purple stem pheno

[3legdog]

I hear breeders & growers speak of the "purple stem pheno" ...usually as a desirable trait does anyone have a pic of their purple stem & what exactly constitutes it as the "psp". I m sure there are many variations & honestly i have never sought a strains pheno for it's stem color but one i have been growing has purple lines on all the clones/stems...would this be considered a "psp" ?


Hope this is not too dumb of a question i have several new strains coming up & really need a better understanding of this trait. Thanks for any help...advice Peace 3ld

 

[weedluva]

Dude
I dont think its stupid at all. I have a 3 day old in a new hydro setup thats doing the same thing,but the whole stem is purple. Maybe some real exp. will chime in and tell the tale!! Funny too its the only one doing it!!??>

 

[Guest]

These are some Shaman's.
They have extremely woody branches.
The new growth comes out grayish-purple.
The buds are STRAIGHT purple.

And yes, she smokes as good as she looks.
Smell of sweet licorice and a full body stone.

 

[3legdog]

Thanks weedluva :smile: appreciate ya stopping by. One thing to remember with a strain you have not worked with & especially with a new set-up deficiencies in potassium can cause early purpling... so keep an eye on any new/young plants for deficiencies. You said it was the only one though so mabey tiz the "psp" ? Keep us posted i'd like to hear if it stays purple but plants that young have a tendency to show a bit of stem purpling..ime anyway best of luck Peace 3ld

edit: wow Legit thats a beaut. & solid purple looking Nice to hear ya found the goods :smile: & thanks for sharing that info

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the compliments.

This paticular Shaman is all BITCH!!!!!!!
She will nute lock on your ass and laugh at you while she's doing it.
She needs more love than my wife...haaa

 

[Guest]

some strains go purple from temp. being too low, seen this on Oaxacan and Kona x Jack H.

I would raise the temp in the cab by 5 deg. F and the Kojack would go green, 18hrs l8r, ac kicks on... back to purple, its gentics AND 3leg you hit the nail right on the head on def. keep an eye out, read up on the strain, all good advice. take your own advice. as far as a psp, they are purple from the get-go, youll know when u see it, purple stripes is normal for most the strains ive come across.

hope this helps

 

[Guest]

looks like alot of stress to me ,, plants purple from stress and it is not a good thing ... although most plants have a skunk gene in it's make up ,, and there is purpling in the stalks with those shunk related , or plants with afgani in them turn purple ,, but if it's not genetic then it is stress or not such of a good thing .. i have blueberrys that have purple in them , but not alot .. the pic from 3legdog looks like genetic purpleing witch is normal , somewhat ,, i really wished there was a for sure answer to your question ..

 

[DankBank]

There IS a for sure way to find out.

And 3LG is right. Most of the time, plants with purple stems (--especially-- if they're woody) are reacting to nute problems. It can also be a combination of nute issues, being rootbound, or salt buildup. The way to test whether or not you've got purp from DNA or from problems is to transplant the plant into a larger pot with HIGH QUALITY (no wood products, plenty of perlite and/or vermiculite) dirt and make sure you don't have any PH issues. Also make sure the temps don't fall below 75F. If you STILL have purps a week after transplant, it's probably genetic. On the other hand, if the plant is purple because of problems, you'll see fresh new growth on the transplanted girl within a week, and it will be green w/o the woody sort of texture in the stem. My experience has been that 9 out of 10 times you'll find it wasn't genetic. But that doesn't mean crap. All it means is that most of the strains I've come across weren't purple lol.
DB

 

[Guest]

So this "woody" type branch is a bad thing?
This Shaman has been purple/woody it's entire life.
It's mother is alive and well.

 

[MrChronic]

i see some yellow leaves on your shaman, might be nute issues. give DB's method a try, get yourself a PH pen to know what ph you are feeding her, too high or too low isn't good.. which would bring us back to the purp stems

I had a NL#5 that gew with a purple stem and purple undertones to the leaves, this was DNA, i know this because every clone i have seen of the #5 does the same, in dirt or water. you can actually see her here, in the middle.




Ither way i like the purp on that shaman, nute problems or not, looks nice.

 

[Guest]

She just went through a transplant.
She rooted a 3 gallon and now in a 5 gallon.
Her PH is at 6.3.
I know for sure she is a purple, because I have seen the fruit.
I was just concerned about the "woodiness".
The clones root well, so no problems there.
It might be good for a dealer (which I am not) because the stems wiegh a ton!

 

[MrChronic]

boo to heavy sticks. i keep all my stems around for iso extraction.

 

[Guest]

same ere chronic,
wish i could upload my frugal coffee table lol, 3 jars, buds, stem, and, roaches, lol
QWiso though

 

[Guest]

btw the buds jar is now and USUALLY empty grrrr

 

[3legdog]

Nice to see some posting their experience many thanks for everyones input i knew there was more to this than i thought & double to DB for posting that tip on transplanting...very nice idea.

Legit woody stems are usually not sought after & the one in my pic is hollow. I have for many years sought the hollow stems after reading breeders thoughts about it yrs' ago...not sure if the woodiness is really a concern other than weight(unless it's nut./uptake problem) & if your pheno suites your smokn' taste who cares right .? my thoughts anyway

And you fellas can have that quick wash stem stuff i have enough trouble getting motivated to run the bubblebags...even when i have ample material so 'stems by the pound hit the ground' ...but hey as always to each their own & i need to stop being sooo lazy

Keep the thoughts coming all are appreciated Peace 3ld

 

[weedluva]

jurys still out

jurys still out

well for a better description the purple stem also has purple shaded leafs as well. Its shorter than the other plants in the hydro setup [at least 1 inch] and developing twice as fast. today is the start of the fifth day and the others are already 6 inches tall but the lil purple bugger is 5 inches ,has wider leaves and is already developing the perm. leaves.its also a darker green shade. a real oddball to say the least!! its bag seed so i could have mixed in a off the wall strain. buds i got looked like the purple haze series pictures online. hope this helps clear things up a little. so who nows. does any of this sound familiar?? thanx for the input in advance.
God bless and peace.

 

[Guest]

Sounds like a Indica dominent pheno.
Have fun with her.

 

[DankBank]

So this "woody" type branch is a bad thing?
This Shaman has been purple/woody it's entire life.
It's mother is alive and well.

It can be, but just because things are woody doesn't mean it IS bad. It's just a very common symptom when things aren't right i.e. PH or mag. levels being off. As mentioned in other posts, the woody thing can be genetic, & that's not a bad thing at all. Again, a transplant is a great way to test things out. Of course, if there IS a problem and you transplant into a medium that is exactly the same as you are already using, you're going to see the same problems continue and one could make the mistake of assuming it's genetic.

Good soil is crucial, and it seems that often I see novices using crappy dirt. One dead giveaway with crappy soil is a noticable amount of wood product i.e. small bark dust sort of chips. Any soil with a noticable amount of wood product is bunk in my opinion. Also - regarding my "novice" comment... please allow me to clarify that I'm not calling anyone here a novice - I only mean to explain that inferior soil is used by newbies all too often. The typical store bought "cheapo" mix is usually just that - cheapo. Best soil I've ever seen is black gold ORANGE label (organic). It costs more than most others, and it's well worth it. If you can get it, use it. I have also used other more expensive mixes which I did not like as well, so price is not always an indicator, but it's a good one most of the time.

Take care,
DB

 

[weedluva]

Thanks for the heads up!

Thanks for the heads up!

Thanks for the heads up guys. Looks like it was nute issues in my case looks like the rockwool was getting coated with a thick white film[to much ph down] So i rinsed for about half a hour with 5.4 ph water and that solved the problem. Its still growing twice as fast and the leafs are getting wider. Looks like it maybe indica wild root. Ill have to watch the skid row-thai stick combo next time i play with my kids!!! thanks again God bless and Peace