zSkeletoRz
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Anyone else have issues with their red hot cookies going herm straight into flower? I found balls on all of my rhc but none of my blueberry.
Red Hot Hermaphrodites
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Get a photo so we see what you are talking about friend. 
Hey man, a mate of mine has grown quite a few out and there was a few of them that were hermy. The one I've kept as a mother seems pretty stable though.
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damn i was hoping to see somethng else when i clicked the thread.... 
zSkeletoRz
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Did they herm right into flower? I killed off all the seed plants but kept clones I couldn't bare to part with. I set one into the flower tent to see if it herms or if I had a light leak last go. Like I said, the blueberry, all fine, so I don't have high hopes.
I'll have to double check. I know a few started towards the end of flower. 7 weeks plus i think. I'll get back to you on that.
zSkeletoRz
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So far so good on the cutting I'm flowering out. No balls anywhere yet.
Unfortunatelly I must confirm that some Sweet Seed strains tend to either build some classic male flowers in early blooming stage ( all on the same height , or bananas at the end of the flowering state ).
noticed this with red hot cookies, tropicana poison in special.
Thank god my actual 4 gorilla girls kept female. Will be a very goos result.
Anyway, both strains are exceptional and if you are aware of the problem you can take precautions.
And you can still make Haschisch out of it.
that looks really red/blueish, very special ans tasty.
noticed this with red hot cookies, tropicana poison in special.
Thank god my actual 4 gorilla girls kept female. Will be a very goos result.
Anyway, both strains are exceptional and if you are aware of the problem you can take precautions.
And you can still make Haschisch out of it.
that looks really red/blueish, very special ans tasty.
SweetApolo
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Hi Snipp! Thank you very much for trusting our strains!
With the new USA genetics, the situation occurs in which the plants are more sensitive to external conditions. Because of this, there may be a slightly higher probability of this type of problem occurring. As you all know, female plants develop male flowers with stress (this is used by breeders to obtain feminized plants).
But luckily, our breeders are getting better and better at improving the new American genetics. And our quality team always ensures that the seeds are the best, so when they see that a batch is giving rise to a high number of incidents, they withdraw it.
Thank you very much for trusting us!
Sweet smokes!
APolo
Hi Apollo
I have grown a few from your strains, could show you very impressive plants
Regarding the myth about stress causing male flowers - other breeders, same conditions - no herms. ( only seeds from your Strains ).
what you have is more due to instable genetics, sorry. Do a better selection and take more time for it , (my humble advise).
You are feminising by stressing plants? Interesting approach. I thoutght colodial silver is used to bring a female to build male flowers to eliminate the male chromosome in the breed. Technically you will never get males from it - not even herms. More fems tending to virgin insemation
What about the bananas in the late flower state? Also due to stress?
But i see this also as a speciality of cannabis itself to always find a way to survive and reproduce. Its fascinating at some point..
Sincerely
I have grown a few from your strains, could show you very impressive plants
Regarding the myth about stress causing male flowers - other breeders, same conditions - no herms. ( only seeds from your Strains
).what you have is more due to instable genetics, sorry. Do a better selection and take more time for it , (my humble advise).
You are feminising by stressing plants? Interesting approach. I thoutght colodial silver is used to bring a female to build male flowers to eliminate the male chromosome in the breed. Technically you will never get males from it - not even herms. More fems tending to virgin insemation
What about the bananas in the late flower state? Also due to stress?
But i see this also as a speciality of cannabis itself to always find a way to survive and reproduce. Its fascinating at some point..
Sincerely
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He's not wrong, they do have an unusually high rate of herms in the rhc.
Just a little bit ;-).
Was not my intention to offend anyone. Also a language thing ;-). Not native english, not big rhetoric skill. But grow around 50 different strains the last years
Maybe I just overacted a bit because of the mention of stress. You often hear it's due to stress and the growers fault.
it can happen, but if it's so clearly strain related it must be the genetics
Hi Snipp !
First , i understand your disapointment ,
i' m not a teacher , i always learning
i didn' t know this strain in particular , but you got probs with it ,
for me the " stress factor" is real ( i had experiment with it from myself , light leaks , cold temps , hot temps , change of light schedule , etc ... ) , but as you said it' s certainly genetical dependent ,
some strain are more prone to hermie , like gg4 for example ,
but you can grow it perfectly with " this strain " perfect environment , it' s a blend of many things ,
and your true some other strains are not sensible to stress in general or some kind of particular stress ,
but i think it' s the price to paid for playin' with polyhybrids " elite cut " wich are just S1' and can' t really be stabilized, i' m happy to have the possibility to grow some of them , wich are not really disponible here .
that said , i saw you got some really good results with the tropicanna , so enjoy and smoke a big one like i will do in few minutes !
First , i understand your disapointment ,
i' m not a teacher , i always learning
i didn' t know this strain in particular , but you got probs with it ,
for me the " stress factor" is real ( i had experiment with it from myself , light leaks , cold temps , hot temps , change of light schedule , etc ... ) , but as you said it' s certainly genetical dependent ,
some strain are more prone to hermie , like gg4 for example ,
but you can grow it perfectly with " this strain " perfect environment , it' s a blend of many things ,
and your true some other strains are not sensible to stress in general or some kind of particular stress ,
but i think it' s the price to paid for playin' with polyhybrids " elite cut " wich are just S1' and can' t really be stabilized, i' m happy to have the possibility to grow some of them , wich are not really disponible here .
that said , i saw you got some really good results with the tropicanna , so enjoy and smoke a big one like i will do in few minutes !
Hey everyone!
I understand it's not easy to bring about such subject for a seedbank without sounding a bit negative, hehehe. It's all good, we are here to listen from you
I think bibi40 also meant that it might be a bit unfair to judge a seedbank for only 1 strain. Or, even better, a batch of seeds.
For bibi40 and many other growers who have been growing Sweet Seeds® for many years without any problem at all, it's strange to read this type of feedback from other growers. For us, it's not so strange, because when thousands of growers use your strains you know that even if 99% get good results and are happy, the 1% still can be a few hundreds (if not also thousands) of growers and many times they make their voices heard in cannabic forums. I think it's normal and totally acceptable.
It is also important to note that, eventually, now you could change all the strains for your next run, with a different strain from Sweet Seeds® together with many other strains from other seedbanks and, who knows, next time the problem comes from a strain from another seedbank. And, in my opinion, that would not be representative of the quality of the work from the other seedbank.
In regards to Apolo's comment, my interpretation is not that it's the grower's fault. I would say it like this: many strains in the market are especially sensitive to specific growth parameters. And the parameters may even be ok, so it's not the grower's fault and other strains under the same conditions can perform perfectly.
Also, the interpretation of this quote from Apolo "As you all know, female plants develop male flowers with stress (this is used by breeders to obtain feminized plants).", as if by "breeders" he meant "Sweet Seeds® breeders" is not correct. Apolo points out that this is a technique used by [some] breeders, just as a mere curiosity to bring his reasoning to a conclusion.
At Sweet Seeds® we were pioneers in the production of feminized seeds using STS for sex reversal and that is the way all our seeds were produced since 2004. But, unfortunately for us, as for everyone else using the same methods, not all the resulting strains will perform perfectly well under every growing condition/parameter. And, as mentioned before, even if the parameter is correct. It's as a characteristic of a strain that is especially sensitive to a specific condition.
With that being said, of course we are not happy for Snipp or other growers who are not totally happy with any of our strains. It's not their fault, but maybe it's also not fair to evaluate a seedbank taking only one negative experience in consideration.
We only hope that one negative experience is not enough for you to delete this seedbank from your list of seedbanks whose strains you'd consider growing in the future.
Kind regards,
tommy
I understand it's not easy to bring about such subject for a seedbank without sounding a bit negative, hehehe. It's all good, we are here to listen from you
I think bibi40 also meant that it might be a bit unfair to judge a seedbank for only 1 strain. Or, even better, a batch of seeds.
For bibi40 and many other growers who have been growing Sweet Seeds® for many years without any problem at all, it's strange to read this type of feedback from other growers. For us, it's not so strange, because when thousands of growers use your strains you know that even if 99% get good results and are happy, the 1% still can be a few hundreds (if not also thousands) of growers and many times they make their voices heard in cannabic forums. I think it's normal and totally acceptable.
It is also important to note that, eventually, now you could change all the strains for your next run, with a different strain from Sweet Seeds® together with many other strains from other seedbanks and, who knows, next time the problem comes from a strain from another seedbank. And, in my opinion, that would not be representative of the quality of the work from the other seedbank.
In regards to Apolo's comment, my interpretation is not that it's the grower's fault. I would say it like this: many strains in the market are especially sensitive to specific growth parameters. And the parameters may even be ok, so it's not the grower's fault and other strains under the same conditions can perform perfectly.
Also, the interpretation of this quote from Apolo "As you all know, female plants develop male flowers with stress (this is used by breeders to obtain feminized plants).", as if by "breeders" he meant "Sweet Seeds® breeders" is not correct. Apolo points out that this is a technique used by [some] breeders, just as a mere curiosity to bring his reasoning to a conclusion.
At Sweet Seeds® we were pioneers in the production of feminized seeds using STS for sex reversal and that is the way all our seeds were produced since 2004. But, unfortunately for us, as for everyone else using the same methods, not all the resulting strains will perform perfectly well under every growing condition/parameter. And, as mentioned before, even if the parameter is correct. It's as a characteristic of a strain that is especially sensitive to a specific condition.
With that being said, of course we are not happy for Snipp or other growers who are not totally happy with any of our strains. It's not their fault, but maybe it's also not fair to evaluate a seedbank taking only one negative experience in consideration.
We only hope that one negative experience is not enough for you to delete this seedbank from your list of seedbanks whose strains you'd consider growing in the future.
Kind regards,
tommy
