PK 13-14 vs. Beast Blooms?

[sensirocker]

Hello everyone,


pk13-14 and beast blooms by fox farm are use during the same time i think.... week 2-4 ish? im wondering which one is better... i have been using the 3 part series, open sesame, but have yet to use beast blooms and cha ching.....

any thoughts?

sr

 

[southpaw]

Curious about this too. I grabbed some Big Bloom for late in flowering this run but want to try Cha Ching next time. Questions, concerns, comments?

 

[Guest]

I use open sesame until the stretch is done on the plants, then switch to beasie bloomz, usually about 3 weeks

 

[sensirocker]

does anyone have experience with this nutes???

 

[sensirocker]

annnnnyyyyyyyoneee??? someone on this forum has to know!!

 

[sensirocker]

i guess ill just keep posting until the thread catches someones eye....

 

[Core]

got a similar question but other product...

its about PK 13/14 from canna and green sensation from plagron...some storeguy said to me that it green sensetion from plagron should give 20% more bud then pk 13/14 is this true??
coz some other clerk said that its a rippof (50€)coz it almost the same as pk 13/14 (9€)

 

[treehuggers]

Hello,

i just bought biobizz grow and bloom nutes to try them out and instead TopMax i took Green sesation from Plagron. PK13/14 is standart fertilizer with NPK value of 0 13 14. Top Max has something like 0.1 0.1 0.1 but contains other BIO stimulating things that your plants value. Just like Green Sensation. I took GS because i trust plagron. They are pricey but they rock. Amazing howmany products they have...

anyway...

Green Sensation is a bloom stimulant for the final 4-6 weeks of flowering.

Function:
Green Sensation directly supports the sugar production, resulting in a harder cell structure and higher yield. Green Sensation also helps the plant to recover (from stress).

The results are sensational, easy to achieve even for starters.

Dilute 1 ml with 1 litre of water (1:1000). Add this dilution together with the basic food, every time you water. Start 4 weeks before the harvest. Green Sensation can be used on all substrates (soil, coconut, rock wool, mapito, NFT).

E.g.
Short flowering from the fourth week.
Medium flowering from the fifth week.
Long flowering from the sixth week.

First dilute Green Sensation with lukewarm water, than add to the nutrient container.

TopMax is a 100% vegetable based organic bloom stimulator that encourages rapid cell division during flowering and increases the production of transport sugars in the fruit or flowers, resulting in a larger blossoms and fruits with enhanced flavours, oils and aromas.

- Available in bottles of 500ml, 1L 5L or 10L.

APPLICATION
As an additive to the regular nutrient or plant water. To be used during the whole blooming period of the plant. Generates explosive flower production. Suitable for all substrates and mediums.

DOSE
2 - 5 ml per Litre water. Use with every watering.

PK 13 –14

In order to meet plants’ exact needs, Canna nutrients provide designated products for plants in their growth and blooming phases. Therefore, in the majority of our nutrient lines you will find “Vega” type nutrients for the growing phase and “Flora” type nutrients for the blooming phase.
Fast growing plants though, may need additional Phosphate (P) and Potassium (K). CANNA PK 13-14 stimulates floral development during the blooming phase, providing exuberant flowers and larger yields.
Depending on the EC values and the type of growing medium used, PK 13-14 contributes to improved bloom and fructification. Unlike other blooming aids, Canna PK13-14 works rapidly and is becomes immediately available to the plant, because it requires a very small amount of absorption energy. This allows the plant to fully focus on blooming.

PHOSPHATE (P)

Phosphor is an essential element in general plant nutrition. It plays a key role in cell combustion and in the plant’s total energy transfer. It is a basic element for cell membranes and is indispensable to cell development. During the blooming period of fast-growing plants, phosphor improves the cell build-up in the flowers as well as other growth shoots and the vascular system.Canna PK13/14 is absorbed easily from any medium, and stimulates the bloom and simply helps building strong cells.

POTASSIUM (K)

Potassium is found in all parts of the plant. It is necessary for all the plant’s activities involving water transportation. Potassium also ensures the plant’s sturdiness and quality, and it drives numerous other processes, such as the carbohydrate system. When applied in the right quantities, Potassium allows the plant to produce sufficient carbohydrates and to stimulate the growth of flowers during the bloom phase. Over application of Potassium may cause salt damage, for example, or a shortage of Calcium and Magnesium resulting acidification of the root environment. Used in the quantities listed, Canna PK 13/14 is the perfect supplement for blooming plants.

You see the difference?

 

[sensirocker]

ok, i think i understand whats going on here.... thank you very much treehugger....
another question tho..... where does beastie blooms, from fox farm, play into all of this?

 

[Guest]

Core,if any clerk tells you that you're going to get 20% more bud with any product,I think that would be the last discussion I would have with him.Do any other factors apply here?Can you use a flashlight and still get 20% more bud with this product?See what I mean man,look through the bullshit.My best advice is to never discuss growing MJ with any clerk anytime,its just not a smart thing to put him or anyone else in the position of having knowledge of breaking the law.Its bad for you and him.

 

[Core]

Core,if any clerk tells you that you're going to get 20% more bud with any product,I think that would be the last discussion I would have with him.Do any other factors apply here?Can you use a flashlight and still get 20% more bud with this product?See what I mean man,look through the bullshit.My best advice is to never discuss growing MJ with any clerk anytime,its just not a smart thing to put him or anyone else in the position of having knowledge of breaking the law.Its bad for you and him.

Thx SKELETOR for yor repley....so you would recomd using GS...
i see now that its not the same as PK 13/14 .....there it went wrong im my head...so that means it useable at the same time you add PK 13/14....
and about this %tage...if its ads no more weight to your buds why you buy it then? or am i wrong?
anhue i live in belgium near holland so its open for disscussion.....
great help mate THX

 

[Guest]

I use Bio bizz Grow/Bloom and Top max.. At week 3 or 4 I start to use Beasty bloom. My 1st try with FF I always used BigBud. It works great with a little cal/mag..

 

[treehuggers]

ok, i think i understand whats going on here.... thank you very much treehugger....
another question tho..... where does beastie blooms, from fox farm, play into all of this?

Beastie Bloomz® Soluble Fertilizer (0-50-30)
Heavyweight Blossom Builder for Gardeners and Hydroponic Growers


Beastie Bloomz® is perfect for gardeners and growers who are ready to take their plants to the next level. This is a high-phosphorus soluble fertilizer that’s geared towards building amazing buds and flowers. Our revolutionary micronutrient pack is designed to create unbelievable internal bud density, which means that plants create fat, dense, tightly-packed blossoms, and plenty of them. You’ll also see exceptionally brilliant color and a long, dazzling blooming season.

Garden tip: Start with Open Sesame® in the fifth or sixth week of a plant’s life. Once bud set begins, feed your plants with Beastie Bloomz® every other watering according to package directions and our FoxFarm Feeding Schedule. For high-yield results, start indoor plants in our Light Warrior® Agro-Ponic® Grow Medium, and use our premium Ocean Forest® Potting Soil for container plants.

In the eighth to ninth week of the plants life cycle, switch to Cha Ching® for an incredible harvest. For complete feeding schedules, go here.

Is the same as PK 13-14...chemical fertilizer. Just with a diffrent NPK ratio...(0-50-30) I must warn you so the numbers dont confuse you... 0:50:30 is the same as 0:5:3... they just say 50 beacause it looks more

One year ago I bought many things from plagron ... and also got N, P and K in seperate bottles. Using simple PPM/EC meter I can make my own 'pk 13/14' or this beastie thingy... or any ratio I need.

All this info on nutrients is from their official websites. You can use search engine www.google.com if you want more info... just type the brand of nutes you are looking for



TH

 

[sensirocker]

awesome, thank you everyone.