[FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]EDIT 28%+ THC ! (can I change the thread title?)
This is a post from 20'Thai, enjoy:
[/FONT]""PURPLE DURBAN POISON
In 1979 a once only shipment of Purple Durban Poison came in that was something else. This stuff was extraordinary to say the least. Rich Violet purple in appearance it looked like nothing else that had ever been imported before. Even the buds were not too compressed and looked a picture when pulled of the top of the small bricks they came in. The aroma was a spicy acrid and aniseed aroma with rich but subtle hashish undertones. This bud freaked everyone out that smoked it. IT was the only bud that I could truly class as hallucigenic. Heavy smokers would see altering colors and have vivid audible hallucinations on it all the time. It would get you so stoned that you didn't know WTF was happening no matter how hardened a smoker you were. Novices would have fully blown visual and audible hallucinations on it. In the brief period that it was available, many novice and weak minded smokers were rushed to casualty wards of hospitals here in a state of absolute delirium and panic. All had to have a shot of pure Valium to calm them down and numerous had to be admitted for 'observation' for weeks before they were released. This was reported through all NEWS media at the time and traced up by the Police from the excessive amount of hospitalization cases that had occurred. They tracked down numerous small samples of it and had them analysed in fear of them being chemically laced. The report came back and all samples tested consistently in excess of 28%THC with absolutely ZERO other psychoactive ingredients in them. It was a pure cannabinoidal delight - I loved it, it made me more intact rather than freak me out. Others were freaking out into the Twilight zone with it, I was smoking it and spending days frolicking through the extremes of THC-land with a smile on my face that I have never forgotten. This stuff was simply unbelievable. I have not had anything as good as that since those days. it was the only dope that has ever made me feel like I was a detached observer of my surrounding reality. Like I was outside of my body looking at what I could see with my eyes and at the same time I even see myself in that same view. Freaky is not the word, a far more befitting phrase would be 'divine fumar - heavenly smoke'. I saw mates who had smoked near everything in their time and who were use to smoking 7g of the finest homegrown fully matured sativa per day melt like wax on this stuff. Heart palpitations, hyperventilation, cold sweats and white faced on just 2 small cones mixed with 30% tobacco. All the bad initial effects of the body and mind suddenly realising what an overdose of THC they'd just been given was followed by a 4hour period bliss that would leave them breathless tapering off for another 2 hours after that.
The strangest thing about this dope was that I grew it here for 4 successive seed produced generations in the following 4 years, and NOT ONCE did it turn purple, and not ONCE did it ever reach the bizarre levels of potency that it parent bud had. This was quite a revelation to me and it made me understand something that very few do about cannabis. For this to happen to me, it meant that there MSUT be some method of growing cannabis that may even be related to the locality in which it is grown but most certainly to the technique used, that makes it grow in a manner which it normally is not accustomed to. In manner which extenuates, compounds and multiplies its psychoactive capability. I also concluded that whatever method or technique this was, it not only increased the potency of the product dramatically, but also its visual appearance and aromatic properties. For none of the subsequent generations that I grew even had the aroma that the original bud did. After the 3rd generation grow it suddenly dawned on me and everyone else who grew it that I knew, that what we had was basically the very same genepool as the ordinary Durban Poison that was sold everywhere. These plants grew the same as they did, they had the same potency as the ordinary stuff did, and to add salt to the wound, they even reverted back to the plain strong aniseed aroma of the normal stuff. So much so, that had I lined anyone up to sample buds from wither after the 3rd generation, they would in no way think that either was a different strain... impossible. They were absolutely identical.
So somewhere deep in the heart of Africa lived a cultivator of extreme cannabis growing prowess that had somehow learnt or acquired a manner of growing cannabis that most any of us all would give a leg to know. What the likes of all known breeders of today strive for, and what they endlessly toil over to achieve by means of producing a SUPER SEED, is not the way to go about producing truly SUPERWEED. Any decent genepool of cannabis already has what is needed buried deep inside its RNA, this is not the realm to be looking for to find such divine excellence. The way to bring it about is to discover and master what is needed by the plant itself to aid 'it' in bringing it out of itself.
As with all truths, they will stand up to any test put to them.
This is why many of the imported pure and unlaced sativa that so many often talk about and have also been mentioned here by Charlie, Budular and others, can be grown by any decent grower in a good manner, YET they are never as strong or as devastatingly potent as the original bud from which these seeds came from. They too were obviously grown by someone who has a far greater grasp on the art of growing cannabis than any of us here have or that anyone in Amsterdam has...for no one there can produce this kind of bud either. Shanty can't, Breeder Steve can't, EdRosenthal most certainly can't, DJShort can't and I can go on and on. None of them or us can. Yet there are unknown invisible growers that can.
I would also like to add that as more time goes by, we are finding that the secrets these marvelous growers had are being lost through the lack of them practicing anymore. With the advent of the indoor garden which now supplies people with their own stash whereas originally they'd be buying these top farmers crops, plus a world wide crackdown on cannabis which means that the old fields of Thai, Limbo and Mexican sativa cannot be grown in fear of discovery and disposal by authorities due to excessively long growing cycles; everyone has now reverted to the fast flowering new Age hybrids and all current known practices that produce a lot in a short period of time. The name of the game everywhere has become 'speed' to assure a sale. Whereas in yesteryear the name of the game that assured a sale was 'superior quality' GIVEN that all outdoor crops would be ready for sale in a specific area at the same time. So to assure you ate for the next year if you where a competing farmer you had to quickly learn way to make what you had better than everyone else’s produce of similar genetics.
Wherever there's a vital need, man will find a way to fulfill it irrespective of the level of complexity of the solution required. So long as the need is 'speed', then I'm afraid that 'superior quality' will only be a thing of the past as we forget about the art and focus on the science.
I pity the new smokers of today who have never and will never experience 'divine fumar', is all I have to say.
Basically, all the Thai sticks pre mentioned, the LumboGold and Red, the Indian Hemp Sticks and the Special Durban, would all be of an outrages level of potency either way you look at it. Crumbling so tiny that you could not even see them in a joint before you rolled it closed would plaster you for 4 to 8 hours. Call it what you want, plastered, zombified, stoned shitless, hammered... whatever. Fact was that NONE of the strains we grow today with the exception of an extreme few, and that's only when they're outdoor grown in the ground and the plant left unclipped, do we come even a little close to the potency of the yesteryear nukes in a joint. I cannot recall how long it has been since I last rolled a joint and used a few speckles of bud ( I mean like the equivalent of 6 match heads crumbled up) that any of today’s smokers would not even look at, let alone consider making a full dose joint with it, that would blow me away and have me plastered to the point where I could not talk, move or think for at least 4 hours, before I could then get up to have a sip of water to quench the dessert in my mouth and begin to return back to Earth over the next 2 or more hours after that.
...and you're asking me if those old-time imported buds were stronger than today’s dopes are you??
LOLOLOL
As John McEnroe once said..."You can't be serious?"
I rest my case your honour.
This is a post from 20'Thai, enjoy:
[/FONT]""PURPLE DURBAN POISON
In 1979 a once only shipment of Purple Durban Poison came in that was something else. This stuff was extraordinary to say the least. Rich Violet purple in appearance it looked like nothing else that had ever been imported before. Even the buds were not too compressed and looked a picture when pulled of the top of the small bricks they came in. The aroma was a spicy acrid and aniseed aroma with rich but subtle hashish undertones. This bud freaked everyone out that smoked it. IT was the only bud that I could truly class as hallucigenic. Heavy smokers would see altering colors and have vivid audible hallucinations on it all the time. It would get you so stoned that you didn't know WTF was happening no matter how hardened a smoker you were. Novices would have fully blown visual and audible hallucinations on it. In the brief period that it was available, many novice and weak minded smokers were rushed to casualty wards of hospitals here in a state of absolute delirium and panic. All had to have a shot of pure Valium to calm them down and numerous had to be admitted for 'observation' for weeks before they were released. This was reported through all NEWS media at the time and traced up by the Police from the excessive amount of hospitalization cases that had occurred. They tracked down numerous small samples of it and had them analysed in fear of them being chemically laced. The report came back and all samples tested consistently in excess of 28%THC with absolutely ZERO other psychoactive ingredients in them. It was a pure cannabinoidal delight - I loved it, it made me more intact rather than freak me out. Others were freaking out into the Twilight zone with it, I was smoking it and spending days frolicking through the extremes of THC-land with a smile on my face that I have never forgotten. This stuff was simply unbelievable. I have not had anything as good as that since those days. it was the only dope that has ever made me feel like I was a detached observer of my surrounding reality. Like I was outside of my body looking at what I could see with my eyes and at the same time I even see myself in that same view. Freaky is not the word, a far more befitting phrase would be 'divine fumar - heavenly smoke'. I saw mates who had smoked near everything in their time and who were use to smoking 7g of the finest homegrown fully matured sativa per day melt like wax on this stuff. Heart palpitations, hyperventilation, cold sweats and white faced on just 2 small cones mixed with 30% tobacco. All the bad initial effects of the body and mind suddenly realising what an overdose of THC they'd just been given was followed by a 4hour period bliss that would leave them breathless tapering off for another 2 hours after that.
The strangest thing about this dope was that I grew it here for 4 successive seed produced generations in the following 4 years, and NOT ONCE did it turn purple, and not ONCE did it ever reach the bizarre levels of potency that it parent bud had. This was quite a revelation to me and it made me understand something that very few do about cannabis. For this to happen to me, it meant that there MSUT be some method of growing cannabis that may even be related to the locality in which it is grown but most certainly to the technique used, that makes it grow in a manner which it normally is not accustomed to. In manner which extenuates, compounds and multiplies its psychoactive capability. I also concluded that whatever method or technique this was, it not only increased the potency of the product dramatically, but also its visual appearance and aromatic properties. For none of the subsequent generations that I grew even had the aroma that the original bud did. After the 3rd generation grow it suddenly dawned on me and everyone else who grew it that I knew, that what we had was basically the very same genepool as the ordinary Durban Poison that was sold everywhere. These plants grew the same as they did, they had the same potency as the ordinary stuff did, and to add salt to the wound, they even reverted back to the plain strong aniseed aroma of the normal stuff. So much so, that had I lined anyone up to sample buds from wither after the 3rd generation, they would in no way think that either was a different strain... impossible. They were absolutely identical.
So somewhere deep in the heart of Africa lived a cultivator of extreme cannabis growing prowess that had somehow learnt or acquired a manner of growing cannabis that most any of us all would give a leg to know. What the likes of all known breeders of today strive for, and what they endlessly toil over to achieve by means of producing a SUPER SEED, is not the way to go about producing truly SUPERWEED. Any decent genepool of cannabis already has what is needed buried deep inside its RNA, this is not the realm to be looking for to find such divine excellence. The way to bring it about is to discover and master what is needed by the plant itself to aid 'it' in bringing it out of itself.
As with all truths, they will stand up to any test put to them.
This is why many of the imported pure and unlaced sativa that so many often talk about and have also been mentioned here by Charlie, Budular and others, can be grown by any decent grower in a good manner, YET they are never as strong or as devastatingly potent as the original bud from which these seeds came from. They too were obviously grown by someone who has a far greater grasp on the art of growing cannabis than any of us here have or that anyone in Amsterdam has...for no one there can produce this kind of bud either. Shanty can't, Breeder Steve can't, EdRosenthal most certainly can't, DJShort can't and I can go on and on. None of them or us can. Yet there are unknown invisible growers that can.
I would also like to add that as more time goes by, we are finding that the secrets these marvelous growers had are being lost through the lack of them practicing anymore. With the advent of the indoor garden which now supplies people with their own stash whereas originally they'd be buying these top farmers crops, plus a world wide crackdown on cannabis which means that the old fields of Thai, Limbo and Mexican sativa cannot be grown in fear of discovery and disposal by authorities due to excessively long growing cycles; everyone has now reverted to the fast flowering new Age hybrids and all current known practices that produce a lot in a short period of time. The name of the game everywhere has become 'speed' to assure a sale. Whereas in yesteryear the name of the game that assured a sale was 'superior quality' GIVEN that all outdoor crops would be ready for sale in a specific area at the same time. So to assure you ate for the next year if you where a competing farmer you had to quickly learn way to make what you had better than everyone else’s produce of similar genetics.
Wherever there's a vital need, man will find a way to fulfill it irrespective of the level of complexity of the solution required. So long as the need is 'speed', then I'm afraid that 'superior quality' will only be a thing of the past as we forget about the art and focus on the science.
I pity the new smokers of today who have never and will never experience 'divine fumar', is all I have to say.
Basically, all the Thai sticks pre mentioned, the LumboGold and Red, the Indian Hemp Sticks and the Special Durban, would all be of an outrages level of potency either way you look at it. Crumbling so tiny that you could not even see them in a joint before you rolled it closed would plaster you for 4 to 8 hours. Call it what you want, plastered, zombified, stoned shitless, hammered... whatever. Fact was that NONE of the strains we grow today with the exception of an extreme few, and that's only when they're outdoor grown in the ground and the plant left unclipped, do we come even a little close to the potency of the yesteryear nukes in a joint. I cannot recall how long it has been since I last rolled a joint and used a few speckles of bud ( I mean like the equivalent of 6 match heads crumbled up) that any of today’s smokers would not even look at, let alone consider making a full dose joint with it, that would blow me away and have me plastered to the point where I could not talk, move or think for at least 4 hours, before I could then get up to have a sip of water to quench the dessert in my mouth and begin to return back to Earth over the next 2 or more hours after that.
...and you're asking me if those old-time imported buds were stronger than today’s dopes are you??
LOLOLOL
As John McEnroe once said..."You can't be serious?"
I rest my case your honour.
