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primates have been cloned

igrowone

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the latest in our brave new world, China has cloned monkeys
i think every one here knows what's next

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Jan 24 2018, 7:09 pm ET
Chinese scientists clone monkeys, break barrier to human cloning

by Reuters

LONDON — Chinese scientists have cloned monkeys using the same technique that produced Dolly the sheep two decades ago, breaking a technical barrier that could open the door to copying humans.

Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua, two identical long-tailed macaques, were born eight and six weeks ago, making them the first primates -- the order of mammals that includes monkeys, apes and humans -- to be cloned from a non-embryonic cell.

It was achieved through a process called somatic cell nuclear transfer (SCNT), which involves transferring the nucleus of a cell, which includes its DNA, into an egg which has had its nucleus removed.

Researchers at the Chinese Academy of Sciences Institute of Neuroscience in Shanghai said their work should be a boon to medical research by making it possible to study diseases in populations of genetically uniform monkeys.

But it also brings the feasibility of cloning to the doorstep of our own species.

"Humans are primates. So (for) the cloning of primate species, including humans, the technical barrier is now broken," Muming Poo, who helped supervise the program at the institute, told reporters in a conference call.

"The reason ... we broke this barrier is to produce animal models that are useful for medicine, for human health. There is no intention to apply this method to humans."

Genetically identical animals are useful in research because confounding factors caused by genetic variability in non-cloned animals can complicate experiments. They could be used to test new drugs for a range of diseases before clinical use.

The two newborns are now being bottle fed and are growing normally. The researchers said they expect more macaque clones to be born over the coming months.

Since Dolly - cloning's poster child - was born in Scotland in 1996, scientists have successfully used SCNT to clone more than 20 other species, including cows, pigs, dogs, rabbits, rats and mice.

Similar work in primates, however, had always failed, leading some experts to wonder if primates were resistant.

The new research, published on Wednesday in the journal Cell, shows that is not the case. The Chinese team succeeded, after many attempts, by using modulators to switch on or off certain genes that were inhibiting embryo development.

Even so, their success rate was extremely low and the technique worked only when nuclei were transferred from fetal cells, rather than adult ones, as was the case with Dolly. In all, it took 127 eggs to produce two live macaque births.

"It remains a very inefficient and hazardous procedure," said Robin Lovell-Badge, a cloning expert at the Francis Crick Institute in London, who was not involved in the Chinese work.

"The work in this paper is not a stepping-stone to establishing methods for obtaining live born human clones. This clearly remains a very foolish thing to attempt."

The research underscores China's increasingly important role at the cutting-edge of biosciences, where its scientists have at times pushed ethical boundaries.

Three years ago, for example, researchers at Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou caused a furore when they reported carrying out the first experiment to edit the DNA of human embryos, although similar work has now been done in the United States.

Scientists at the Shanghai institute said they followed international guidelines for animal research set by the U.S. National Institutes of Health, but called for a debate on what should or should not be acceptable practice in primate cloning.

At the moment, because of safety concerns, federal regulators in the U.S. would not allow making a human baby by cloning, and international scientific groups also oppose it, said biomedical ethics expert Insoo Hyun of Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals condemned the monkey-cloning experiments.

“Cloning is a horror show: a waste of lives, time and money — and the suffering that such experiments cause is unimaginable,” PETA Senior Vice President Kathy Guillermo said in a statement. “Because cloning has a failure rate of at least 90 percent, these two monkeys represent misery and death on an enormous scale.”
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CaptainDankness

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No surprise there. Of course the US government has terminators much more than just drones. I remember seeing a robotic bull years ago, that could walk better and hold more weight than a human could ever dream they just didn't mount a .50 Cal yet for obvious reasons.

We've all seen the movie. Lol, sure they ain't as badass but they are basically just as bad, just the drones are bad enough. We ain't going to be able to revolt soon enough.
 

shithawk420

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So basically they are saying they can clone humans without saying the word humans.figures.I knew it
 

WelderDan

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Imma get myself cloned and send that poor sucker to work for me while I stay home and get stoned.
 
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It will be very interesting to see what becomes of these cloned humans.

We may learn something about the existence of the soul and what "self" really is
 

Stickybred420

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kinda surprised that news surfaced. usually china is pretty strict about keeping their secrets withtin their borders. I bet they have already cloned humans successfully. they would just never let the secret out. I read an article about 2 years ago that china had discovered the cure for cancer and that there was no way that info was leaving the country.
 

Ringodoggie

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Now you all know how cannabis plants feel about humans. ;) Have we ever asked our plants if they approve of us cloning them?

Repent, canna cloners. The end is near.
 

armedoldhippy

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Imma get myself cloned and send that poor sucker to work for me while I stay home and get stoned.

i want three clones. one to send to work, one to mow grass/rake leaves, and one to go fishing with. hell, make that four. one to stay home & keep the wife happy while i'm fishing/hunting/smoking with #3...:biggrin:
 

igrowone

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this is pretty big
now whether humans have already been cloned?
not that i know of, but then i don't know a lot of things
but the medical implications are huge
the means to grow genetically identical stem cells for an individual has taken a step closer
 

Ringodoggie

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the means to grow genetically identical stem cells for an individual has taken a step closer


This is really what it's all about. Nobody intends to make a copy of a person. This is about being able to provide you with a new lung or a new kidney for yourself, cloned from your own DNA. One major problem with transplants is the bodies rejection of the foreign material. If you cold make a new heart out of your own DNA, your body would accept it much better (it is believed).

I'm too old and I'll be dead before it's any use to me so..... LOL
 

CosmicGiggle

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I finally found a use for the piece of Pamela Anderson’s chewing gum i found on the set of bay watch

I see black market sex $laves, $ervants, organ donors and research subjects, anything more is going to cost a lot to feed and cause trouble when a future robotic could be doing their job.:tiphat:
 

mean mr.mustard

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This is really what it's all about. Nobody intends to make a copy of a person. This is about being able to provide you with a new lung or a new kidney for yourself, cloned from your own DNA. One major problem with transplants is the bodies rejection of the foreign material. If you cold make a new heart out of your own DNA, your body would accept it much better (it is believed).

I'm too old and I'll be dead before it's any use to me so..... LOL

Perhaps they want to make a copy of a person...

For the reasons you have stated?

An entire arm or a face?

This will open a can of worms.

If a life is legally defined by the occurance of cell division then shit's bound to get weird.
 

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