Poll just for fun: If you could pick only one
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Great question!
I'm often daydreaming of a similar situation...
What if I could only pick one single pack of seeds for myself alone on a lonely island in the tropics, which would it be?
The thinking goes this way...
Must be regular seeds, so I can get males and females to make seeds.
Variation is very desirable so I could do selections.
Traits from parents should be something good for my taste.
Obviously the tropical climate requires plants from tropical regions...
So the answer?
It's really hard to say but probably Purple Haze x Malawi regular would be my pick.
Cheers
I'm often daydreaming of a similar situation...
What if I could only pick one single pack of seeds for myself alone on a lonely island in the tropics, which would it be?
The thinking goes this way...
Must be regular seeds, so I can get males and females to make seeds.
Variation is very desirable so I could do selections.
Traits from parents should be something good for my taste.
Obviously the tropical climate requires plants from tropical regions...
So the answer?
It's really hard to say but probably Purple Haze x Malawi regular would be my pick.
Cheers
Hey Koon! Ya it’s a fun question! Personally, my curiosity comes from a bit more realistic place than being deserted on a tropical island �� ����
More along the lines of, I can only keep four mother plants at any one time and I want to see what everyone’s favorites have been and why to help me narrow down my choices. To date, I have A bunch of ACEs selections in my seed bank. About to start flowering our Panama in a few weeks. ��
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TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Ever hear of nootropics? The drug in the movie Limitless is a nootropic. If i had to choose one, for me it would be Honduran. Lets me focus like a laser beam.
It's my NZT.
It's my NZT.
Nice!!! One of the few I don’t have but I’ve heard a lot of good things about it!
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I have yet to grow Double Thai out so it's hard to judge her as I've heard amazing things about this strain. Currently without question it would have to be Ace's Oldtimer's Haze. The quality of the smoke was unlike anything I have ever had from any store here in Oregon and I have been to a lot of shops. Bought so many different supposably 100% Sativas and they don't even compare to OTH. Even bought Purple Haze at a shop which was 100% sativa which didn't compare to Malawi, Zamal, OTH or Green Haze IMO. They are good don't get me wrong, it's just comparing two different things to one another. Can't wait to here others options on this. Happy growing as always.
where is your list ?
Dr. King, is the Double Thai one of ACE’s selections? I don’t believe I’ve ever seen it in their catalog? That’s very interesting to me your choice of the OTH, as I’ve heard Dubi say the pure haze lines are highly inbred and that’s one of the reasons they are focusing on crossing them into other Sativa lines, for example the purple Malawi haze as Koon mentioned above.
It’s very reassuring to me that this is what you would choose as your first pick. I think I have about 25 OTH reg seeds but I’ll need to save them for next year when I have more space to work with, for the next year or so I’m forced to grow in a cab with limited verticle height (30”) so something like the OTH will have to wait until after I move next year and can pull my tents and big lights out of storage.
Did you grow the OTH? If so, was it an outdoor grow or an indoor grow? I’m very interested in hearing everyone’s experiences with all of ACE’s lines and I don’t see many people growing straight OTH so would love to hear your feedback.
Thanks for contributing!
Hi Lrus!
Unfortunately, I have never grown an ACE selection, but that is soon to change. All my grows have been modern day hybrids, many of them were considered top end genetics, but they are all modern day hybrids none the less. I just finished a test grow of a freebie from HSO to test the new cab before moving on to ACEs stuff. Turned out well for a small test plant
I have a TON of ACEs strains in my seedbank, it’s going to take me quite awhile to work my way through them, and I’m adding more by the day. I probably have a seed hoarding problem. Lol
I currently have six ACE panamas from 2015 popped and in veg, soon heading into flower.
In my seedbank I have:
Zamaldelica reg, Malawi reg, OTH reg, Bangi Haze reg, Tikal reg, PCK reg, Nepal Jam reg, Golden Tiger reg .... all these are from 2015 stock.
Recently I’ve added the hashplant S1, Killer A5 haze, the Panama fem Breeders pack, Malawi fem from the new killer pheno, Malawi x Panama and I am eyeing the purple Malawi haze... but then I have to get a grip on myself and stop
As mentioned first up is Panama, then I need to start working my way through them so I can make new seeds to put back in the seedbank.
Here is a complete list of what I have in my seedbank.... it’s a tortuous thing being stuck with only a grow cab right now:
Strains
ACE Nepal Jam
ACE Golden tiger
ACE Zamaldelica
ACE Tikal
ACE Oldtimers Haze
ACE Malawi
ACE Bangi Haze
ACE PCK
ACE Panama
ACE Hashplant S1
ACE Killer A5 Haze
ACE Malawi fem
ACE Panama breeders pack
Serious Kali Mist
Mosca C99 BX-1
Hazeman Monkey Balls
Hazeman Madness
Bohdi Prayer Tower Indica
Bohdi Blue Tara
Connoisseur Genetics OG CHEM
Connoisseur Genetics SSSDH
Land race Thai from Chang Mai
Sani Herijuana IBL
USC Black Afghani
USC Sour kush
USC Nepalma CBD
Random Freebies
Dinafem Blue Cheese FM
Humboldt Dedoverde haze auto FM
TH Seeds original bubblegum FM
CH9 Blue Lemon Thai FM
710 Genetics seeds high priority FM
710 Gebetics Seeds super shark FM
DNA sour kosher FM
G13 labs Gigabud FM
Reserva Privada Tangie FM
World of Seeds amnesia auto FM
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Hey OZZ, hard to say "why" but this F1 got my attention since it came out, similar like Panama Haze which is a fem edition so would not be a great choice for a lonely island 
Out of Ace varieties I would have to pick at least three unrelated sativas to be happy, those would be Panama, OTH and probably Ethiopian.
Cheers
Out of Ace varieties I would have to pick at least three unrelated sativas to be happy, those would be Panama, OTH and probably Ethiopian.
Cheers
deepwaterdude
Well-known member
Definitely a good question, or fun, anyway
For me, Panama Haze might be numba 1, and I might be talking about a particular, long running pheno. Numba 2, Zamaldelica x Kali China. Now, I'm just trying out the Super Malawi Haze, and there's a softness there that is absent in the Killer A5 (which I would NOT choose as my only strain) that makes it super interesting. VERY floaty
For me, Panama Haze might be numba 1, and I might be talking about a particular, long running pheno. Numba 2, Zamaldelica x Kali China. Now, I'm just trying out the Super Malawi Haze, and there's a softness there that is absent in the Killer A5 (which I would NOT choose as my only strain) that makes it super interesting. VERY floaty
Hey OZZ, hard to say "why" but this F1 got my attention since it came out, similar like Panama Haze which is a fem edition so would not be a great choice for a lonely island
Out of Ace varieties I would have to pick at least three unrelated sativas to be happy, those would be Panama, OTH and probably Ethiopian.
Cheers
Totally understand, and makes sense! Cheers
Definitely a good question, or fun, anyway
For me, Panama Haze might be numba 1, and I might be talking about a particular, long running pheno. Numba 2, Zamaldelica x Kali China. Now, I'm just trying out the Super Malawi Haze, and there's a softness there that is absent in the Killer A5 (which I would NOT choose as my only strain) that makes it super interesting. VERY floaty
DWD.... I’ve been looking through some of your grows, good stuff I’ll probably read through most of them over the next week or so taking what information about the strains that I can find.
What is it about the Panama Haze that makes it your number 1?
Also, why would Killer A5 haze NOT make the list?
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deepwaterdude
Well-known member
Mornin', Ozz, easy peasey
My previous 2 Panama Haze plants were both hazey phenos, one taken at 16 weeks, the other at 18+, both with super amazing, delicate yet powerful terpene profiles. The 16er smelled like rotten tropical fruit; mango, guanabana, guava, plus a hint of light lemon from the Panama Goddess. Awesome, incensey fruit when burnt, and a soaring, happy, social Panamanian high. Deep and delicate.
But, the real deal, my grail so far, was the 18 weeker. She was more hazey in expression, brought absolutely to term with beautiful, hard purple foxtails. Her terpenes were such that I stuck my nose in her jars for minutes at a time, just huffing her sugar lemon mandarine incense sparkle... seriously, my poetic license has been revoked by orfeas, this is pure truth. The most incensey of any plant I've grown when burnt, and the most euphoric, positive high I have known. And uber powerful and uplifting, no getting used to it, every time I broke some up it was with ceremonial reverence. The one in my tent is starting to lean that way, though no telling were she healthy.
Killer A5 is uber powerful, molto stanky when it has the NL side present, attractive as far as bag appeal and will let everyone know it's around. People will want it, it will smack them around like they haven't been in a while. The haze doesn't sparkle like it does in crosses made with PH23 or whichever dubi uses. Also, Panama itself is hugely positive smoke, very powerful sometimes. It's a killer, no doubt, but on my Island I'm going to need to be up and about, marveling at the genius of the universe, etc. Also, I find the Killer A5 haze NL phenos are the only ones to give me dark circles under my eyes. None of Ace's other stuff has done that to me.
Edit: the final word on A5 and Super malawi hazes will come from Zanddar when he shows back up to give his amazing reports. Master grower, master reporter of smoke. Buddler could chime in on those two on the same level.
Sitting here smoking the Super Malawi Haze, I find it much more special than the A5, while still retaining a serious and distinctive punch. Pretty darn cool, and still not Panama Haze
chiesesganja
Well-known member
pck x malawi reg
Mornin', Ozz, easy peasey
My previous 2 Panama Haze plants were both hazey phenos, one taken at 16 weeks, the other at 18+, both with super amazing, delicate yet powerful terpene profiles. The 16er smelled like rotten tropical fruit; mango, guanabana, guava, plus a hint of light lemon from the Panama Goddess. Awesome, incensey fruit when burnt, and a soaring, happy, social Panamanian high. Deep and delicate.
But, the real deal, my grail so far, was the 18 weeker. She was more hazey in expression, brought absolutely to term with beautiful, hard purple foxtails. Her terpenes were such that I stuck my nose in her jars for minutes at a time, just huffing her sugar lemon mandarine incense sparkle... seriously, my poetic license has been revoked by orfeas, this is pure truth. The most incensey of any plant I've grown when burnt, and the most euphoric, positive high I have known. And uber powerful and uplifting, no getting used to it, every time I broke some up it was with ceremonial reverence. The one in my tent is starting to lean that way, though no telling were she healthy.
Killer A5 is uber powerful, molto stanky when it has the NL side present, attractive as far as bag appeal and will let everyone know it's around. People will want it, it will smack them around like they haven't been in a while. The haze doesn't sparkle like it does in crosses made with PH23 or whichever dubi uses. Also, Panama itself is hugely positive smoke, very powerful sometimes. It's a killer, no doubt, but on my Island I'm going to need to be up and about, marveling at the genius of the universe, etc. Also, I find the Killer A5 haze NL phenos are the only ones to give me dark circles under my eyes. None of Ace's other stuff has done that to me.
Edit: the final word on A5 and Super malawi hazes will come from Zanddar when he shows back up to give his amazing reports. Master grower, master reporter of smoke. Buddler could chime in on those two on the same level.
Sitting here smoking the Super Malawi Haze, I find it much more special than the A5, while still retaining a serious and distinctive punch. Pretty darn cool, and still not Panama Haze
Wow, what a great write up. I appreciate the detail your putting forth! I’m primarily looking for two Sativa mothers to keep for the long term as I search throughout all these genetics. You’ve hit the nail on the head with some of your descriptions. The first I’m looking for is a happy, upbeat social old school high much like what you describe. From my research it sounds like I should be looking at the Banghi haze, Panama, haze or Nepal jams.
Secondly I would quite like a more devastating sativa type.... looking towards the Malawi and now some of these Malawi crosses.
The thing I don’t understand on the super Malawi haze vs killer A5 haze is this: if the killer A5 haze has the NL Indica genetics in it.... and the super Malawi haze does not, why are all the killer A5 haze plants being posted in the threads ridiculously stretchy and big, whereas all the super Malawi haze plants are much shorter, stockier with much less stretch.
If the killer A5 haze has the NL in it and the super Malawi haze does not.... I would assume it should be the other way around? I’ve read through both the KA5 and the SMH threads and the growers comments and plants being posted show the KA5 as super stretchy and the SMH with much less stretchy and more stocky. That’s confusing to me as the “reportedly” more stretchy KA5 has the Indica genes.
Thanks again for the great dialogue! It’s fun researching and learning everyone’s experiences with such awesome genetics.
Always welcome to put in information. Double Thai is indeed one of Ace's older strains no longer available. It's Koh Chang Thai x Meao Thai. Just google, Ace seeds Double Thai and the Info will pop up. Dubi may one day reproduce some seeds. Until then finding them from someone is about the only way one can go about obtaining those genetics.
I did indeed grow OTH's out indoors years back, two of them. Both OTH's went for 24 weeks even after reducing my light schedule. One grew out shorter, one was very big and stretchy so I had to LST her like crazy. Both where in 5 gallon smart pots. My tent was 5' x 5' x 7' with a 600 watt HPS at the time as LED's costed a lot 6 years ago lol. The other OTH you will notice in my first picture at the top left, she only grew about 2 feet tall. I haven't the clue why she stayed so short. I failed to take pictures of her back in the day as I wasn't really focused on doing so. Now I make sure to document every plant I grew for my records and for the breeders as well.
I also grew out a Green Haze beside those two ladies and let me tell you. If you don't have room. A pure Green haze will get nearly twice the size of a OTH. It literally took over almost the entire tent and tired consuming the light. Happy growing as always.
OTH Whole plant LST
OTH just the top
6 month cured OTH
I did indeed grow OTH's out indoors years back, two of them. Both OTH's went for 24 weeks even after reducing my light schedule. One grew out shorter, one was very big and stretchy so I had to LST her like crazy. Both where in 5 gallon smart pots. My tent was 5' x 5' x 7' with a 600 watt HPS at the time as LED's costed a lot 6 years ago lol. The other OTH you will notice in my first picture at the top left, she only grew about 2 feet tall. I haven't the clue why she stayed so short. I failed to take pictures of her back in the day as I wasn't really focused on doing so. Now I make sure to document every plant I grew for my records and for the breeders as well.
I also grew out a Green Haze beside those two ladies and let me tell you. If you don't have room. A pure Green haze will get nearly twice the size of a OTH
. It literally took over almost the entire tent and tired consuming the light. Happy growing as always.OTH Whole plant LST
OTH just the top
6 month cured OTH
