Questions for Sam the Skunkman on Hindu Kush Indicas

[darthvapor]

Sams,
With all your worldly travels and vast experiences, Im curious what you think a great smoke is. Ive read that your skunk dry shift is unbelevable, but what else do you like? How do you go about judging it if you dont have access lab equip? What sets great apart from good when you pick a variety?

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

What a person likes or needs is too personal, every person is different.
Indoors, Outdoors
Sativa, Indica, Hybrid
Type of high, Up or Down as well as a whole lot more.
Taste
Early maturing, Late
Big yields, or Quality more important?
Easy to maintain as a clone
Good for resin, as I don't smoke much bud....
NO CEILING, "Every" time you smoke you get higher...

-SamS

 

[Guest]

howdy Big H.....
don't know of a cut that matches the orig. PK ...though may be some hybrids of....in early 80's it was a staple that some folks I knew in the Panther Gap area of southern Humby county tended along with a 12th generation Chilean indica that we nic'ed the "Brain Weed".....supposed orgin of PK was a Vet bring back who resided outside of Petrolia and was also responsible for a pure Burmese line that worked very well closer to the coast........lived off wind generators and propane and rarely cleared less than 80 lb's/season........those were the daaaazzze..........

ganj on................

 

[Bluebeard]

Actually, I think the humboldt Purple Kush is still in existence. Among several other lines, the BCO purple kush came from the original creator of the Trainwreck, in Humboldt county.

 

[Guest]

that would be nice Bluebeard..........
now the TW is around and in pure F4 seed form......getting consistent and now being outcrossed on the Cheese cut and other selected fav's.....


ganj on....

 

[ilife]

Bluebeard,
Big Sur Holyweed did not have Indica blood at least not in the 60's and 70's when I lived very close to Big Sur. It was Sativas.
-SamS

Zacatecas Purple is a variety of marijuana that grows in a particular high mountain valley in the state of Zacatecas. When cured, the seeds from the colas have a distinctive purple hue, and the weed is extremely potent, especially if it is allowed to cure properly. In the late sixties a beatnik dealer planted a crop using some Zacatecas Purple seed in the mountains of Big Sur. The resultant weed came to be known as the Big Sur Holy Weed, and holy it was, too.

Quoted from Jerry Kamstra in the book WEED, 1974.


iLiFE

 

[Guest]

There are some pics of Big Sur Holyweed on this thread:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=41160

I've posted this info before, butHolyweed is an old Mexican cultivar cultivated in Cali:

The center of the marijuana-growing industry in the United States is in northern California, especially Humboldt County, where growers use the latest scientific methods to produce first-quality crops. California marijuana is not only as good as most foreign varieties but far more likely to reach American consumers in a relatively fresh state, at or near peak potency. Among the best California varieties is one known as Big Sur Holy Weed, which was originally grown from seeds of Zacatecas Purple, a rare Mexican strain.[13]

13. California marijuana: William Carlson, "Marijuana Crops Revived California Town," New York Times, 1l March 1979. See also John Dowdy, "Spice Valley, U.S.A.: Marijuana Moonshiners," Atlantic Monthly, January 1979, pp.6-24. (back)

from High Culture: Marijuana in the Lives of Americans by William Novak, Chapter 11. Varieties of Marijuana

http://www.psychedelic-library.org/high_culture11.htm

After looking round the net for more info, the story I found was that Holyweed is actually a Zacatecas Purple x Afghani (or Hindu Kush) hybrid bred by a Buddhist monk called Perry in 1963. (I'm not making this up, go Google it yourself!)

 

[joaquin386]

I have not given my genetics to anyone, in more then a decade, if anyone is using them to make seeds them it is without my knowledge.

-SamS

Hi SamS,

Reef said on his forum that you gave him some seeds from Mazar-i-Sharif and also some RKS (RoadSkill Skunk) to make his Double Skunk.

Salut.

 

[Bluebeard]

BH, That's the story I've always been familiar with also. The version from Danbo looks like a Mexican dominant indica hybrid.

I can't remember if it was the double skunk or not but I do remember there was an afghan x skunk hybrid made by reeferman that was supposed to be made from old school skunk seeds gifted by Sam. I bid on them. They got really expensive, way too rich for my blood, but had I won them I'd be really pissed right now.... He's also selling some seeds, described as being from a tetraploid skunk line from Sam also. The fact that it is actually a tetrafoliate and probably not a tetraploid is a red flag right there, along with a "black magic african" which is WAY too fast to be a central african, which he also said came from Sam. Ficking ridiculous...

 

[Guest]

Reeferman has been accused of less than honest practices many times, he was once a skinhead and is still found of opiates, whereas I've never seen anyone with any credibility accuse Sam of being dishonest.

I won't pretend to know anything about the source of reeferman's genes but I will say that I have no reason at all not to believe Sam and it woudn't be the first time reef has been less than honest.

To be fair to reeferan though, he doesn't actually say he got the seeds from Sam, merely that they are derived from seeds Sam collected. So I guess he's alluding to the Afghan Kush types Sam mentioned earlier in this thread.
http://www.reefermanseeds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9634

Mazar-I -shariff

This is one of the best true breeding indicas in our collection these seeds were collected by sam the skunkman in the region over 30 years ago and maintained ever since this is the first comercial offering of this strain to my knowledge it blew away everyone at the 420 cup in 06 where we simply called it lemmon kush It has a brilliant lemmon odor and frosty hard buds it is very easy to grow a very stout indica that can be closely planted in tables this is very different from patrollia headstash in that it is a full on kush type not typicle of most afghani strains

8-9 weeks floweing

I'm sure Sam is (sadly) used to folks making false claims about such things. The legal status of cannabis sadly means it is a seedy business with no regulation or standards.

Black Magica African, that's supposed to be from central Africa and be a 20-week plus equatorial sativa. DJ Short described is as the strongest ever and said he had never been able to obtain seeds but that it was one of the very few indigenous varieties he was interested in acquiring and working with.

 

[joaquin386]

Well from all the reading of the mazar-i-sharif you can clearly get confused on the origins of the seeds.

I though that reef an SamS where really close from what I have been reading over his forum.

 

[bigherb]

mt nectar thanks for the good word .those were the days for sure i wish i was born.brain weed sounds like somthin id lov to hav in my jar.much respect to those brave souls much lov to all our vets and their findings.

 

[bigherb]

hi sam the man i was wondering which kush strain old school or current is your favorite.

 

[Dignan]

Sam,

Would you say you got screwed over in the cannabis industry? Cuz it sure seems to me like you should be one loaded dude, living high on the hog in a mansion somewhere.

Dignan

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

If I had a dollar for every Skunk #1, or hybrid that has been copied and sold I could buy the USA elections and have plenty of change to do something good for the world.
I did not receive anything from any breeders for them copying my work or using it to make their own hybrids. They even steal my varieties names. That's the way it is.
Maybe it is my own fault for making true breeding varieties instead of hybrids? I though it was the right thing to do...
I am glad they are filling the world with seeds, I wish some "breeders" would spend more time and resources collecting genetics from traditional Cannabis areas to add to the Drug Cannabis Gene Pool, and using these to make IBL's or hybrids that were not just a reshuffle of varieties & genes around for 25 years. I wish the price of seeds was not so high.
But all in all I am happy, busy counting my Billions, and working on my next idea to free the worlds smokin' masses.

-SamS

 

[charlie garcia]

If I had a dollar for every Skunk #1, or hybrid that has been copied and sold I could buy the USA elections and have plenty of change to do something good for the world.
I did not receive anything from any breeders for them copying my work or using it to make their own hybrids. They even steal my varieties names. That's the way it is.
Maybe it is my own fault for making true breeding varieties instead of hybrids? I though it was the right thing to do...
I am glad they are filling the world with seeds, I wish some "breeders" would spend more time and resources collecting genetics from traditional Cannabis areas to add to the Drug Cannabis Gene Pool, and using these to make IBL's or hybrids that were not just a reshuffle of varieties & genes around for 25 years. I wish the price of seeds was not so high.
But all in all I am happy, busy counting my Billions, and working on my next idea to free the worlds smokin' masses.

-SamS

Sam u can be proud sir. Your contribution is been and still is great to all of us. Thx

Let me humbling agree with your last sentence which I think is the key for future despite all things lost already... "I wish some "breeders" would spend more time and resources collecting genetics from traditional Cannabis areas to add to the Drug Cannabis Gene Pool, and using these to make IBL's or hybrids that were not just a reshuffle of varieties & genes around for 25 years. I wish the price of seeds was not so high."

 

[joaquin386]

SamS,

Since we are here and we are kind of taking to you can you tell us what is your favourite strain at these moment of the so call Hybrid Era.

386

 

[cway]

IBL question

IBL question

Sam,

I travel alot and im interested in what you say about making a IBL from landraces.. Amongst my travels as a GI I have collected many beans and plan to keep traveling to acquire more. My ? is to make a true IBL do you just take say abut 100 beans from a particular regoin, grow them out and just select the best and keep inbreeding or do you just use one male or use many males?


Thanks for the input.. Like juaqin said seems you are taking to us right now so fiugured Id ask..

PS can wait to grow out those Thai x Skunk beans that i got...

 

[Guest]

Good history here Sam!

Oh boy,we talking old days............
Man i ounce had an AFGHAN in 83 that WAS
the best plants ive ever grown besides this asian girl...
THis ganni produced seeds as BIG as your pinky nail NO JOKE!!!
The fucking buds where fist sized and covered in a golden resin........
NEVER again will i see ganni plants like i had,to bad i was not into cloning??
Made inbread seed but ended up mixing other genes in when i was young..
Had i NOT done that,and maybe without my HOT ASSED HUMIDITY aclimating
them into lettuse, i could have well had the best ganni plants in the world..
Plus indoor lighting was not my thing????...WHAT A LOSS.
Hearing what you have been threw SAM,you would have been proud of my ganni!!!

AS for the Asian girl,the stuff was a HUGE YIELDER producing rock hard buds
totally covered in small but deadly trichomes,christmass tree shaped with numureous
bud sites from head to toe......THIS SHIT was so potent you could NOT smoke
a doobie more than a few puffs and the joint would jam up and stop from the resin~!
You could NOT smoke and burn a joint more than one third the way down period.
Talk about a BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ total body and mind fuck,oh those days
where the BEST i EVER had growing weed,had i saved that gene pool i just still may
have had the best possible sativa known to man kind PERIOD.

Love the history,but MISS the REAL slamming genetics.............
Been there and DONE that!!!!.......but didnt put my mind to saving?
Being 20 som'm in 83' you dont really have a mind for bussiness....
Again SAM you would have been proud to see what a sativa i had in my day!!
How life changes????????

 

[GorillaGrower]

SamS,

Since we are here and we are kind of taking to you can you tell us what is your favourite strain at these moment of the so call Hybrid Era.

386

good question.. actually I would like to add... given your great point about breeders just copying.... which breeder co.s deserve our money most right now?