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Pre dug holes
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kov
Polskaaa, bialo-czerwonaaa
^^^ All this really depends on the soil quality in your outdoor spot. An experienced gardener will know this the moment he grabs a handful of soil from a location. There's a lot to consider - is the plot situated in leaf or pine forest, what's the surrounding vegetation, is the soil sandy or maybe clay based.
I have access to a very sandy soil, just sand in fact, so I dig up holes and replace the soil completely. Each holds up to 50L or about 18 gal of soil, pretty large holes.
rgds, kov
I have access to a very sandy soil, just sand in fact, so I dig up holes and replace the soil completely. Each holds up to 50L or about 18 gal of soil, pretty large holes.
rgds, kov
PureSativa420
Active member
where i live unlike kov i can actually jus turn the dirt over and mix in the organic nutes and a little bit of potting soil and be fine as my dirt is very black and smells like the earth and breaks up easily and stays jus right 
kov
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heyyy Wamen good to see ya!
heh, Puresativa420 you lucky you! Damn I hate carrying hundreds of kilos of soil and do hours of shovelling in spring. But then when it's done, it's so good to sit back and watch the plants grow in sunlight!
BTW: where the hell is spring? Still got 50cm of snow covering my locations!
rgds, kov
heh, Puresativa420 you lucky you! Damn I hate carrying hundreds of kilos of soil and do hours of shovelling in spring. But then when it's done, it's so good to sit back and watch the plants grow in sunlight!
BTW: where the hell is spring? Still got 50cm of snow covering my locations!
rgds, kov
PureSativa420
Active member
ahh but i would enjoy carrying the soil as much as i enjoy carrying the water , jus lots of exercise to stay in shape along with going to the gym
you got snow and i got mud from all the rain we had over the last few days and looking at more rain, ah it went from the 70s to the 30s how nice is that eh
, jus lots of exercise to stay in shape along with going to the gymyou got snow and i got mud from all the rain we had over the last few days and looking at more rain, ah it went from the 70s to the 30s how nice is that eh
Stoner133
Active member
Unfortunatly, most of the potential sites with good quality top soil are already being used for agriculture. Even the poorer quality land can be upgraded to productive farming with water and fertilizer.
For the most part, we have to search out places where conventional agriculture are not practical and that usually means rocks and swamps.
The past several seasons, I had been using a site that was solid rocks, not a chance of digging out a hole without using explosives. The rock outcropping limits the range of native plants that can occupy the spot and it gets great Sunlight.
Packing in dry 5 gallon growbags is trivial work compared to packing in 160Kg of water three times a week at the peak of the season.
Last year, I experimented with a wetland site. The soil is very dense particals and compacts severly when it drys out. Again, few native plants can tolorate the conditions giving me excellent Sunlight and lots of privacy.
The plants did not find enough water on their own and were stunted by long periods of wilting, but they survived.
This season, I intend to set 5 gallon buckets at the low water line. When the water rises in the late Spring, they will be flooded by 12 to 18" if the same conditons re-occure this season. As the Summer progresses, the water level drops to the point where they are still being watered for flowering.
For the most part, we have to search out places where conventional agriculture are not practical and that usually means rocks and swamps.
The past several seasons, I had been using a site that was solid rocks, not a chance of digging out a hole without using explosives. The rock outcropping limits the range of native plants that can occupy the spot and it gets great Sunlight.
Packing in dry 5 gallon growbags is trivial work compared to packing in 160Kg of water three times a week at the peak of the season.
Last year, I experimented with a wetland site. The soil is very dense particals and compacts severly when it drys out. Again, few native plants can tolorate the conditions giving me excellent Sunlight and lots of privacy.
The plants did not find enough water on their own and were stunted by long periods of wilting, but they survived.
This season, I intend to set 5 gallon buckets at the low water line. When the water rises in the late Spring, they will be flooded by 12 to 18" if the same conditons re-occure this season. As the Summer progresses, the water level drops to the point where they are still being watered for flowering.
lookimrory
Member
i actually just had an exam in geology and theres a picture in my book of all the different types of soils in america and canada...i dont have a scanner but i can tell you about the soils depending on what part of the country you live in
420ponics
Member
The bigger the hole you dig the bigger then plants get. Obviously if you are growing in sand or clay you'll want to replace all of that dirt. Sand doesn't hold moisture very well and would require you to often water your plants if you don't get plenty of rainfall. Clay just doesn't have the nurients. I have grown ALOT of plants outdoors with no problems...just not cannibas. I hear with cannibas you want your hole to be at least 2x2x2 feet. Just get you some good gardening soil and fill it in. Fox farm ocean forest or some compost or anything else that is good. Hope this helps.
Ponics.
Ponics.
what do rhodeodendron's grow in? that is where i was thinking of growing. sorry thats a spelling error btw. they are that posinious evergreen plant, with thick large green leaves.. droop in winter but never brown or shed leaves.
do u think if i tell u guys the plants that grow native to the exact spot i want u guys can tell me the soil make up? next time i'm at my spot i'll look through it but i'm fairly sure there is a rich layer of top soil, and a lot like regular dirt, meaning not sandy and not silt, just red and black dirt depending on what specific area i'm in and how deep i go. The whole area has no pine trees.
do u think if i tell u guys the plants that grow native to the exact spot i want u guys can tell me the soil make up? next time i'm at my spot i'll look through it but i'm fairly sure there is a rich layer of top soil, and a lot like regular dirt, meaning not sandy and not silt, just red and black dirt depending on what specific area i'm in and how deep i go. The whole area has no pine trees.
i like sticking to my 3 foot deep and 3 foot wide sized holes their large enoug hto support a 6 foot plant easy.
kov
Polskaaa, bialo-czerwonaaa
dmcheatw said:
Rhododendron is a plant that has very specific soil needs. It's one of few plants in nature that needs highly ACIDIC soil. You DO NOT want to plant Marijuana close to rhododendron, unless you bring your own soil to the spot and isolate it from surrounding soil completely with plastic bags.
Don't even think about it.
There's one plant that will tell you that the soil it grows on is good for marijuana, it's stinging nettle.
Wherever stinging nettle grows, your marijuana plants will fluorish.
It usually grows in big bushes, it composts itself every year, provides a great source of nitrogen and great humus, develops a great, light soilmix your marijuana plants will love.
The only problem is that it dies off quite early in the autumn, so when you think that you got your mj well concealed in a huge nettle bush, in autumn it dies off, and your marijuana suddenly stands out from between browning nettle stems.
rgds, kov
Stoner do you use these grow bags? could u estimate their dry weight and also how much outside ferts do u need for these bags,
KOV i have a chart of like 400 plants and can't find the PH preference of Stinging Nettle, does it have any other names and what type of plant is it if u don't mind. the rhododendron according to the chart grows in 4.5-6.0 ph so that is on the low side but i was under the impression 6.0 was gold for mj. if u had to make a ph range for mj would this be correct: 5.5-6.5 or would it be 5.5-7.0 everyone says mj is easy to grow but on this chart if the spread is only about 1 ph point then MJ is actually pretty picky cause most plants on this chart can withstand a 2 point ph spread, hell it says strawberrys grow in 5.0 to 7.5.
Could someone tell me what other type of plants mj grows well with in the soil that i might find on a mountain in VA and also are eaisly identifiable? I don't *think* stinging nettle exists in this area in question, or at least not in abundance
KOV i have a chart of like 400 plants and can't find the PH preference of Stinging Nettle, does it have any other names and what type of plant is it if u don't mind. the rhododendron according to the chart grows in 4.5-6.0 ph so that is on the low side but i was under the impression 6.0 was gold for mj. if u had to make a ph range for mj would this be correct: 5.5-6.5 or would it be 5.5-7.0 everyone says mj is easy to grow but on this chart if the spread is only about 1 ph point then MJ is actually pretty picky cause most plants on this chart can withstand a 2 point ph spread, hell it says strawberrys grow in 5.0 to 7.5.
Could someone tell me what other type of plants mj grows well with in the soil that i might find on a mountain in VA and also are eaisly identifiable? I don't *think* stinging nettle exists in this area in question, or at least not in abundance
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...=stinging+nettle&hl=en&lr=&oi=imagesr&start=1
theres some info on stinging nettle's i dont really see them in my area but another good refrence for american's you know those viney looking plant's wth various thorns and a very small amount of leave's? i cant think of the name of them but they only grow in soil with good amounts of nitrogen in it
theres some info on stinging nettle's i dont really see them in my area but another good refrence for american's you know those viney looking plant's wth various thorns and a very small amount of leave's? i cant think of the name of them but they only grow in soil with good amounts of nitrogen in it
basically judge the soil by the amount of plants flourishing over it there's usually lots of green foliage which mean's good soil and camoflauge but the good soil part doesnt affect me as i bring the soil i dug up back in the bag i brought the good soil in with. another very important tip dont leave a huge dirt pile next to a hole you dug very obvious
