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Regarding co2 315 lec umol/watt/lumen to ppm ratio

Pheno555

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Hello, recently I had decided to set up a room substituting the 600watt hps with 315watt phillips lec.

I did much research before making this decision, I have read the long threads here and in other forums, as well as studied the specs of the lights.

It seems to me they are way better than then 600watt, relatively.
The spectrum is better, the cost efficiency is better, the UV output is better, but the initial lumens are less.

Because of this, I am pretty sure under normal atmosphere conditions the 315 can perform almost as well as a 600watt hps, maybe it if were 350watt it would actually be better.

Now, my question is, in a 3x3 canopy which I am putting these 315watt bulbs, is it worth it to c02 enrich?

The umol/s and the lumens (33,000 initial lumens) dont seem to have enough photons to let the plant use anything over 400ppm of co2.

I understand that the uv output and the difference in spectrum change some of these factors, but I have not found reliable information to understand how these factors interact and how much c02 a 3x3 canopy under a 315watt lec can actually use.

Using my usual calculations, I would need TWO 315watt lec over my 3x3 canopy to let the plants actually use 1400ppm of co2, but that seems like way too much and kind of beats the point of changing the 600watt for 315watt.

Some people have told me that two 315 over a 3x3 would just be a waste of light, if not actually enough for lightburn.

What I am looking for is optimal yield.

Any input will be greatly appreciated, no guesses please.

Thanks.:dance013:
 

timmur

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According to this light calculator, in a 3 x 3 canopy you need about 1.5 fixtures. Depends on which bulb you're going to use. With the Green Power you'll end up with 1320 µmol/m²s, which is high. Might be ok with high CO2 levels. Also depends on uniformity of the light. Maybe someone with more experience will chime in. Not sure if you have the option to dim, but that would be ideal.

Here's a link to some info on CO2 and light. If you're looking for max yield, then I'd say use at least 1200 PPM CO2 and 1,000 µmol/m²s of light.
 
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Pheno555

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Thanks, great links!

I already have the whole sketch and equipment to go with the 315's per each 3x3.

Too late to go 1.5 fixtures or a double per 3x3, I am hoping that the fact of the fixtures being closer to the canopy than the 600's (probably like a foot and 2-3 inches above of canopy) the mol/m2s can get close to 1,000.

Thoughts?
 

timmur

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Yeah closer will work, but the light probably won't be as uniform so you may get hot spots. If you have money in your budget buy a cheap light meter.
 

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