Questions regarding seed appearance

[C. Breeze]

has anyone noticed a difference in seed appearance according to pollen source, or is seed appearance determined exclusively by the mother? Will differnt males potentially produce different looking seeds in the same bud?

 

[MJPassion]

Different males will produce different seed appearances, yes. But I've seen differences using the same male/female combination as well.

I think it comes down to multiple factors... #1 being nutrient availability during seed development followed closely by environmental factors.

The seeds I've made outdoors seem to have thicker shells than indoor breed but I've not tested the same male/female combination both in & out doors so evidence is inconclusive in that regard.

 

[C. Breeze]

Right, obviously environmental factors that affect the mother will definitely affect seeds, but I would expect those differences to show up in size, shell thickness, viability, etc- not so much coloration/pattern. Age of seeds obviously affects color, but Have you seen the same male female combination throw both stripy and solid color beans also? Have you seen the same mother throw stripy beans with one donor and mottled or solid color beans with another donor? None of this is very important, just idle curiosity, I'm working with one male right now covering a number of differnt mothers and in particular why it occurred to ask was that all the beans he's made have come out stripy. 4 mothers so far, all different strains, 3 from beans that were either stripy or mottled and one from a bean that was solid color. All 4 moms are throwing out only stripy beans- and I was wondering what seed color/pattern observations people had made, that were parentage related moreso than environmentally influenced.

 

[Gram Paw smurf]

From what I've seen the mom.
Every time I see nicely developed ripe seed no matter what the dad the mom seems to produce the same.
I personally use it to identify seed from a few cuts once you know what the cut produces it always should imo.

cheers,...........................................gps