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Please Help, Input Greatly Appreciated (PH?)

pillsbury

New member
hello all. So heres a little info on my situation. Sorry no Pics

I've been growing a little beauty for a little over a month now. I call her Pixie
- 1 gallon pot,.....3 tsp dolomitic lime mixed in
- Jacks classic ferts 15-30-15, 1/4 tsp per gallon, I use approx 6ozs every watering plus pure h20, water about every 4 days.


At first she was doing great. Then I accidently gave her too much fert when she was little....she recovered and was doin fine
- growth was vigorous...approx 1.3 cm leaf length increasing a day, 24/0 for 2 weeks, then 12/12 for approx 2 weeks in (used fluros then 150 hps for flower)
- I had her in flower and right when she revealed her sex to me I decided to put her back into veg flowers were very small

- since then shes steadily gone down hill. i thought it was reverting back into veg but her symptoms tell me otherwise...
1-for the last week growth rate has sucked.... .1-.2 cm leaf growth a day
2- leaf stems have turned reddish purple and the main stem is turning purple too (they were a healthy green before)
3- bottom leaves are turning light green and this is progressing upwards
4- growth at top has very wrinkly small leaves
5- leaves are taking on a dry appearance
6- leaf edges are curling a little bit up and they're darker green on the edges particularly near the top

So...I thought about this problem. HEAT? Raised the hps-> no difference
->put fluros back in now its much cooler -> no difference
->left plant alone-> no change
NUTEBURN? no marks like earlier nuteburn damage, these symptoms are more uniform in the plant and affecting growth
Light Schedule changing STRESS?

------ This is what I think the problem is but I'm not sure.......I came to the conclusion that fertilizing too often has lowered the ph of the soil making it too acidic and locking out nutrients......the yellow leaf changing is progressing upwards->nitrogen locked out?
........stems turning purple, leafs drying out, slow growth-> potassium or phosphorus lockout?

SO I flushed 2 days ago.....2 gallons of tap water.... there doesn't seem to be much change in the plant
I was thinking i didn't add enough d lime into the soil to buffer the ph in the beginning so I also spread a tsp of d lime into the top cm of soil...(btw I think theres peat moss in the soil mix.. acidic right?)

I hope this post wasn't too disorganized and yall understand what I'm trying to get help with? DO MY PROBLEMS SOUND PH related? Let me know if I'm on the right track.. or what yall think is wrong with my little PIXIE
 

Core

Quality Control Controller
ICMag Donor
Veteran
most problems are ph related or over/underfeeding

most problems are ph related or over/underfeeding

you can't make a diagnose without checking ph ...and some other vital information you left out...like temps ,witch kind of soil ,soilless...these small things...
but most problems start with overfeeding and ph out of balance ...ime that is....
Pics would help ALOT 2
 

MTF-Sandman

OG Refugee
Veteran
1, 4, 5, & 6 are classic physical traits of revegging...2 & 3 sound like it's not getting enough food.

As Core stated, PH is very important...as well as all the other details.
 

pillsbury

New member
Thank you. I just bought the rapitest ph soil kit so ill know soon. I put d lime on top of the soil last night though so I'm gonna have to dig down for a good sample.

As for the temps..70-80 in day, 70s at night.
I forget the soil name, but it was expensive and I know it contains peat moss and no ferts.
Like I said, the first 3 weeks went absolutely great, very healthy plant. I think I used to much fertilize over timer and it built up in the soil locking out nutrients. These symptoms came on slowly not suddenly... Does this sound likely based on the info I've given?

MTF-Sandman.......1,4,5,& 6 could be from re-vegging? Even if she never finished flowering? I feel as though I've fed the plant a little too much, but many things are possible at this point I guess. I'll try and get some pics up for ya...I also forgot to mention I have a fan that circulates air around the plant, not strong, but it shakes the leaves.

Thanks so far for your suggestions.
 
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man those rapitest soil meters are inaccurate. I tried one before, did not seem to work. Liquid testers are cheap and pretty accurate.
gl
 

MTF-Sandman

OG Refugee
Veteran
Yeah, it doesn't matter if it finished flowering...if it was kicked into flowering, it'll get a little funky while reverting back to veg growth.

If the "soil" mix is just peat, then the PH is gonna be low without DL...sounds like you may have fixed that part though.

When you water/feed are you getting runoff every time? If not, you might be getting a buildup in the peat mix...something to think about :chin:
 

pillsbury

New member
MTF-Sandman....yes runoff each time.

-I got the rapitest soil sample kit not the meter. The guy at the nursery even said those suck...

Unfortunately pixie seems to only be gettin worse.. I took these observations today..
1.red stems..spreading into main leaf vein
2.growth still stunted, leaves on top very small and thin
3.leaves are still getting lighter, more than before
4.taco leaf on top leaf sets
5.grey/brown spots on the leaf tips and also heavily on leaf edges
6.dryness to leaves, stiff stems

I also noticed some other interesting things....
1.the flowers seem to be getting bigger even though the plants not in veg
2. The internal node growth is still green and seems to be happy, its quite bushy around the stem

I checked and from April 6 - May 5 I've fertilized 5 times. The fert directions say to mix 1/4 tsp in a gallon, give every watering.....I made their recommended mix but like I said only give about 6-7 oz of the fert mix every watering, rest is pure h2o

I'm goin to try and get some pics up, thanks for your help so far
 

pillsbury

New member
Here are some overtime pics...








The last is most recent.. notice the yellow lower leaves, purple stems, damaged tips, and yet...lush green interior growth
 

pillsbury

New member
Also, you can't see it in the pics but leaves (the serrated edges) are turning brown and getting spots. funky revegging or big problem?
 

Blackvelvet

Member
Double your fert strength. Your at 45 ppm nitrogen. You need closer to 100 ppm n.

Ignore Core's signature. Sometimes people with less knowledge and have failed to put in time (Yes, your spare time) into reading and studying become jealous and intimidated. People like this tried to cheat off my papers in college. :D :moon:



Mtf sandman, your always cool in my book... :wave:



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Brian1975

Member
Hello BV. :asskick: How are you today? I am hoping you and yours are well :kissass: :kissass: :kissass: Have a fine day and great tomorrow. :wave: ......be nice to BV or he will give you bad reputation like he did to me cause he didn't like me messing with him. Ooops, did I say that out loud? :weakestli
 

Blackvelvet

Member
Brian1975 said:
Hello BV. :asskick: How are you today? I am hoping you and yours are well :kissass: :kissass: :kissass: Have a fine day and great tomorrow. :wave: ......be nice to BV or he will give you bad reputation like he did to me cause he didn't like me messing with him. Ooops, did I say that out loud? :weakestli
Sometimes people with less knowledge and have failed to put in time (Yes, your spare time) into reading and studying become jealous and intimidated. People like this tried to cheat off my papers in college. :moon: :D
 
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Blackvelvet said:
Sometimes people with less knowledge and have failed to put in time (Yes, your spare time) into reading and studying become jealous and intimidated. People like this tried to cheat off my papers in college. :moon: :D


Now that is funny :pointlaug :weakestli :YaRight: :confused: :jerkit: :spank: :crazy: :nanana: :bashhead: :bigeye: :muahaha:

Brian, he has been giving me neg rep since I joined here. Just report it to the admin. He will get banned again very soon :lurk:


ALL HAIL SPROUTCO/BLACKVELVET/8 BALL***THE KING OF MISINFORMATION!
 
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Brian1975

Member
Quote numbers and percentages that you read on the internet. No problem, make them up if you want. Time, spare time, lots I imagine when you aren't taking out the garbage or doing your homework. Let's see your goddamned advice put to the test. Show us your "Garden of Eden". Growing, ha! You have a hard time growing your hair. PM me if you want to continue this dialogue Einstein. Good luck Pillsbury. Watch out for this guy and his bag of tricks! Hello Haze. He got pissed because I found him answering a thread posted by his alter ego, Eightball, last night. I said something about him talking to himself, so he removed his thread and gave me negative rep. There, now I am tattletale! See what you made me do Sproutco/BlackVelvet/Eightball :bat: :bat:
 
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The guy talks to his other handles :pointlaug I have caught him doing that shit myself. He is known by many members to edit and delete his posts when he makes these obvious mistakes that expose him as someone who has mutiple handles :fsu:
 

Blackvelvet

Member
Okay, suckers. Thread starter is using 1/4 teaspoon per gallon. 1 teaspoon per gallon 20-20-20 is 240 ppm nitrogen. But wait...he has 15-30-15. We are shooting for 100 ppm n in flower. 15/20 x 240 = 180 ppm n for a teaspoon. We only need about 1/2 or 90 ppm n. He should use 1/2 teaspoon per gallon. Go get drunk or stoned and leave Velvet alone. I have not seen my crac@head girlfriend in 4 days since I told her to pay her own way some of the time. Velvet is in shame ... :pointlaug I need some squishy. :D :sasmokin:
 
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Shes off sucking dick for crack thats why you havent seen her! Go drink another beast and get the fuck outta here!

A matter of fact shes here with me I nicknamed her "JAWBONE"
 
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Blackvelvet

Member
HazeToker said:
Shes off sucking dick for crack thats why you havent seen her! Go drink another beast and get the fuck outta here!
As long is there is a breath in my body, I will not stop to help others grow there own. Beat it sucker! Overgrow the government!

:smoweed:
 
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Blackvelvet said:
As long is there is a breath in my body, I will not stop to help others grow there own. Beat it sucker! Overgrow the government!

:smoweed:


Can I use that quote in my sig? :pointlaug You ruin peoples grows not help them :fsu:
 
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