Ok so I'm going to spray a couple of my girls with colloidal silver to get pollen, lets use strain A and strain B as references so here's my question if I pollinate strain A with B, or pollinate strain B with A, is there going to be a difference in the strain I produce?? Like if strain a was bomb as f but not high yeild, but strain b is dank too and high yeild but I want more genetic leaning towards strain A do I pollinate strain A to get those closer genetics, how does this work. Please help I want to make a superior strain!!!
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Question about breeding a new strain
- Thread starter Roor22
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why not do both and show us the results? not much more work, 4 plants instead of two...
bigbadbiddy
Well-known member
You can't know beforehand is the answer.
You are basically asking which plant should be the pollen donor and which plant should be the recipient.
There is no answer to this question, at all.
I believe from DJ Short's work came the believe that the better results are usually achieved if the male is indica leaning and the female sativa leaning (if you are crossing indica and sativa).
But I am quite certain that this is mostly a belief, a feeling. Doubt this is fact/science.
Truth is you will have to try both combinations, plant the made seeds and grow out as large of a number of them is possible.
Analyze the harvest from that batch and make your decision on which one worked better, then take it from there.
You are basically asking which plant should be the pollen donor and which plant should be the recipient.
There is no answer to this question, at all.
I believe from DJ Short's work came the believe that the better results are usually achieved if the male is indica leaning and the female sativa leaning (if you are crossing indica and sativa).
But I am quite certain that this is mostly a belief, a feeling. Doubt this is fact/science.
Truth is you will have to try both combinations, plant the made seeds and grow out as large of a number of them is possible.
Analyze the harvest from that batch and make your decision on which one worked better, then take it from there.
Sounds like I have to learn the hard way, guess the next 6 months I'm gonna be busy, I hope I pull a good strain
this is a lot more work because you need to keep both pollination possibilities seperated. So you need 2 grow rooms otherwise the pollen from plant A will go to plant A too & the pollen from plant B will go to plant B too.
Siever
Misting water on pollinated plants a few hours after pollinating will neutralize the rest of the pollen.
It's actually double the work I will still have to pheno hunt 2 different strains now to find the one I want so instead of pheno hunting 20 from one batch I would have to do 10 of each or 40 total and I don't have room for 40 plants plus 80 2 cuttings from each plant to pheno hunt but I will see what the best 10 seeds from each batch come out with.
meltybubble
Member
You will have much more variety doing it like Chunky said.
Much better chance of finding the traits you are looking for.
Better "hope" this way.
Much better chance of finding the traits you are looking for.
Better "hope" this way.
You will have much more variety doing it like Chunky said.
Much better chance of finding the traits you are looking for.
Better "hope" this way.
I am going to do both strains but like I said instead of growing 20 from a single batch I will be only growing 10 seeds from 2 batches of seeds, I don't have the room to be doing 40+ plants
meltybubble
Member
Hey Roor22, I always think if only I could sprout them all, do some very selective, selecting. lol
Yes we do what we can, much luck with things, I am sure you will find nice plants.
Respect.
Yes we do what we can, much luck with things, I am sure you will find nice plants.
Respect.
Do you realistically have enough space to grow out all the progeny seeds?
Doesn't really matter though you will have fun along the way!
Results will depend on the stability of the parents. Could be a wide range of different phenotypes if parents are heterozygous!
Doesn't really matter though you will have fun along the way!
Results will depend on the stability of the parents. Could be a wide range of different phenotypes if parents are heterozygous!
Yep... gotta go both directions...
Check this though...
Since the genes you seek are in two female plants & you'll be using silver to reverse 1 or both females...
The resulting seed should be very close to the same. After all, the genes that are recombining are identical either way you go.
Check this though...
Since the genes you seek are in two female plants & you'll be using silver to reverse 1 or both females...
The resulting seed should be very close to the same. After all, the genes that are recombining are identical either way you go.
If you you take 2 strains and crossed them both ways like this:
Strain A (male) X Strain B (female)
Strain A (female) X Strain B (male)
What you've done is what they call a Reciprocal Cross.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_cross
The outcome should be close. But anything can happen.
Give it a shot.
Strain A (male) X Strain B (female)
Strain A (female) X Strain B (male)
What you've done is what they call a Reciprocal Cross.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_cross
The outcome should be close. But anything can happen.
Give it a shot.
Aquaponicos
Member
If strain A shows a lot of stability and strain B doesn't or vice versa then I don't think it would matter what combination ya choose. Well, maybe the most stable of the strains should be the 'mom.' But you would only know which one is more stable by growing out the s1 generations. ( I'm just using what I understand from Tom Hill's opinion on the matter, so take it with a huge grain of salt.) I say grow out the s1 generation of each strain and if strain A and say strain K show the most stability, then use those two. Like if strain A's s1 generation has 6 out of 10 that seem similar with strain A and strain B's s1 generation has 2 of 10 that are similar with strain B and strain C has 9 out of 10 that are similar with strain C then, you would want to use strain A and C as the cross. What strain should be the "father" and which one should be the 'mother' I'm not even close to being sure about. But, what I'd do is have the most stable strain be the mother, cuz she's the one birthing the seeds. My two cents, hope it helps.
