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Recommended CFM for 600w hps in aircooled hood?
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im using a 6" vortex at 449cfm, I tryed a 265cfm fan but I did not help much with heat
G
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its in a Daystar AC
UNREGISTRD
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How to size your exhaust fan
There are many calculations on the web for sizing a fan for ventilating grow rooms; however, what these calculations fail to take into consideration is the friction loss on carbon filters, increased temperatures from HID lights and CO2, etc. The following calculation can be used as a guide for sizing an exhaust fan for a growing area (keep in mind that this calculation will give you the lowest required CFM required to ventilate the grow room):
Step 1 – Room Volume
First the volume of the room needs to be calculated. To calculate multiply length x width x height of growing area e.g. A room that is 8' x 8' x 8' will have a volume of 512 cubic feet.
Step 2 – CFM Required
The fan should be able to adequately exchange the air in a grow room once every three minutes. Therefore, 512 cubic feet/3 minutes = 171 cfm. This will be the absolute minimum cfm for exchanging the air in a grow room.
Step 3 – Additional factors
Unfortunately, the minimum cfm needed to ventilate a grow room is never quite that simple. Once the grower has calculated the minimum cfm required for their grow room the following additional factors need to be considered:
1. Number of HID lights – add 5% per air cooled light or 10-15% per non-air cooled light.
2. CO2 – add 5% for rooms with CO2 enrichment
3. Filters – if a carbon filter is to be used with the exhaust system then add 20%
4. Ambient temperature – for hot climates (such as Southern California) add 25%, for hot and humid climates (such as Florida) add up to 40%.
Example 1:
In our 8’ x 8’ room we have 2 x 1000w air cooled lights, and we plan to use a carbon filter. We also plan to use CO2 in this room. The ambient temperature is 90°F, however, we will be using air from another room that is air-conditioned.
Minimum Required CFM to ventilate room:
(CFM required for room – step 2) + (CFM required for room – step 2 x 10% (2 air cooled lights)) + (CFM required for room – step 2 x 5% (CO2)) + (CFM required for room – step 2 x 20% (Carbon Filter)) + (Ambient Temperature 0 (Air coming from air-conditioned room)).
= (171cfm) + (171cfm x 10%) +
(171cfm x 5%) + (171cfm x 20%) + ( 0 )
= 231cfm – this is the absolute minimum cfm required to ventilate your room.
The next step would be to match the closest fan to this CFM. As we are using a carbon filter we will need to match the fan with the filter so that the fan that will neatly fit onto the filter. The filter that we will use is a Dutch Breeze Carbon Filter - DFS4. The DFS4 has a 6" flange. Our options for 6" fans are as follows:
- Eco Plus 6” – 440cfm
- Fantech 6” – 252cfm
- Fantech 6” XL – 392cfm
- Elicient 150B – 309cfm
The DFS4 filter has a cfm rating of 255-309, so the fan that we will choose for our room will be the Elicient 6” fan. This will be an ideal fan for this room and carbon filter, since the extra cfm will help compensate for the small amount of ducting we may have to run.
If only step one and two was used (the calculation that is most commonly displayed on garden websites) then the grower would have chosen a 4” fan and a 4” carbon filter; the grower would have soon found out that this fan and carbon filter would have been inadequate for their grow room.
compliments of BGH.com
There are many calculations on the web for sizing a fan for ventilating grow rooms; however, what these calculations fail to take into consideration is the friction loss on carbon filters, increased temperatures from HID lights and CO2, etc. The following calculation can be used as a guide for sizing an exhaust fan for a growing area (keep in mind that this calculation will give you the lowest required CFM required to ventilate the grow room):
Step 1 – Room Volume
First the volume of the room needs to be calculated. To calculate multiply length x width x height of growing area e.g. A room that is 8' x 8' x 8' will have a volume of 512 cubic feet.
Step 2 – CFM Required
The fan should be able to adequately exchange the air in a grow room once every three minutes. Therefore, 512 cubic feet/3 minutes = 171 cfm. This will be the absolute minimum cfm for exchanging the air in a grow room.
Step 3 – Additional factors
Unfortunately, the minimum cfm needed to ventilate a grow room is never quite that simple. Once the grower has calculated the minimum cfm required for their grow room the following additional factors need to be considered:
1. Number of HID lights – add 5% per air cooled light or 10-15% per non-air cooled light.
2. CO2 – add 5% for rooms with CO2 enrichment
3. Filters – if a carbon filter is to be used with the exhaust system then add 20%
4. Ambient temperature – for hot climates (such as Southern California) add 25%, for hot and humid climates (such as Florida) add up to 40%.
Example 1:
In our 8’ x 8’ room we have 2 x 1000w air cooled lights, and we plan to use a carbon filter. We also plan to use CO2 in this room. The ambient temperature is 90°F, however, we will be using air from another room that is air-conditioned.
Minimum Required CFM to ventilate room:
(CFM required for room – step 2) + (CFM required for room – step 2 x 10% (2 air cooled lights)) + (CFM required for room – step 2 x 5% (CO2)) + (CFM required for room – step 2 x 20% (Carbon Filter)) + (Ambient Temperature 0 (Air coming from air-conditioned room)).
= (171cfm) + (171cfm x 10%) +
(171cfm x 5%) + (171cfm x 20%) + ( 0 )
= 231cfm – this is the absolute minimum cfm required to ventilate your room.
The next step would be to match the closest fan to this CFM. As we are using a carbon filter we will need to match the fan with the filter so that the fan that will neatly fit onto the filter. The filter that we will use is a Dutch Breeze Carbon Filter - DFS4. The DFS4 has a 6" flange. Our options for 6" fans are as follows:
- Eco Plus 6” – 440cfm
- Fantech 6” – 252cfm
- Fantech 6” XL – 392cfm
- Elicient 150B – 309cfm
The DFS4 filter has a cfm rating of 255-309, so the fan that we will choose for our room will be the Elicient 6” fan. This will be an ideal fan for this room and carbon filter, since the extra cfm will help compensate for the small amount of ducting we may have to run.
If only step one and two was used (the calculation that is most commonly displayed on garden websites) then the grower would have chosen a 4” fan and a 4” carbon filter; the grower would have soon found out that this fan and carbon filter would have been inadequate for their grow room.
compliments of BGH.com
G
Guest
from what iv heard Elicient fans are no good
UNREGISTRD
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mr.blast_420 said:
yes your right VORTEX IMO is the best..There the quietest at least!
G
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they are quiet, well made and have the highest cfm rating for 6" next to the hurricane fans
Hmm, thats some good info unregistrd, but i dont think it applies to grow cabs. Mathematically the formula is way off target for a grow cab. Thanks anyway, i might use it if i ever do a room grow.
My grow cab is 4'x4'x2' and i'm currently running a non-aircooled diy 400w hps with a 160cfm duct fan for exhaust. The temps in the cab are around 87 F and near 90 F on hotter days. I plan on getting a 600w hps and a daystar AC or a cooltube for my next grow. So i'll think i'll get a 449 cfm vortex just incase.
BTW, do you know the noise level output of a 449cfm vortex in dBA?
My grow cab is 4'x4'x2' and i'm currently running a non-aircooled diy 400w hps with a 160cfm duct fan for exhaust. The temps in the cab are around 87 F and near 90 F on hotter days. I plan on getting a 600w hps and a daystar AC or a cooltube for my next grow. So i'll think i'll get a 449 cfm vortex just incase.
BTW, do you know the noise level output of a 449cfm vortex in dBA?
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49 dba i think
legalizekindtok
Member
man i use a 174 dayton on my 1k hps with the room vented from a ac duct off my main house supply my room stays about 78-85
i didnt think that little fan would do the trick but it sucks the glaas against the light hood.
i didnt think that little fan would do the trick but it sucks the glaas against the light hood.
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just checked out the vortex site and here are the specs for the 6"
CFM - 449
Watts - 100
Amps - 0.80
Weight - 11.3lbs
R.P.M. - 2600
dBA - 49
CFM - 449
Watts - 100
Amps - 0.80
Weight - 11.3lbs
R.P.M. - 2600
dBA - 49
UNREGISTRD
Active member
check out the specs of the 8" as well! not much of a difference if any!
G
Guest
there fans kick ass!
DurbanPoison
Member
Vortex Fan
Vortex Fan
Hey I just bought myself a little Vortex fan the 175cfm [small space] and I noticed the price I got is... well frankly it seems like stealing. Hope it helps!
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/index.php?cPath=76_352
Vortex Fan
Hey I just bought myself a little Vortex fan the 175cfm [small space] and I noticed the price I got is... well frankly it seems like stealing. Hope it helps!
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/index.php?cPath=76_352
DP - those are some fab prices - can't believe how much cheaper than when I bought my 6" last year! Thx for the url!
DurbanPoison
Member
Wahoo - mine will arrive on Friday. Let's hope this will do a lot better than the home depot 25$ 6" inductor ... i dont want to call it a fan - but it does blow. 
Not in a good way though. With my small NGB Style cab - i got the smallest vortex 4"er 175cfm which should be perfect with my carbon filter. Cross your fingers everyone.
Not in a good way though. With my small NGB Style cab - i got the smallest vortex 4"er 175cfm which should be perfect with my carbon filter. Cross your fingers everyone.
