Plants wilting

[deadkndys]

So about two two days ago I noticed my plants were wilting and falling over. I tied them with a piece of string and stick to keep them up. Why do you guys think they started to wilt and fall over? I transplanted them from small pots too soil about a week and a half ago.

They are each in a 2 foot by 2 foot hole filled with Kelloggs natural patio mix. I also added about 2-3 handfuls of mulch and I also added some more perlite as the Kelloggs didn't have enough.

The older one isn't wilting as bad.

This is them 3 days after I transplanted them into the ground.

 

[deadkndys]

Continued from the above post.

 

[deadkndys]

Forgot to mention it was really windy for Thursday,Friday, and Saturday last week.

 

[Doji!]

i thinks there's an problem with the pictures.

they are not showing

 

[LyryC]

If you are watering and the plant is not obsorbing the water, try misting the plants, foliar feeding.

But honestly if the roots don't work the plant doesn't work. Could be a pest, disease, user error, the plant, its hard to tell when the pictures aren't working.

 

[greenmatter]

with no pics we are no help

not sure if i am remembering correctly but i'm pretty sure someone around here linked us to proof that kellogg products had sewage sludge in them. i doubt that is your issue but you might wanna think about it next time you buy a bag-o-dirt

 

[shokdee]

How much water are you giving them?

How much water are you giving them?

Wilting could be due to over watering. Did your plants look like mine, curled up leaves?

Did the wilting start at the top, or the lower leaves?

Good luck, Shokdee

 

[deadkndys]

Well turns out the are not wilting but twisting from excess heat ( I live in a dry area.)

Well I decided to put up a sheet to cover them from the afternoon sunlight.

I have a third plant in a different location and that gets less sunlight (around 5 hours) and that one is completely normal.


Hopefully they will bounce back in a week or two.

 

[shokdee]

... they will bounce back in a week or two.

I'm sure they will. Good work and all the best onwards.

 

[Sat X RB]

listen ... cannabis can handle lots of heat ... but only if their roots are healthy.

you'll accelerate flowering if you shade them.

did you check the drainage of the holes you put that awful soil mix into? like, did you pour a bucket of water in them and time how long the water took to drain away? any longer than five minutes is insufficient drainage ... and it should be faster, much faster, than that.

they won't bounce back in a week or two either. they'll be well and truly dead by that time!

a DAY or two is normal response or yr plants aren't growing.

and you don't mention how you've fed them ...

sheesh!

 

[deadkndys]

Yeah I get good drainage. The hole drains in about 3 minutes.

And I haven't fed them as there is food (not time release) in the soil that should last for a month.

 

[Sat X RB]

OK. well assuming you didn't damage them severely at transplant ...

these 'handfuls' of mulch you mention. are you meaning they're mixed with the soil?

if so:

you don't say what the mulch is, but I assume you call it mulch because it's dry plant material that has not decomposed.

when fresh organic material (dry or wet) is added to soil all sorts of wierd things can happen in the soil as the fresh material rots down.

there will be a Nitrogen shortage as the N bacteria focus on decomposing the fresh material instead of feeding yr plant. there may also be heat produced by decomposition which the roots won't like. the fresh material will acidify yr soil ... at least in the short term. and this acidification will cause an imbalance of uptake of minerals from soil to plant.

any and all of these factors will reduce the vigour of yr plants ... causing them to wilt and droop.

come back ...

 

[deadkndys]

Well the mulch is 'Kelloggs gromulch" From there video it states it is ""Fortifed with plant food,iron,nitrogen,phosphorus,and potassium".

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/89/89219605-e7e6-4fac-9942-1f0d40916167_300.jpg

 

[deadkndys]

And yes I mixed in the mulch with the soil.

 

[Sat X RB]

OK, I checked out the Kellogs site but couldn't see any NPK analyses of their products.

(I also googled 'kelloggs grow mulch' and found it mentioned by other troubled cannabis growers ... with pics. )

without knowing NPK ratios in the two products you've used there's no way of specifying what might be wrong, EXCEPT ...

"Patio Mix" must contain a generally useful level of nutrients ... and by the sounds of it the 'Grow Mulch' contains heaps! So there will be lots, perhaps too much, nutrient in your end mix.

It may also be that 'Growmulch" has a high pH. like 8. soil manufacturers sometimes assume that their mix will be going into fresh garden soil or neglected garden soils, both lacking in Calcium and with a pH that is low (acid). so their mix raises the soil pH toward the magic 6.5 - 7.0 as it fertilises.

thus ... your soil may be too concentrated at present for the weed cannabis is. soil pH may also be wrong. and yr soil may literally be hot.

you have multiple choices at this point. 1. dig another site, add growmulch to the native soil at the recommended rate, water the new site like crazy and replant. 2. water the fuck out of what you've already got ... then buy a soil pH test kit from the local hardware (low cost) to find out what yr soil pH is ... then correct yr soil pH ... and keep on watering until yr plant comes good.

good luck ...

 

[deadkndys]

I'm not thinking the soil is the problem.

Here is a pic of my third plant that is in the same soil mix but in a different location, and it also gets less direct sunlight(about 5 hours) as my others and it is doing wonderful.

http://i.imgur.com/gbQScAM.jpg

 

[Sat X RB]

Oh ... they're tiny.

and fairly sensitive at this stage.

so shading is ok 'til they gain more vigour. water often and wait. there still may be a hot spot right under the troubled plants that the roots are taking their time to penetrate.

and it's good idea to know what yr pH is anyway.

one good thing, when they recover they are gonna boom!