Plants that help our plants

[ourcee]

can you use equisitum hyemale or only the equisitum arvense in fermentation? (horsetail)

I know diff species but is there oaxalic acid in hymale as well?

salicylic acid in the fernleaf yarrow btw


I'm gettin into the organic n composting stuff a lot and have some worms goin, gonna get the black soldier flys outa my tumbler which is about ready with a fresh batch of compost.
brewing EWC tea as we speak.

 

[jaykush]

can you use equisitum hyemale or only the equisitum arvense in fermentation? (horsetail)

I know diff species but is there oaxalic acid in hymale as well?

not too sure ourcee, i just use what is locally available to me.

thanks for the salicylic acid, i knew it was something like that.

composting is the key, do it right and it will repay you 10x the favor.

 

[Lazyman]

My brother wanted me to grind up eucalyptus leaves and sprinkle them on top of my pots to keep bugs away, anyone tried this?

 

[jaykush]

which eucalyptus? there are many species. i know some inhibit the growth of other plants. id do more research before trying it out.

 

[sophisto]

HEllo fellow greenthumbs, I been so damn busy latley, glad to see the threads still going.. JAy you da man!!! I been working with alot of these anerobic decoctions and fermented teas lately and all I have to say is wow!!!!, Tomatoes are lovin it. U turned me on brudda I'll never forget that.

Comfrey,nettles,chamomile, molasses after ferment.........Unfrikinbuleevable!!!

 

[jaykush]

HEllo fellow greenthumbs, I been so damn busy latley, glad to see the threads still going.. JAy you da man!!! I been working with alot of these anerobic decoctions and fermented teas lately and all I have to say is wow!!!!, Tomatoes are lovin it. U turned me on brudda I'll never forget that.

Comfrey,nettles,chamomile, molasses after ferment.........Unfrikinbuleev able!!!

ahaha great, love to hear that sophisto, it makes me happy inside. tomatoes grown with nettles do taste fuckin amazing. everyone LOVES our tomatoes here. and of course our danky buds lol.

now add some rock powders and watch them explode!

 

[Lazyman]

which eucalyptus? there are many species. i know some inhibit the growth of other plants. id do more research before trying it out.

No idea, I have a small lot of trees by my place, all euc's but I don't know how to tell one species from another.

Another question(sorry to OP for threadjacking) but what kind of plants do mites/fungus gnats etc actually PREFER? Like, if they had a better choice than my herb plants, what would they live on if given a choice?

 

[jaykush]

heres a bump for this thread

 

[Uncle77]

jay, what is actualy rock powder ?

 

[jaykush]

powdered rocks, just as the name says. its just a source of minerals and trace elements. being in a powder form the rock has more surface area for the micro organisms to work on and release those nutrients.

 

[Uncle77]

thanx man

any rock powder can be used?

 

[jaykush]

not really, not all rocks are created equal. they are made of different substances, different minerals. its best to have a diversity imo. i use powders from multiple sources. first is local lavarock dust as well as bigger bits for added drainage and CEC. next is crushed river rock ( which in itself has about 10-20 different types of rock ) and a little bit of some locally acquired granite. if you cant find any or just want to start out, try buying some azomite or glacial rock powders. azomite is really cheap and effective though.

 

[Uncle77]

nice info jay, big thanx !

 

[CannaExists]

It's about time I got to reading this thread, pardon me for being intimidated by threads with a lot of pages.

To celebrate the essence of this thread, I'm starting my own experiment. I harvested some pine needles from a pine tree in my yard, blended them a bit in some water, and put it in a mason jar with the the lid a lil' loose.



I've read lots of good benefits from pine needle teas... but on the other hand I've also read about cattle having abortions from eating pine needles. We'll just have to see what the plants have to say. Stay tuned.

 

[jaykush]

i would personally rather go with some random weed than pine needles.

 

[CannaExists]

i would personally rather go with some random weed than pine needles.

I'm forwarding it tons of prana and love trust me it'll be magic ♥

I'll test it on one privileged plant for starters... ooh ya know what I can douse my Kamut grass with it too. The extract like... kinda foams when I stir it. I don't think it has hit a heavy foam point yet... perhaps pine needles don't get down like weeds do.

 

[mad librettist]

Doesn't turpentine come from pine? I love that smell.


Ever notice nightcrawlers won't pull pine needles under like they do deciduous tree leaves?

 

[longy]

arnt pine needles to acidic or something
only askin cause nothing grows areound pine trees

 

[Clackamas Coot]

arnt pine needles to acidic or something
only askin cause nothing grows areound pine trees

longy

They're very acidic. Blueberries are a plant that prefers acidic soils and Oregon is a large producer of blueberries. Growers use pine needles as a mulch in and around blueberry plants as an inexpensive way to increase the acid level in the surrounding soils.

Getting enough pine needles is pretty easy in this part of the world as things turn out.

CC

 

[mad librettist]

that's not why the other plants won't grow (assuming you mean annuals). The fungi attracted by the tree acidify the soil, and fungi drove it to be acidic in the first place, as a natural process of life (the opposite of entropy). Pine needles are acidic, but that's not how soil gets acid. That usually takes fungi (talking normal land plants, not riparian or wetlands).

Annuals and such prefer bacterial dominated conditions. But many perennials, like the blueberries mentioned above, prefer very fungal, and thus acidic soil. Nightcrawlers don't take the pine needles because they are not around, as they prefer basic soil. They probably would have trouble shredding it too, but I don't know.