Do any of you folks really feed 30 ml for 3-4 ft plants?I have used to PBP grow for years but for some reason have stayed with tiger bloom.I can see just feeding with 15 ml is going to be a lot more expensive than tiger bloom but that's fine if it works better than tiger bloom.I stopped using FF grow about 10 years ago because its just a little harsh on little girls IMO.I've used 30 ml grow on large indoor plants a few times just haven't tried the bloom until now
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Question for PBP bloom users
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Yes, if running only pbp I use at full strength in the height of bloom. If using additives, I mix those first as stated on the bottles, then top up to desired ppm/ec level with pbp.
I grow in happy frog soil with pbp. I add in Foxfarm Bigbloom, silica blast, calmag, sweet, once a week with hydroplex, and use PBP soil at 15ml. Depending on strains I go up to 20ml. Have never seen any burning.
I don't measure ppm/ec but if I did, Lester's advice is dead on the money. Although, I do mix my supplements a lot lighter than the bottle recommends.
I don't measure ppm/ec but if I did, Lester's advice is dead on the money. Although, I do mix my supplements a lot lighter than the bottle recommends.
I ru pbp grow and bloom in all my mediums. Promix rockwool cubes and coco. For my tray of forum cookies in rockwool cubes 3 wks into flower i mixed today.. 400 ml pbp bloom 200 ml calmag and 1/4 tb of super bud blaster(similar to beastie bloomz)
Man I fed 12 plants at 15 ml per gallon and used up more than half of a quart bottle,at 30 ml that's going to be a full qt every time.Thats crazy it cant be that much better than tiger bloom.At 12 plants a bottle of tiger bloom will last the whole cycle and still have a lot left.I don't know.I like a lot of runoff but not that much!
I've been using PBP Bloom for soil (1-4-5) for a long time. After the stretch of week 1-2 in flower I use one tablespoon every watering from week 3-7. I'll supplement with liquid guano (0-4-0) weeks 4-7 as well. If plants start yellowing out too early or show a cal/mag issue I'll give them a teaspoon of CalMag (2-0-0) to fix the issue.
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I am not a fan of Tiger Bloom, although concentrated and bottle lasts forever, I can taste the stuff if the buds. Also Tiger bloom is a flower booster, fox farm has regular bloom that should be run. PBP is a base nute.
PBP is a really good, user friendly fert, but it does take a little more because it's 80% organic. With that being said, if you can get over that, I promise you, you will be happy once you dial it in with your environment.
I'm not a fan of Tiger bloom either. Years ago, I tried to switch over to Foxfarm nutes from botanicare and the final product was no where near as good as the flowers I grew with PBP. Not even close...
If you want, I can give you my fert schedule. You can tweak it to your liking or whatever. I do use a lot of supplements. So if you're trying to keep it more simple, you might not wanna go thru all that.
I tried using just straight PBP and while the flowers and results were still very good, using supplements, my yeilds, trichs production, and overall plant vigor is way better with some supplements, from what I've seen on my end anyway.
I'm not a fan of Tiger bloom either. Years ago, I tried to switch over to Foxfarm nutes from botanicare and the final product was no where near as good as the flowers I grew with PBP. Not even close...
If you want, I can give you my fert schedule. You can tweak it to your liking or whatever. I do use a lot of supplements. So if you're trying to keep it more simple, you might not wanna go thru all that.
I tried using just straight PBP and while the flowers and results were still very good, using supplements, my yeilds, trichs production, and overall plant vigor is way better with some supplements, from what I've seen on my end anyway.
Actually it was bought by Scott's.
etncrew
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ACTUALLY Scotts and Monsanto have been in bed together for a long time, but don't take my word for it.
http://news.monsanto.com/press-release/monsanto-and-scotts-miracle-gro-expand-long-standing-partnership
http://news.monsanto.com/press-release/monsanto-and-scotts-miracle-gro-expand-long-standing-partnership
I just scored 1 gallon grow and bloom for 57.95 each.How does that compare to your prices?Its a lot more cash,maybe 3 or 4 times more so I'm hoping for killer results.Do you all use it every other watering or every watering?I know I use the grow on large plants every watering 15 ML.30 ml towards the end
I'm in soil and use it every watering at 15ml along with supplements.
ChasingGreen
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PBP by the gallon are $50 each at my store. Ask for a 10% discount or a "web price" and they may give you a 10% discount. I use it every other watering, along with Hydroplex (a MUST if you're using PBP IME), Calmag, and Terpinator. I start at 7ml per gallon and work up to 15ml per gallon max with additives. Never had burn issues, but I have had underfeeding issues.
Any killer additives I can use the last 40 days or so?I use calmag about every third watering,not every time like the PBP makers say.I do use FF Happy Frog mixed in with my soil.I like to mix F.F. ocean forest and roots organic for a better medium than just one or the other.Or maybe I did way to much LSD in the 70s
ChasingGreen
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As already stated (no offense man...) Hydroplex and Terpinator are the additives I'd recommend.
I am 90% hydro and a devout PBP user and love the stuff I can afford to pay for any nutes but this is the stuff I stick with.
15 ml grow or bloom depending on light cycle
5 ml calmag+ with RO water
2 ml Liquid Karma (a must)
2 ml silica blast
2 ml canna cannazyme
1 ml sm90
1-3 ml hydroplex in late bloom beginning week 4 bloom
Tried the soil formula in 100% hydroton ebb drip last run and it was crap stick with the regular pbp bloom 2-3-5 for rock hard nuggertz!
15 ml grow or bloom depending on light cycle
5 ml calmag+ with RO water
2 ml Liquid Karma (a must)
2 ml silica blast
2 ml canna cannazyme
1 ml sm90
1-3 ml hydroplex in late bloom beginning week 4 bloom
Tried the soil formula in 100% hydroton ebb drip last run and it was crap stick with the regular pbp bloom 2-3-5 for rock hard nuggertz!
