please help my clones!

[GlassonGlass]

I do not know whats wrong with my clones, I took them about six days ago and they are not looking so good, I have been misting a film of water on the bottom of the tray to avoid the cubes becoming to wet, but it just dosent seem to be working. Are they going to die? or is there anyway i can save them? please someone help i have no cloning experence.

 

[sproutco]

Clones need almost 100% humidity for several weeks. Try keeping the clones constantly misted.

 

[GlassonGlass]

they are in a constant 70-80% humidity

 

[sproutco]

There is no high humidity structure like a dome. They should be inside all foggy and happy. I am really drunk...get back to me later. :friends:

 

[SouthernSmoker]

A few questions

A few questions

How long was the mom in flower when you took those clones ?
what light are you useing ? ( you dont need intense light to clone )
what light cycle are you running ?
what are the temps and humidity in your room ?(90 to 100% is best )
are you using heat mat under the tray?(clones root best when soil temps are kept constaint @77 worked best for me .)
have you ever let the rockwoolcubes get dry? (thats a no no )

Oh and glassonglass i have seen worse looking clones make a full recovery
your clones dont look as bad as you think !

 

[glock23]

They need more water man. In an effort to keep em from being too wet, you've let em get too dry

 

[GlassonGlass]

how do i find a way of keeping it between the two extremes?

 

[SouthernSmoker]

If you will please answer my questions so we can have better idea of what is going on thank you
southernsmoker

 

[GlassonGlass]

How long was the mom in flower when you took those clones ?
what light are you useing ? ( you dont need intense light to clone )
what light cycle are you running ?
what are the temps and humidity in your room ?(90 to 100% is best )
are you using heat mat under the tray?(clones root best when soil temps are kept constaint @77 worked best for me .)
have you ever let the rockwoolcubes get dry? (thats a no no )

Oh and glassonglass i have seen worse looking clones make a full recovery
your clones dont look as bad as you think !

The mothers where like 16-18 days into flowering
Light = 2 15w Cool Blue Compact Flos 1500lumens each
Light Cycle = 24/0 (i heard that was best for clones taken in flowering.
Temps/Humidity = 75-85 Degrees F, 70-80% humidity (they are under a humidity dome just not while I took the picture)
Yes there is a heating mat under they tray
Im not sure if the cubes ever dryed out completely, but they have been semi-close.

 

[SouthernSmoker]

I would give them a drink of water and maybe raise the light just alittle and see what happends in the next 24hrs .
Did you presoak thos rockwool cubes before you took your cuttings ?
How often are you removing the dome form the trey and wipeing out the excess moister?

Sorry for all the ???? just trying to get the overall picture

 

[GlassonGlass]

no i was in a rush to clone them and i forgot to soak the cubes, i remove the dome and wipe it about 2 times a day. Man i really hope i can save these things.

 

[SouthernSmoker]

get some water and ph it to @ 6.5 and give it to them not soaking them but good and moist. give them a couple days , let them get about half way dry and try to keep them there you should see roots in the next 4 to 6 days.

by the way what strain is it ? I know some strains can take a little longer to clone than others or they can be touchier than others .

keep your head up and let us know what happend with them in the next few days

 

[Guest]

cuut off those yellow leaves,,,to many leaves means to much transpiration is expected from the clone to do the work of the absent roots, clip off the yellow, and the tips of the green,they will be fine, leavem alone in the dome and youll be surprised, after trimming of course, after you build a good root mass, there will be plenty of time in veg to replace the leaves you cut off for proper cloning,,,g luck, bd

 

[sproutco]

I think your mother plant is low in magnesium. Problems from the mother plant come out rapidly in the clones when they are rooting. Try spraying the clones with 1 tablespoon epsom salts per quart of water.

 

[LEGI0N]

It's too late now but those are kind of large for clones.. Know what I mean? Mine are a little smaller. Get a dome for sure.

 

[stretchpuppy]

Coming from a flowering plant it's going to take longer for them to root... and they are going to look like shit in the meantime. My flowering cuts finally rooted, did the transplant, and still a week later after being transplanted they are "recovering" and growing new, but it's far from a perfect little green clone. I think you have a little too much leaf mass on them as well. You have a heating mat? I noticed better results WITH a mat then WITHOUT.

I had most success with cuts from a flowering mom in a cheap $10 DIY bubble cloner... well, even normal cuts kick in it. Something you may want to think about.

I see you have the dome... I'd also NOT spray the plants directly with water. You want to roots to grow out and search for the water... not have it directly applied to the plant- it slows down the whole process. The less I babied them and fussed over them, the faster they root it seems to me.

 

[sproutco]

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You should maybe spray the clones with 1 tablespoon epsom salts per quart of water.

 

[GlassonGlass]

thanks for all the replys, I will trim the yellow leaves tonight and try spraying them with the epsom salts. Also yes i have a heating pad and a dome as i explained in my earlier posts.

 

[guineapig]

I see your point sproutco about the magnesium, but before we tackle the magnesium products let's get these clones nursed back to health......

I firmly believe the problem is your medium is drying out a little too much.....the heat mat you are using is drying out the rockwool cubes.....these freakin' heat mats get too hot, way too hot, and if left on for days will definately suck all of the moisture out of the rockwool cubes....

I have seen too many clones die this way!!! The roots need to be 5 degrees higher in temperature than the ambient air, and the heating mat always heats up WAY beyond temp needed to sustain the 5 degree difference.....

take the heat mat out or else stack tray upon tray and sandwich a towell in between the trays so as to buffer some of the excess heat......just be careful because this isn't recommended by the heat-mat manufacturer......

This is a big pet peeve of mine. These seed-mats are counter-productive unless you buy the 40 dollar thermostat control or else you are willing to constantly plug and unplug the heat mat.....

You could also go buy a timer and set the mat to cycle on and off in 15 minute increments......This should work as well to prevent rockwool overheating....

guineapig speaks

 

[GlassonGlass]

I turned it onto the lowest setting and it seems to be working out better, but i havent checked them yet today.