please help!!

[smokineeyore]

Hello there i was hoping for some diagnostic help on what could be worng with my girls they were transplanted 2 weeks ago have been watered 4 times 1st was plain water 2nd was 1/2 strength metanaturals 3-3-3 w/blackstrap molasses 3rd was 3/4 strength metanaturals 3-3-3 w/o molasses 4th was plain water yesterday.. the waterings had been about 3-4 days apart they are in happy frog soil with some added pearlite. not much in the way of new growth about an inch in the 2 weeks theyve been in the rubbermaid tub the leaves are turning yellow and some of the big fan leaves are getting black spots here are some pics so you can see what im talking about

2 weeks ago
1 week ago

2 days ago i have pulled off the yellow leavess but other than that they look the same

 

[MynameStitch]

Ok, few things wrong here man... first yes they are burned. 2nd you will have to get them out of that tubcause for one the soil is now burning them with all the feedings you have been giving them. They do not need fed that much but weekly. They also need to be in there own pots; those tubs contribute to over watering the worst; 1 plant per pot.

12 in tall plant per 1 gallon size pot MINIMUM.

So you are going to have to dig them up, you can't flush that big tub of soil other wise you will kill them by over watering them.
The water that is not being used will keep the soil way to wet.
Your only other choice is to get them out of there and into there own pots.

How much of the nutrients did you use? I need to know exact dose with how much water...... another thing... do not listen to the back of the bottle/box..... there amounts are always ridiculous unless it's made for cannabis; then that is different.

You are going to have a hard time getting them out of there... by now there roots have intertwined and you are going to have to somewhat break roots by getting them out of there..... you are going to have to cut around the rootball and get them out of there........

After getting them into there new pots; get some thrive alive or super thrive and use 1 or 2 drops........ DROPS per gallon of water and water them a bit to help with the stress of roots being torn and bothered.

Depending on what soil you use... depends on when you feed again...... You going to use more FF happy frog soil?

 

[smokineeyore]

first off Thank you vm stitch i was kinda hopin you would ring in here.
second as far as the feedings went the first was 1tsp 3-3-3 1tsp molasses to 2 gallons of water the second feeding was 1.5tsps no molasses to 2 gallons of water. The plain waterings were just 2 gallons of water.
I would like to use the happy frog again as i am happy with it, it worked well on a couple "test grows" i did.

Can i reuse the soil i have now if i ammend it? there is quite a bit in the tub and it would be a shame to waste it if i dont have to

i had some 3 gal grow bags ill have to dig and find them otherwise ill have to find something else im thinkin those 28lb cat litter tubs they are about 4 gallons i think

any other advice would be great thanks again

 

[MynameStitch]

Np at all!

If you reuse the soil you will have to flush it before using it..... which means lots of nutrients are going to be flushed and you will have to end up feeding sooner.

So just make sure you flush it good before reusing it. Like use 2x the amount of water to the size of the pot.. say you use 2 gallon size pots.. use 4 gallons of water to flush it..... I would also let the soil dry out a bit before using it, because you are going to have to damage some of the root system and the plant will most likely go into some kind of shock and you do not want to throw soggy soil at them.

How far apart was each feedings? See with you using that big of a tub the plants can stay in that soil a little longer than the recommended time it says on the bag, because you are not using pots you used a tub.

So the plants did not need to be fed; cause the soil was already rich; so when you fed them it just added to much with those couple of feedings.

I would definatly not waste the soil but would take little by little and flush it as needed.. just do not water the whole tub soggy soil that does not get air smells terrible.

Right now with there size I would use 3 gallon size pots.

12 in tall plants to 1 gallon size pots minimum. meaning 1 gallon size pots are the smallest to 12 in tall plants.... so 24 in tall plants need at least 2 to 3 gallon size pots. Even then that is still pushing it.

So I would use 3 gallon size pots for now.....

 

[stinkyattic]

If I may add one last thing to think about, the soil level in that tub is too low.
When you re-pot into the new pots, be certain that your soil surface is close to the rim of the pot- like an inch or less down- for good air circulation around the base of the plant.

 

[HeadyPete]

I noticed the temp was 90 degrees. Is this normal? The hotter the temps the more you back the food off. Hot plants do not eat like plants at a happy 78 degrees. Work on better ventilation/aircooling if need be.

Other than that listen to Stitch and her dankness.

 

[MynameStitch]

I am glad peeps post after me, cause my head is about to explode...... there is just so much stuff I can never cram it all in...

lol heady <3

 

[JungleRiddums]

Hey bro, you know who here. Sorry it took a while, but I forgot my login info so had to start new.

I just chucked all the babies cause that batch of blackgold was no bueno. Damping off like a mofo, gnarly fungus saying hello this morning. So check the soil around the rootballs, cause that was the first place i used the new bags. I dont think the feeding helped cause these girls are pretty light on nutes, but it wouldnt surpprise me if you got the start of a colony goin on.

Oh yeah, guess which soil those LA Pure Kush bag seeds were in

 

[smokineeyore]

jungle damn dude that sux i am thinking of just starting anew as well. the growth is still way slow and i dont have the cash for any "medical" attention i dont know what happened they all started so well