PLEASE TAKE A LOOK! Need some help.

[jiggasouza]

I posted this in the growers forum but someone mentioned to put it in here for a little more help maybe. So here it is.
Here are my clones under a 4 bulb t5 set up. Each bulb is 54 watts and its in my grow tent. I have a 6 in vortex fan and a regular fan so i wouldnt think i would be the heat but this is my first time doing this in door so please anybody please help as my ak is a very special clone. Any advice would really be appriciated.
AK Clone








This is my Blue Cheese and Mendo Purp clones. Same thing happening.










I keep my light about 6 inches or so away from my girls. But it seems to be happening to all my clones so PLEASE HELP before its too late for me.
Thanks guys
Jiggasouza

 

[jiggasouza]

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More info please.
Are the clones rooted? How old are they?Have you been feeding them?If they are rooted ...how did you do it?
Pics alone won't give anyone enough info to help you.

definately a nutrient problem. fertilize with a even npk nutrient

More than anything relax, over reacting kills ladies

Your perlite looks like you have alreay used nutes?

What ppm did you use of what brand of nutrients?
What was the PH?

The new growth on top looks good to me...its the lower leaves showing defencies...usually all my clones do this when they are popping roots...your just seeing there battle wounds from eating there own ass to make roots...go slow and easy...

If you put this in the infirmary section you will get more people to help you out.

 

[jiggasouza]

Sorry for the lack of info. Well i got these clones real small only a couple of inches in rapid rooter plugs. The reason being they needed to be easy to hide. They all had a few roots poppin when i got them and before i put them into soil, i let them grow a little healthy root system. I havent fertilized them but there is benificial bacteria which is a 5-1-1 and i have given them roots excelerator once recently about a couple of days ago. Also i just remembered that my dad acually said he sprayed them a couple times with a very weak spray of miracle gro all purpose which will definetly not be happening again. But they look fine for a few days after i had talked to my dad about not spraying my stuff. All the leaves were doing fine untill recently and they already went through the whole process of yellowing and growing roots. They are about...well not to sure how old from cut but since i got them into the soil, its been about a week and 1/2.

You HAVE NOT ferted these girls???

If not, try giving them a light to moderate dose, and see if you have any change.

I use the KISS approach when growing indoors. The less the better. So all the added good like accelerators and shyt... I dont use um. Few if any have added to health of the plant or larger/better flowers.

If the symptoms continue, back off any nute and use pH balanced water. and see if they change.

heres my

first find out what kind of soil you are using, my bets are its pre fertilized

if the soil has nutes in it, then id say ur babies will out grow the pot before they start needing any extra food

stop all nutes and use only ph 6.8 water until signs of improvement

...also did ur dad spray them with the lights on ?

My pops did spray them with the lights on. The soil I'm using is Fox farm light warrior. Like I said it has benificial bacteria added into the soil and its a 5-1-1. I'm not to sure on the ph because i dont have a ph tester. I try to use bottled water but i am not sure about the ph of it. But see, they were perfectly fine then this happend to the growth that was fine. Even my other afgani clone got this type of thing and it is a lot bigger. Do you think it is too hot because thats the only thing i think would be doing it. Unless its the ferts in the soil but i didnt even use the benificial bacteria in my afghani clone so i have no clue.

 

[Gangabiss]

It is nothing to do with spraying when the lights are on, but the miracle grow could've done some damage....but then I'd expect them to be showing signs of burning which they aren't.

Have you used this soil before with good results? It could be that the ph of the soil is slightly off.

I don't know man....you don't provide a lot of info. It makes it difficult to diagnose.

 

[jiggasouza]

what other info do you need that could help. I never used this soil before but it was provided to me by a green house store owner who should know what he is doing. Is there such thing as too much wind, or does it look like the lights are too close? Idk what else to tell you guys. Sorry.

 

[KINGKONG]

Never mind,

ITS PROBABLY YOUR GROWTENT!!!!!!!

what brand did you get, when did you buy it???

Regardless read here, start at the end of the thread and work back.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=29986

I had a 8x4 sunhut i bought a few months ago. Almost killed everything before i found out what it was. Its a major problem WITH every tent with the white lining. The ones made long ago are ok. I have the new one with silver lining and its doing ok so far.

MOVE THEM OUT OF THE TENT and see if they get better
DONT SPRAY THEM WITH WATER WHILE IN THE TENT!

 

[KINGKONG]

Im almost for sure this is your problem after looking at the pics more. Bascily the tents are made in china, the canvas and the lining are made at one place for all of the brands, Hydrohut, sunhut, etc. Call Sunhut and they will say they have no problems with the off gassing but the new tents say "no off gassing". HydroHut has admitted the problem. Here is an email someone posted here from a HydroHut rep.

"Unlike the B.S. that is being written on the boards, HydroHut and Habitat are not made by the same company. The materials come from the same machine but after that, everything is different. The off gassing problem is indeed world wide now and HydroHut is only sold in the USA.

The Habitat is the same as the Sunhut, exactly the same product. As you have a SunHut now, a product that is not ours, I would suggest you call your store or Sunlight Supply. Your store, by nature, should give you a credit as they will get a credit from Sunlight Supply in less than a second on this issue. Hydrofarm and Sunlight Supply (Sunhut) are trying to keep this as quiet as they can."

 

[jiggasouza]

Thanks KINGKONG, i have a Hydro Hut (5x5). I dont see what else i could be doing wrong, but idk. Should i try to get in touch with Hydro Hut or take this up with the place that i got it from?

 

[KINGKONG]

When did you buy it??

Regardless you are lucky you bought the Hydrohut. They are taking them back and saying "yes we fcked up". Contact the people you got it from and tell them "My tent has the off gassing problem". They should work with you bro.

Believe me i went thru all the same crap. Flushing soil, checking PPMs, checking temps, blah blah blah. A month of "holy shit whats wrong" and after reading all the post and seeing the pics here i figured it out. I had 2 rooms going. Everything fine in the veg room. As soon as they hit the tent straight down hill.

 

[jiggasouza]

KONG, Same thing happening to me. Been trippin trying to figure out what is happening. But I went down to the shop that i got it from today and all he said is that he can email the producer. He also said that the producer he gets his tents from site is now down. ???.

 

[jiggasouza]

Oh and I bought about 3 1/2 weeks ago

 

[KINGKONG]

Well you may end up having to just call it a loss but i wouldnt shop at that store anymore i can tell you that. You can always call the maker of the tent.

Stay away from anything with the white lining...The new ones are all silver.

 

[VenturaHwy]

Haven't they known for a long time these Hydrohut's give off toxic fumes? Makes no sense to sell them when they are killing peoples plants.

There must be a temporary place you can put them?

 

[RockyMountainHi]

Gro tents have a terible reputation - lots of sick plants from tent growers.

My first guess with growing problems is always over watering.

Could be a lil of both

 

[Dr.Snow]

It would be best if you could put them in a new environment and see what the effect was. Even if you can only do it with one small one (attach a cfl under a table and stick the clone under it with a lil fan) you should be able to tell whether or not it is the aforementioned off-gassing. I used a hydrohut for about a year without issue so not saying it's not the problem but just saying that it's not always the problem... good luck peace, dr.snow

 

[KINGKONG]

Not all the hydrohuts or sunhuts are a problem. I have a friend that has used one for over 2 years. It is the ones made recently that have the problem.

It took my plants over a month to come back.

 

[jiggasouza]

Well just moved um to a new spot today finally. We shall see if things get better. I will definatly let you all know. And thanks all, for the help so for.

 

[Hammerhead]

secret jardin and home box are the only to suppliers of tents that never had this problem. I have the Secret Jardin 150 and it works great. I had a hb xl but the zipper will not hold up to the constant closeing and opening

 

[Gangabiss]

The BudBox is a safe tent also!

Haven't heard one story of them killing plants. They have the white lining too.

My babies are growing happily.

 

[jiggasouza]

Alright boiz, this is the deal. The manager at the store who sold me the Hydro Hut was very sorry and gave me a full refund. He even is trading all his old white Hydro Huts in for the new ones with the silver interior. He has even told me he will give me a discount on the new one if I still want one.

These are my clones and they been out of the Hydro Hut for about 5 days now and already showing improvement.
(AK, Blue Cheese, Mendo Purp)






The mendo seems to be the most affected. The clones below have been in the Hydro Hut for only a few days before they got out and are look very good. They also have been transplanted to soil only about a week ago. The clones above have been put into soil almost 2 1/2 weeks ago and have been in the tent from the beginning.

Also got a pic of my Alpha D's right here that got slightly affected by the Hydro Hut. They were outside then placed in the Hut were they werent looking so good, so thats why i figured it was the tent. Good germ rate 100% so far.




Thanks again everybody. Especially KINGKONG, much thanks to you my bro, saved my ladies.