Question for those who’ve grown trifoliate seedlings.

[Spaventa]

I’ve seen mention of Trifoliate seedlings that revert to normal as it matures or when flowered, often producing little resin. My question to anyone who experienced this is did the seedling have 2 cotyledons or 3 when it first germinated?

 

[SolarLogos]

I harvested a Vietnamese Black that was a trifoliate or whorled phyllotaxy, but I assume this is what you meant? She didn't revert back to normal and turned out to be the most potent of all the VB I put out (around 10 or so).

 

[revegeta666]

I had a few of them with 3 cotyledons over the years. Never noticed any decline in quality or resin. None of them got back to normal either.

 

[wh1p3dm34t]

follow this ongoing thread :

Club Tikól

 

[Spaventa]

Ah thanks guys, this is what I wanted to hear!
I found one recently is why I ask. 3 cotyledons, 3 nodes now, all trifoliate.

 

[wh1p3dm34t]

i have on 2 cotyledons but turned into cristata mutation i dont know what is the terms fasciated stem maybe

 

[Spaventa]

i have on 2 cotyledons but turned into cristata mutation i dont know what is the terms fasciated stem maybe

I believe 2 cotyledons = Diploid with 20 chromosomes.
I now believe (based on the input here and elsewhere) 3 cotyledons = Triploid with 30 chromosomes.
I think if you get whirled leaves, the odd trifoliate node or two on a plant that started with 2 cotyledons, it’s environment and transient.

 

[wh1p3dm34t]

did you read buddhaseeds thread about that?

New study about polyploid

NEW STUDY ON POLYPLOID For those whom don't know us, we are Buddha Seeds; a Spanish seed bank focused on the research and development of cannabis strains. We are especially well-known for our autoflowering varieties. We have been interested in polyploid for a long time since, it´s supposed...

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[Spaventa]

Yes, a post or two in there lead me to ask about trifoliate seedlings reverting to normal growth.
I’ve heard the hype about more terpenes, increased resin and yield. It’s a Jack Herer x Black Domina so I’m looking forward to harvest!

 

[wh1p3dm34t]

interesting, both i mentioned are jack herer crosses too

 

[Spaventa]

That is interesting

 

[Rastafarout]

There is a ratio of 5. -2.5 per 100 in the Transkei , just find them bushier and yield more

 

[Rastafarout]

interesting, both i mentioned are jack herer crosses too

That’s weird in that I can taste ssh in some Transkei phenos

Edit in that there’s tri’s in JH?

 

[wh1p3dm34t]

exactly one is haze special x jack herer (nevils haze x kc606) X ({Northern Lights #5 x Haze C} x {Skunk #1 x Haze C})

other is (c99xblueberry) X jack herer

 

[wh1p3dm34t]

in that there’s tri’s in JH?

actually i didn t see yet in jack herer( the male i used was a 2 cotyledon normal plant), only in these offsprings quite frequenty
but soon i will get a few packs of reg jacks and we will see

 

[GMT]

I did a thread on mine, everything you'd want to ask has the answer in this thread

Bruised Nuts

Well it's been a while, and the pics in my last thread are gone, so I thought I'd make a clean start. Bruised Nuts is my trifoliar line. Solid indica, no hermies and of course 3 branches per node. Lets start with some youngens. and one thats been topped going into fower This is a...

www.icmag.com

 

[Spaventa]

I did a thread on mine, everything you'd want to ask has the answer in this thread

Bruised Nuts

Well it's been a while, and the pics in my last thread are gone, so I thought I'd make a clean start. Bruised Nuts is my trifoliar line. Solid indica, no hermies and of course 3 branches per node. Lets start with some youngens. and one thats been topped going into fower This is a...

www.icmag.com

correct me if I’m wrong but your thread is about a line you bred from a “mutant branch” from a regular diploid? With presumably the usual 20 chromosomes?
My interest is in true, naturally occurring, stable, sterile, 30 chromosome Triploids. They have many advantages over normal diploids for a clone mother.

 

[GMT]

You can't tell a diploid from a triploid from a tetraploid just by looking at them. The whole tri's are triploid thing is just bro science.
The trifoliate thing is due to additional copies of the lea13 gene. Breed more copies into the offspring and you get extra branches per node. Nothing to do with ploidy at all.

 

[Spaventa]

I agree that not all trifoliate are triploid, that was my point about yours. I suspect you can tell by the cotyledons since they are in the plant embryo before germination. If they are trifoliate cotyledons inside the seed, it must be triploid and have extra chromosomes. Bro science but it’s served me well so far.

 

[GMT]

Didn't you even look at the thread I posted? All my tris start out as Tri in the seed. My quads start as quads in the seed. It has nothing to do with ploidy. It's a gene count thing. Your logic simply isn't logical. Where are you getting this from? Or are you simply making stuff up? Read my thread, or just look at the pictures and count the cotyledons. I tried to be nice, but you're talking nonsense.