pure blend pro feeding formulas.

[Guest]

i have just purchased some pbp and i am going to try organics for the first time.
i was originally growing in a 50/50 mix of mg potting soil /sphagmum peat moss.
i had what was looking like ph problems due to the peat. i haven't been able to really dial in my grows due to this medium.
so i finally found some promix and went with a recipe that burnone had posted. 6 parts promix, 2 parts perlite, 2 parts worm castings. being the easiest feed formula he showed was just using pbp, i went with that.
i currently have pbp grow, pbp bloom, liquid karma and calmag. now coming from using gh flora lucas formula (micro/bloom) i have a few questions.
namely i want to hear from people who use pbp, i need to know how you guys use it.
i hear that what the bottle suggests is too strong, it also states "for best results" use every watering.
do you guys/gals do this?
i really just need a basic structure and i can tweak it from there, just looking for a good starting point i guess.
so, what strengths do you use and how often do you use it?
thanks ahead of time for the insights!!!

 

[TokeD]

well, you should use as directed by the bottle, i use pbp bloom and lk and have no problems using them as directed, just make sure you check your PH, as far as cal-mag if your using tap water then you should cut that out, if your using Reverse Osmosis water then you want use the cal-mag. I also like to have an addative for bloom, IE bat guano, big bud somthing along thoes lines.

 

[BurnOne]

thorodee-
Did you use the powdered dolomite lime in the soiless mix I posted? If so then you won't need the CalMag+. Dolomite will also correct the pH of the acidic peat. It is a recipe for success if you follow it completely.
If you check your Pure Blend Pro pH as TokeD suggested, you'll see it will be far out of range no matter what water you mix with it. And, it should not concern you in the least. I use well water and my PBP pH runs about 4. I have NEVER had a problem. But it is defendant on your soil mix. You must have the humates in there to buffer pH so the plant can uptake the nutes at such extreme pH levels.

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And finally Pure Blend Pro...
Pure Blend Pro veg formula for hydro/soil and Pure Blend Pro flower formula for Soil. Simply use as directed on the label. It's a stand-alone fertilizer. That means, everything you need is already in there so don't let the guy at the hydro store try to sell you something more.

Burn1

 

[Mister Postman]

thorodee-
Did you use the powdered dolomite lime in the soiless mix I posted? If so then you won't need the CalMag+. Dolomite will also correct the pH of the acidic peat. It is a recipe for success if you follow it completely.
If you check your Pure Blend Pro pH as TokeD suggested, you'll see it will be far out of range no matter what water you mix with it. And, it should not concern you in the least. I use well water and my PBP pH runs about 4. I have NEVER had a problem. But it is defendant on your soil mix. You must have the humates in there to buffer pH so the plant can uptake the nutes at such extreme pH levels.
Burn1

Wow Burn1 I use the PBP, but one of the reasons I love it so much, is it seems no matter the starting point of my water ph (tap ph8.0 ppm70 - ro ph7.0 3-10ppm) after using the pure blend pro it's right between 6.0-6.6 ph. even between regular feedings I add 1 or 2ml of pbp to my water to set my ph. I actually thought it may of had ph buffers in it that was causing this, but I guess not after hearing about your experiances. Maybe it's the well water being hard that is casuign this??? Do you feed full strength?

Thorodee I use the pbp.. I start with low feeding of around 6-8ml per gallon in veg (short veg periods here), and slowly build to about 1/2-3/4 the reccomended doses on the bottle in bloom. I feed moderate doses every watering, and give a good flush of the soil every 2 to 3 weeks. The liquid karma I use at 8ml per gal. straight through every watering.

Everything listed is per gallon
Veg (short 25-40day veg periods. My soil mix allows a good 2-3 weeks with no added ferts)
6-12 ml per gallon pbp grow
lk 8ml per gallon (every watering except for the final flush)
5ml sweet
1tsp molasses

bloom
pbp bloom 10-20ml per gallon
lk 8ml
sweet 8ml per gallon
1tsp mollases/1tsp sucunat
Bloom boosters as needed mid flowering (big bud/overdrive)

2 week flush
2tsp molasses/ 2tsp sucunat---last week plain water

If I ever have to cut back on feeding, or for the flush every 2-3 weeks. I'll feed the lk 8ml per gallon, 1tsp sucunat -1tsp molasses, add in the pbp at 1-2ml just to set my ph (works for me with my water) and flush soil 3 to 1.

Good luck with your grow, and hope the new ferts work out for you.. I started with the pbp myself, and have found no reason to try anything new.. My next grow I'll be trying some new things though.. I want to try and go organic with a good ammended soil, and do away with the liquid ferts as much possible.. We'll see

 

[Guest]

yes, burnone, i am doing what you said step for step (well i plan on it, just starting) i guess i will blow thru these bottles quickly, being i do run alot of diff strains and plants. oh well, as long as it works better than the gh, the $$ won't be a problem.
i did follow the recipe w/ the lime. 2 tablespoons per gallon of soil. i did a total mix of 20 gallons to start and have enough worm castings for 80 gallons of mix at the moment.
this organic stuff sounds like it will be way easier than the struggle ive been going thru for the past 1 1/2 yrs.
i guess i can expect bigger yields and greater taste with the organics too?
oh and i do have my free 2.5kg jug of dr. hornsby big bud courtesy of AN.

 

[wickedpete66]

you really cant over fertilize with the pbp. 15 ml/gal has an ec reading of .85 at this level salts will not build up and you won have to flush either.

 

[hogwild]

wickedpete you can overfert with pbp, it just ends up looking like you gave them too much superthrive, twisted dark green growth.

 

[wickedpete66]

wickedpete you can overfert with pbp, it just ends up looking like you gave them too much superthrive, twisted dark green growth.

what I meant is if you follow the directions on the bottle. believe the directions call for 15mf/gal. now if you give 30mls per gallon every watering thats a different story

 

[hogwild]

true that, I learned that one the hard way... actually I kindof forgot I was using pbp and not regular pure blend

 

[Guest]

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[hogwild]

sorry rodee I was just trying to clear up that it is indeed possible to burn your plants w/ pbp.

 

[SEEDYNONO]

doods don't forget that different plants/strains can have different needs/tolerances!

i use pbp and don't use full strength i use between 1/4 to 1/2 usually.

i have also noticed no ph change really at all in either hard tap water or ro bottled drinking water.. so i always am confused about people who say that..

 

[Guest]

I guess we're all different,I use the hell out of PBP veg and it blows grow big's doors off.A teaspoon and a half and 3-4 teaspoons of LK for rooted clones until 6-8 in height,then I switch to 3 teaspoons a 2 teaspoons LK.When they get aropund 15 inches I go with 6 teaspoons per gallon,I'm talking every watering from the beginning.I havent burnt a leaftip,nothing but killer lush growth,the kind I used to get from grow big when I used it exactly right which isnt easy to do lol.Thats what I love about PBP veg,I use it everytime and dont give it a second thought.It'll cost more,and it'll create more foliage

 

[Don Chocolate]

I'm agreeing with bob. I use 6 teaspoons with no problems.