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Microbeman

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ive seen it added to few mychorrhizal/beneficial mico products by respectable companies. (fungi perfecti & others some OFC members recommend)

I know its the 'money making' everything in one bag; has lots of stuff and is therefore good mentality.....unfortunate.
 
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ngen

ive actually came across that mineral mix a while back,wasnt aware who the guy was then

as for the Trichoderma, ive seen it added to few mychorrhizal/beneficial mico products by respectable companies. (fungi perfecti & others some OFC members recommend)

heres another good read,
i thought was excellent(again thnx to Von lnks)
Towards a Sustainable Agriculture~the Living Soil
By Lady Eve Balfour

a quote from the above,had to after what MrFista posted:tiphat:

all about the wholeness approach, thinking OFC members are on the same page =)

Awesome find, i'm going to have to go through the Ideal soil book in greater depth, I meet the man who it is dedicated too and had a chat with him a while ago, he definitely knew what was up.

oh and Mr. Fista, Spurr actually posted a link, i'm sure you would prefer a hard copy but if your still interested:

9. "The Ideal Soil: A handbook for new agriculture"
Micheal Astera and Agricola
(I can't comment on this e-book because I have not yet read it, but it comes well recommended to me; password to decrypt file: "more_info" [without quotes])
http://filesurf.ru/209371
 
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ngen

i can seem to figue out how to use that link
im getting a error

I just tried it and the same thing is happening to me, but i already downloaded it when the link was still working. I'll try and figure out if i can put it back up somewhere for the people on here who missed it, just gimme a while, a bit busy this week.
 

Microbeman

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These rice fields, which have been farmed
continuously for over 1,500 years, have now been laid waste by the
exploitive farming practices of a single generation.

From One Straw Revolution

This is what we have done; what we are doing. This mentality continues out of control, even with the recent election results.
 

spurr

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Here it is! I have been looking for this thread. Gotta catch up on what has been posted since I lost track of this thread :)
 

Clackamas Coot

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In the December, 2010 issue of Acres USA Magazine ("A Voice for Eco-Agriculture") there is an article titled "Beyond NPK - Trace Minerals" and each month they select 2 of the articles in the printed version and post it at their web site. Fortunately this article was selected for the month of December.

TeraVita LC-10+7 is a good source for the trace minerals discussed and are in a chelated form. I've used this and feel it's a very viable product though I really didn't understand why until I read this article when it arrived a couple of weeks ago.

BioAg TM-7 is another good choice though it's in a powder form and like the TeraVita product has humic & fulvic acids as the base of the mix with the chelated minerals.

This is a very good read and covers a wide range of topics related to trace minerals.

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spurr

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@ all,

I see that the e-book "The Ideal Soil" (v1.3) I uploaded to filesurf is gone, I think they cleared house on uploads from people using Tor :(

So, here it is again, at a different Russian file host that is easier to download from, in English:


"The Ideal Soil: A handbook for new agriculture"
Micheal Astera and Agricola, version 1.3
http://www.file-upload.net/download-3026657/The_Ideal_Soil_v1.3.zip.html
  • passphrase to decrypt the compressed file to get the e-book is "more_info"; without quotes.
 

DARC MIND

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a few articles from Acres Mag
four bases to mineralized soil
&
Concentrated economic power is as great a threat to the common good
Concentrated economic power is as great a threat to the common good as concentrated political power is to democracy.
In practice, the two go hand in hand. When a big company gains the power to dominate markets and dictate the terms of trade, political muscle almost always comes with it. Very often, political muscle helps create the economic advantage through favorable public policies.
The big seed companies are the economic powers in crop agriculture today. They have grasped biotechnology and used it to dictate the terms of trade to their benefit. No other agribusiness sector has matched their success in increasing market share while aggressively raising prices – even creating new "technology fees" for the right to use their seeds.
Their political power was on recent display when Monsanto swept into Montana in response to proposed legislation requiring a court order or permission before going on farmers’ land to test their crops for patented genes. Company representatives and local allies took six of nine Agriculture Committee members to dinner at a premier Missoula restaurant the night before the public hearing. The bill – which protected property and due process rights we normally take for granted – died.
Favorable policy helped establish seed industry economic power. Weak antitrust enforcement enabled big companies to buy up smaller rivals with promising seeds. Court rulings and legislation that allowed seed patenting created effective monopolies on valuable seed traits.
Finally, USDA and land grant colleges focused billions of dollars of tax-supported research on developing biotechnology, leading to control of valuable traits. Finalls, USDA and land grant college focused billions of dollars of tax-supported research on developing biotechnology, leading to control of valuable tratis by individial seed companies. For example, the University of Nebraska developed soybeans resistant to the herbicides Banvel® and Clarity®. But rather than making the trait widely available, it licensed exclusive control to Monsanto for tens of millions of dollars.
Monsanto already controls the primary patents for crops resistant to the herbicide Roundup®, planted to most U.S. soybean acres and increasing numbers of corn acres. But as more weeds develop resistance to the herbicide, Monsanto needs seeds that tolerate additional herbicides to maintain its dominance.
The worst result of the over emphasis on biotechnology is the research not done on farming systems that increase farmers’ economic leverage by enabling them to use their management to cut input cost. There has been little research to develop faster growing varieties suitable to weed control with less herbicide or to develop cover crops that don’t take much water from the soil but do boost soil fertility, suppress weeds, and conserve and improve soil.
The publicly-funded research system has lost sight of its purpose for being – to do research that serves the public and advances the common good.
-Check Hassebrook
some should consider subscribing,ther book store puts this list to shame
o & thanx spurr for that link
 

delerious

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a few articles from Acres Mag
four bases to mineralized soil
&
Concentrated economic power is as great a threat to the common good

some should consider subscribing,ther book store puts this list to shame
o & thanx spurr for that link

Thanks for the link Darc Mind. Does anyone have the one Clackamas Coot mentioned from December? By the time I saw his message the January issue was up and I couldn't find it in the archives

Oh, didn't see it mentioned, but Acres will send a free sample issue. Their subscription price is pretty decent.
 

DARC MIND

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PARADISE GARDENING

PARADISE GARDENING

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]PARADISE GARDENING [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]by Joe Hollis[/FONT] [/FONT]

We want to save the world, and we want to save ourselves. It's the same thing. The problems confronting us are enormous and at every level: personal, social, planetary. I will spare you a list. My aim is to suggest that they are all symptoms of one problem, and to propose a solution.

The problem: to find a way to live on earth which promotes our health and happiness / is conducive to the full development of our innate potential, and at the same time, is "democratic", that is, available to all / not using more than our share, and harmonious with the biosphere's evident drive toward increasing diversity, complexity, stability.

Our world is being destroyed, in the final analysis, by an extremely misguided notion of what constitutes a successful human life. Materialism is running rampant and WILL CONSUME EVERYTHING, because its hunger will never be sated by its consumption. Human life has become a cancer on the planet, gobbling up all the flows of matter and energy, poisoning with our waste. What can stop this monster?

Nothing. Just this: walk away from it. It is time, indeed time is running out, to abandon the entire edifice of civilization / the State / the Economy and walk (don't run!) to a better place: home, to Paradise.

Paradise is, first of all, a garden. A garden in which everything we need is there for the taking.

2) And Paradise Gardening is a way of life which serves to maintain the garden, and is in turn maintained by it. Odum calls this the "ecosystem manager... an organism that utilizes a small fraction of the total energy budget and in return provides a service which aids the system in its function and continued survival." ( The concept "illustrates the ideal which man should imitate in his attempts to manage a natural ecosystem.") Genesis, with the characteristic compression of myth, says we were put into the garden " to dress it and keep it." Same thing.

3) Paradise gardening is not work. Work is a subjective concept: one person's play may be another person's work. It has nothing to do with effort: tennis, for example, is usually "play" ( unless you're a pro), sitting at a computer terminal is frequently "work". Work is whatever you are doing when you'd rather be doing something else. Paradise Gardening is not "work" in the same sense that what a bear does all day is not "work". This is the distinction which the Taoists make between "doing" and "not-doing". Genesis refers to the same matter in saying that only outside the garden do we have to earn our living " by the sweat of our brow".

4) Paradise Gardening is not agriculture. From chemical to organic agriculture is a step in the right direction, but only the first step. Agriculture itself is, after all, half of the one-two punch that knocked us out of Paradise in the fist place. (Good) farmers, to be sure, love nature: but they love her in the context of plowing her up every year and deciding what to grow next. Our addiction to annual species and disturbed habitats has put us at odds with the main thrust of the biosphere ( and ourselves).

Oh, Earth is patient and Earth is old
And a mother of Gods, but he breaks her,
To-ing, fro-ing, with the plow teams going,
Tearing the soil of her, year by year.
Sophocles, Antigone

Every spring, nature begins again to clothe the earth in beauty, the process of succession, the initial strands of the intricate web, rebirth of the Tree of Life. An every Autumn we scrape it off, rake it into barns, take it to market: we increase human diversity and complexity (butcher, baker, candlestick-maker...) by appropriating to ourselves processes which are meant to benefit all.

Paradise is a habitat and a niche. Eliade refers to a universal "nostalgia for Paradise". Memories coded into our genes of our place, our fit. How, after all, does a bird (for example) select a place to build a nest? So many factors to consider (and such a small brain!). It just picks the most beautiful spot available. It was born with a "template" for Paradise. Concerning this the Book of Odes says "The twittering yellow bird, the bright silky warbler, comes to its rest in the hollow corner of the hill", and Confucius commented "Come to rest, alights, knows what its rest is, what its ease is. Is man, for all his wit, less wise than this bird of yellow plumage that he should not know his resting place or fix the point of his aim?"
(Pound, trans.)

Like any other creature, we are our niche. By our physiology and behavioral programming we are born to live a certain kind of life. Paradise is our birthright and our duty.

Now, instead, we take up a niche in civilization. The premise of civilization is that if everyone is a less than complete human being (I'll be the brains, you be the back), it will be the better for us all. This insulting premise has guided us for so long that we are unaware of an alternative. We equate "making a living" with "making money". Thus we spend the best hours of our lives pursuing our careers, being part of the cancer.

But everything needful to be completely human is available to us in the environment - the garden and the neighborhood. We can rely on the truth of this because "human-ness" is a creation of the environment, the most recent manifestation of a coevolution between our genes and all the other genes out there that has been going on since the beginning of life on earth. Much chancier is the possibility that everything we need to be completely human is available to us in the city, or through money.

The last time we lived in paradise it was as "foragers": hunters and gatherers, omnivorous, opportunistic exploiters of a variety of environments. Specialists, not of disturbance but of diversity.

This lifestyle has gotten a lot of attention recently ( at the very time that the last vestiges of it are being eradicated). The view that foraging is a superior (to agriculture) adaptation is now well established in academia and the same theme appears in popular literature (E.g. Bruce Chatwin, The Songlines and Varges Llosa, The Storyteller, both inspiring).

A revolution in the study if human niche was prompted by the realization that foragers, far from living on the brink of starvation, as previously imagined, actually had more leisure than anyone else (Lee & deVore, Man the Hunter). Boserup (The Conditions of Agricultural Growth) suggests that there have never been any "agricultural revolutions", in the sense of a sudden invention of a great new way to produce food; but rather that increases in food production always come at the cost of even greater increases in labor (or fossil fuel) input, that the techniques were always well known to the producers, but resisted until finally demanded by the rising population ( or the demands of the upper classes for a surplus, a "cash crop"). "Agriculture permits denser food growth supporting denser population and larger social units but at the cost of reduced dietary quality [less diversity to choose from], reduced reliability of harvest [eggs in less baskets], and equal or probably greater labor per unit of food...agriculture is not a difficult concept but one readily available to hunting and gathering groups..." (Mark Cohen, The Food Crisis in Prehistory)

Agriculture, in turn, allowed population to expand more rapidly. Any attempt to live a foraging life in the modern world would seem to be only an interesting but ultimately irrelevant exercise of the "historic village" variety. That "there is no going back" is merely a truism. What those who recite it mean to say is that there is no changing direction, progress can be only a straight line - from an original home in nature to a world eventually completely human, domesticated, farmed.

At this point, I would rephrase the "problem" with which this essay began: How can we, with our contemporary tastes and population level, live and coexist as foragers (ecosystem managers)? "Caught in the devil's bargain", how can we "get ourselves back to the garden"? (J. Mitchell, "Woodstock")

The strategy here proposed, Paradise Gardening, may be described as "intensified foraging". David Harris, in a series of papers, explored "alternative pathways to agriculture". Particularly valuable is his distinction between "agricultural manipulation and transformation...agricultural utilization may - and, if sufficiently intensive, usually does - lead to the transformation of a natural into a largely artificial ecosystem: the replacement of a tropical rainforest by plantation, of temperate woodland by wheat fields...But agriculture may proceed by a process of manipulation which involves the alteration of selected components of the natural system rather than its wholesale replacement- a method of cultivation which involves substituting certain preferred domesticated species for wild species in equivalent ecological niches and so simulates the structure and functional dynamics of the natural ecosystem". Harris has recently edited a collection of papers (From Foraging to Farming) which which further explores the emerging realization "that many 'non-agricultural' peoples were in fact engaged in intensive and sophisticated plant practices which did not fit our idea of agriculture".

Our goal is to "naturalize" ourselves in the environment. This will involve changing ourselves and changing the environment: convergence toward "fit". Perfect fit means the free and easy flowing of matter and energy between ourselves and our environment; life lived as a complete gift - from the garden to us, from us to the garden.

But that is in the future, what we need now is a process, leading to that goal, which is justified on its own terms. Focus on the ideal Paradise Garden will tempt us to take shortcuts, perpetuating the same old pattern of selling out the present for some imagined "better" future. "No act is good unless its goodness is seen in the immediacy of the act. An act which justifies itself by appealing to a greater good... all appeals to reason, expediency, and necessity, are appeals to the very force that wreck all ideals. One must have courage and be willing to take risks". (Wm. Thompson, Evil and World Order)

Ecology teaches that a "pioneer" (disturbed) environment favors life forms that are fast growing but short- lived, wide-spreading, "greedy"- designed to capture the maximum of sunlight and unoccupied soil. But eventually they are succeeded by the trees, which, because they invest energy in making wood, grow more slowly at first, but are more stable, longer-lived, and finally faster growing, more influential, the "dominant species", towering above.

We have spread ourselves over the earth, and used or burned just about everything that's easy to get. The age of the greedy ones draws to a close ( they don't know it yet). At last, we may hope, the "competitive advantage" passes to the practitioners of permanence, rooted-ness, slow growth and steady accumulation, the vertical expansion of the human spirit into realms uncharted, or long forgotten. A tree derives its satisfaction from the view achieved.

The process of Paradise Gardening involves:

-Extricating our life-support system from civilization/the Economy (bluntly, money), and reattaching it to the natural world of garden and neighborhood. This will be a gradual process requiring a real analysis of our needs and expenditures. Thus, for example, cars and gasoline are not needs but only the means to the satisfaction of needs. The solution is not gasohol but reducing the reason for traveling (usually the getting and spending of money). Concerning this the Tao Te Ching says "The country over the border might be so near that one could hear the cocks crowing and the dogs barking in it, but the people would grow old and die without ever once troubling to go there". (Ch. 80. See Needham, Science and Civilization in China, vol. II for a discussion of " the political program of the Taoists: the return to cooperative primitivity.")

The key to the self justifying nature of the process is this: things made or done by professionals or machines may be technically superior to one's own efforts, but are generally lacking in a quality which following Castenada, I will call "heart". Satisfaction from things bought usually peaks at the moment of purchase and declines rapidly. Needs which are met by the interaction of ourselves and nature are more deeply met, and there are wonderful surprises along the way. The truth of this will be evident to anyone who has ever made anything "from scratch". What seldom occurs to us (Someone doesn't want it to occur to us) is that an entire life can be constructed on this basis.

-The (re)integration of needs: not to the market for food, the spa for exercise, the doctor for healing, theatre for entertainment, school for learning, studio to create, church for inspiration, etc., but to the garden for all these at the same time.

-Enriching the garden by naturalizing useful and beautiful species and learning to incorporate them into our lives. We begin , of course, with the present and potential natural vegetation, to which may be added species introductions from similar areas worldwide; then slight modifications of the environment - micro-habitat enhancement - and the resultant possibilities for new species: a palette of plants, a Cornucopia* never available to previous generations.

A well-known biologist proposes "Planned biotic enrichment: It is within the power of science [you and me] not merely to hold down the rate of species extinction, but to reverse it. Among the principal topics of community ecology now under intensive study is the species packing problem...Theoretically, assertive equilibria can be planned that exceed any occurring in nature. Species might be drawn from different parts of the world..." (Edw. Wilson, "Applied Biogeography"). Wilson goes on to discuss " the creation of new (biotic) communities" and "ecosystem manipulation: the ultimate game... the very size of the world biota is itself a challenge that only generations more of study will encompass. The possibilities for ecosystem manipulation...offer creative work that is orders of magnitude even more extensive..."

-Hand labor. We all have two hands, one lifetime, twenty-four hours in every day. These are "democratic" factors. Working by hand on a small piece of land we can create a Paradise with relevance for all. Money, machines can't get us there any faster, in fact can't get us there at all, lead us astray.

We live during a narrow "window of opportunity". Having come, at last, to the realization that a revolutionary shift of consciousness and lifestyle is required, we find that we have only a few generations to do it in, before it will be too late to make a transition (environment degraded, resources depleted, species extinct, soils eroded/ polluted, population doubled...).

Our enemy is a paper tiger because it can't deliver the goods. The world waits for examples; to be shown, not told, a better way. Paradise Gardening is vastly more meaningful than the "biodome" experiment, and anyone can play.
We have been putting this off for too many lifetimes now.

You see the beauty of my proposal is
It needn't wait on general revolution
I bid you to a one-man revolution
The only revolution that is coming
(R. Frost, "Build Soil")

*Cornucopia, S.Facciola. Kampong Pub., 1870 Sunrise Dr., Vista CA 92084. Astounding new publication. Three thousand edible species, many more thousands of cultivars, sources of supply and information for each entry.

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This article was written about 20 years ago (which will account for a few dated references) - the result of several winter's reading with the goal of developing a philosophy to underpin the garden-making project which I had already begun. I don't have the heart to rewrite it, but in the interim have learned a few other things which bolster the argument, so I add them here:

What drives (over)consumption?

Civilization (in the original - latin - sense, from civitas, the state), mimics the natural ecosystem. Consider the 'trophic pyramid' - a large biomass of primary producers, above which a smaller mass of primary consumers, above that a still smaller mass of secondary consumers, etc. A lot of plants support a smaller number of cows, which support an even smaller number of lions...The civilized version of this has peasants and laborers on the bottom, above them succesively smaller layers of administrators and merchants, political leaders and capitalists

Consumption (other than a minor component of 'basic human needs' - whatever that may be) is about defining one's place (status) in the hierarchy of civilization. Consumption is communication. I am indebted for this insight originally to Mary Douglas The World of Goods, but by now it's pretty common knowledge - certainly to marketers. And, of course, the old saying 'keeping up with the Joneses' concisely expresses the same idea. Still, it's useful to look at it baldly: consumption is communication, it's about saying who we are, our status, our affiliations. But surely there is a way to communicate that doesn't involve burning down the house?

"Civilization originates in conquest abroad and repression at home. Each is an aspect of the other...politically 'weaker' peoples were confronted with a single set of alternatives...This historical fact [conquest] is then reflected as a law of development; as civilization accelerates, its proponents project their historical present as the progressive destiny of the entire human race...
No matter how far we range in time and space, from Teotihuacan to Angkor Vat the tale is always the same...the history of civilization repeats itself not as farce...but as tragedy. In the shadow of this tragedy, the achievements of civilization are reduced to their proper proportion. They were intended for the use and pleasure of the very few at the expense of the skill and labor of the many..."
Stanley Diamond In Search of the Primitive: A Critique of Civilization
'Primitive' people never voluntarily 'acculturate' (become civilized) - they've got too much to lose - but civilized persons, exposed to the primitive, sometimes 'go native.'

Twenty years on, I still hold firmly to the belief that the best way to address global warming, diversity loss and other planetary problems, the best way to address war, injustice and other social problems, and the best way for humans to live on the planet to realize our full physical, mental and spiritual potential are the same 'way'. Mountain Gardens is an effort to act out this theory - we are actors in a piece of 'visionary ecological theater'
 

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Handbook of Microbial Biofertilizers by M. K. Rai

Quite a bit over my head but I'm enjoying the book overall. She covers a wide range of topics.

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mad librettist

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Very nice read. He's saying what I was before I got interrupted by a well intentioned but poorly read 'knowledgeable' type giving advice in the amerindian thread - that weeds will pull minerals up for me - my reply - compost from crap depleted soils will not give your garden what it requires.

Are you sure someone is telling you that weeds alone will transform your garden overnight? Positive it wasn't someone who read Cocannouer's book and put it together with all the observations from years of gardening? Maybe someone read about Fokuoka-san's veggie garden (he used compost made with ash and daikon radish to build the soil).

I don't know of any "knowledgeable" types on your thread saying that, but it is true that pioneer plants give way to the next order of succession, and that improved soil fertility triggers the turnover. Weeds with deep roots will do wonders for you if properly cared for (thinned out). I know I have said that on your thread, and stand by it. But I also say mulch is the most important thing you can do, because you want fertility while you are young enough to enjoy it.

Weeds are incredible builders of natural fertility, but I'm pretty sure most people smart enough to harness them are also smart enough to mulch and use rock dusts if that's what the situation calls for (which it almost always does).

I think the best predictor of natural fertility is water. If an area gets too much water, the soil will be very poor (like the amazon). If too little water falls, you get a desert. But when water is just right, fertility follows - and with the weeds leading the way, it will follow.
 
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jaykush

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Weeds are incredible builders of natural fertility, but I'm pretty sure most people smart enough to harness them are also smart enough to mulch and use rock dusts if that's what the situation calls for (which it almost always does).

a proper system will have both living groundcover and mulch. in some cases one right on top of the other. you need weeds/plants to collect solar energy to "feed" the soil. without them, the soil fertility will decrease over time.
 

mad librettist

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a proper system will have both living groundcover and mulch. in some cases one right on top of the other. you need weeds/plants to collect solar energy to "feed" the soil. without them, the soil fertility will decrease over time.

Not only that, all of your inputs have greater and longer effect with these helpers on your side!
 

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