ready for first transplant?

[Guest]

this is a 2 week seedling under 250W MH in a 2x2x4 (ft.) cab
temps are in 80's, gonna have an osciliating fan some time next week.

Should I transplant this into a 1.5Liter/4" pot with fox farms ocean forest or should I wait another couple weeks? I don't want to shock the plant since, I understand Oceans Forest is very strong soil, it's only been 2 weeks since it's sprouted and it's planted in just regular Perry Foss Germinating soil in Peat pots. There haven't been any nutrients added.

 

[Guest]

no reason to transplant...that thing is tiny for 2 weeks.

 

[Guest]

it might have only been a week, i can't remember, how many weeks do you think I should wait until transplanting, or until what size in height would you recommend?

and would you recommend any nutrients at this stage?

 

[Guest]

what if I was to just mix a tabelesoon of ocean forest in the current pot, so the plant gets used to it when it gets transplanted?

 

[dex0r]

you have about 2 weeks before you'll need to transplant that. and no don't add nutrients now either, wait until the transplant i'd say. nutrients now will not help it get used to it, it'll just burn it cuz it's too small for nutes. less is more.

 

[Jnugg]

just let the plant grow dude,don't do anything but let it bask in the light and water with plain PH correct water until it starts to yellow on the lower most leaves,then feed with 1/2 trength veg fertilizer,next watering just plain water and then transplant/So in about 2-4 more weeks expect to transplant.

 

[Guest]

alright i'll wait a couple weeks before transplant, what do you mean by plain PH correct water? I'm just using tap water for now, was using distilled until I ran out, I know you mean PH correct as in at 7, right? but what kind of water? distilled, tap, etc..

thanks

 

[Guest]

what kind of 1/2 strength veg fertilizer are you refering to? something like fox farms tiger bloom/veg (don't remember the terminology but they have one for veg), or can I just transplant to ocean forest without adding veg. fertilizer? or am I getting nutrients and fertilizer confused? are you saying in a couple weeks add 1/2 of what i'm using now and 1/2 of ocean forest?

 

[Jnugg]

Fertilizer/nutrients are the same thing just different terminologys.

Just grow your plants out another 2-3 weeks and then you can transplant into the Ocean Forest.After about 2 weeks of being in the OF start feeding at half strength (unless they show signs of needing to be fed do'nt feed for 2 weeks after transplanting)

Ferting at half strength doesn't have to be done with any certain fertilizer,it is just recommended so you can get a handle on how much fert per gallon you should be using so you don't over fert the plants.

If going with Fox Farm Ocean Forest potting mix then why not go out and buy Fox Farm Grow BigmTiger Bloom and Big Bloom all made by FF and made to work in conjunction with each other.

You should use either R/O or Distilled water.Tap water can have a seriously high PH (7.5 and up) and contains nastys like chlorine and other crap that can mess up the way your plant takes nutes and water.

Always make sure that the water you use for your plants is a ph of 6.5-7.0 (this is what untouched R/O & Distilled waters PH should already be).

When you add fertilizers/nutes they will lower the PH of your water supply and it is a given that the more P-K in the ferts the more acidic they will make the water supply so you will need a form of PH Up and PH Down to ballance it out.

When watering plants the waters PH should be 6.5-7.0 and when mixing ferts/nutes into the water for feeding check the PH of the water after adding the ferts and then adjust to the appropriate PH.

I have the Fox Farm Ocean Forest Feeding schedule so here it is.

Also when you get the FF OF you may want to add 15% more perlite to make it a little more aerated and add about 2 tbls. of fine powdered Dolomitic lime per gallon of soil to help buffer the PH over time becuase in flower the ph of the soil can drop due to the fact it has Peat Moss in it.


Once your plant has been in it's original soil for 2 weeks and you notice the lower most leaves starting to yellow just feed with 1/2 strength dose of FF Grow Big so you would use 1 Tsp. of FF Grow Big per gallon of water.

Water plant until 25% of water going in comes out the bottom.Let soil dry out for a few days (not bone dry though) and then follow up with just plain old ph 6.5/7.0 water,don't fert again until you see signs of yellowing again.

Follow the FF fedding schedule and you should have no problems.

 

[Jnugg]

No not add half of what you use now and half OF.

Whatever soil you have the plant in now keep letting it grow in it until it needs to be transplanted.When transplanting,transplant directly into FF OF potting mix.Do not add fertilizers for 2 weeks after transplanting.After 2 weeks of growing in the FF OF then begin to fertilize with either half strength dose of FF Grow Big or just follow the FF OF Feeding Schedule I provided.

 

[Guest]

thanks again!

I've read of people saying that OF is so strong that you don't even need any nutrients and can grow with just the soil all the way through, what do you think about that?

 

[Guest]

Here is my #1 thing to tell a first timer. You have be able to pick up the rootball by grabbing the plants stem and pulling.

You have a while to go before then.

 

[Guest]

Here is my #1 thing to tell a first timer. You have be able to pick up the rootball by grabbing the plants stem and pulling.

You have a while to go before then.

what about if you just cut the cup, and pull everything out and just discard the soil and then re-transplant?

 

[guineapig]

instead of cutting the cup why not just roll the sides of the peat pot delicately back and forth to loosen the sides of it and then turn it over?

as long as you have watered it before-hand very very thoroughly.....isn't this the method of choice (once that tiny seedling reaches the point where it needs to be transplanted)?

 

[Guest]

here's what it looks like now, the picture with the little leaf with a square around it, is starting to turn yellow. should i wait until the end of the week or wait another week to transplant?

 

[Guest]

hey bro ,,, it just that ,,, you are in way to big of a hurry to grow this plant ,,,
these plants have to be able to complete one cycle before starting another ,,,
without so much detail ,,, just let it grow ,,, give it air,, water ,,, if your using alot of tap water ,,, you WILL need to get some clearx flush once every 2 weeks ,,,. feed the plant 1/2 of what the container said ,, when ya get ready to flower ,, set it up so that you have to feed it 1 more veg feeding the same day you turn the lights back to 12 /12 ,,, this gives enough nitrogen for the streach .. then give the plant flowering food ,, if i were you ( a beginner) i would use 5-10-10 solution ,, and only use 3 to 4 times in flowering ,, that is all the feeding you will have to do .. the whole plant life or a 4 month grow ,, you should only feed it like 7 times it's whole life .. if that !!
so slow down .. as for the size of it now ,, you should try a very weak starter solution . looks wet to .. it only needs about 1 inch of water a week in that thing ..
and don't use cold water !!! room temp ,, if ya using tap let it sit over night so it can evaporate the chlorine.

 

[Guest]

hey bro ,,, it just that ,,, you are in way to big of a hurry to grow this plant ,,,
these plants have to be able to complete one cycle before starting another ,,,
without so much detail ,,, just let it grow ,,, give it air,, water ,,, if your using alot of tap water ,,, you WILL need to get some clearx flush once every 2 weeks ,,,. feed the plant 1/2 of what the container said ,, when ya get ready to flower ,, set it up so that you have to feed it 1 more veg feeding the same day you turn the lights back to 12 /12 ,,, this gives enough nitrogen for the streach .. then give the plant flowering food ,, if i were you ( a beginner) i would use 5-10-10 solution ,, and only use 3 to 4 times in flowering ,, that is all the feeding you will have to do .. the whole plant life or a 4 month grow ,, you should only feed it like 7 times it's whole life .. if that !!
so slow down .. as for the size of it now ,, you should try a very weak starter solution . looks wet to .. it only needs about 1 inch of water a week in that thing ..
and don't use cold water !!! room temp ,, if ya using tap let it sit over night so it can evaporate the chlorine.

in the beginning i was using tap water, then went to distilled until I ran out and got spring water, i'll pick up distilled water, the reason i'm in a hurry for my first transplant is since i don't want the plant to die due to lack of nutes, I haven't given it any fertilizer at all, I'm just using some Perry Foss, peat moss germination soil, and my next transplant would be to fox farms so I wouldn't be in such a hurry to make sure it gets fertilizer.

i had just watered it before I took the picture, I water twice a day just enough to where it's moist, once in the morning and once at night, the reason is those peat moss cups dry up quick, i only water if the soil is dry. my first plant, i was watering every 3 days and it died from lack of water and they're under 250W HPS. although this morning i do think I overwatered, and I always give it cold water, so i'm going to start with room temperature water.

and what's this clearx flush that you're speaking about where can I get it and how does it work? and when should i use it?

 

[Guest]

Yea, this is a SLOW patience requiring process man.

Learn to check on em once every two days (who am I kidding, I cant even do that yet)

 

[Guest]

Yea, this is a SLOW patience requiring process man.

Learn to check on em once every two days (who am I kidding, I cant even do that yet)

I didn't have a problem with being patient in the beginning but then when my seedling died after not watering for 3 days, I've started checking on them more and watering more. I'm using those Peat Moss cups, and this 250W light on these cups dries them up real quick.

 

[Guest]

Yeah, just let it grow for awhile. You are not even close to the transplanting stage. You should wait untill you at least see a node or two.