

jojajico,

Try to do all your pruning in veg. If you must do it in flower what Charles said above is right on. You are talking single cola.... i can't remeber the last time I let a gal do the single cola thing. Everything gets topped and those bottom shoots get removed to minimize popcorn... I'll go for some popcorn at the movies, but not on my gals.....

Ballastman get those stakes ready...you're gonna need them.

but we are talking about pruning in flower not veg. for those of us possibly doing a SOG with little to no veg time.

 

[BUDDY BOY]

SOG, little to no veg time, I would think you don't want to prune nothing.... But once again I don't do SOG, I do a FOG (forest of green). Clone,top,trim off bottoms,flower. I usually pack them in similar to SOG!!!

 

[jojajico]

SOG, little to no veg time, I would think you don't want to prune nothing.... But once again I don't do SOG, I do a FOG (forest of green). Clone,top,trim off bottoms,flower. I usually pack them in similar to SOG!!!

yea trimming for me and u would have different purposes. i want a single main cola makes harvesting easy lol. but i would love to see some pics of your FOG though.

 

[BUDDY BOY]

Yeah me too.....LOL!!! Pictures? What are those. I'm sitting here with a tinfoil hat on in my safe room that is underground on a wireless laptop that is registered to who the phuck ever.

I am a paranoid jerk that does not do pics. Shit this is the most i posted in years. STAY SAFE. I know of a dude who would only do SOG so that he would NOT have to get any help trimming. I FEEL YOU!!!

ONCE AGAIN, STAY SAFE, GOOD LUCK ON YOUR GROWS, STAY LOW!!!!! Back to the 'batcave'

 

[jojajico]

i am high right now and i have to say that read like stalin manefesto.... awesome...

 

[Guest]

Haha I guess I do a FOG also,never thought of it that way.I also adhere to tinfoil and say pic what?Stop being me lol!