Pink kush, king, queen, white green wtf!

[med-man]

Hey dudes. This is not a troll or bashing post.

Just legit tryna distill a story. For my own sanity.

I've spoken to reef privately a few times, I've done my own research and frankly there's some more then some crazy making going down. Legit.

All I know for sure, as multiple stories agree and check out that king and some other epic hashplants came to Vancouver Island. This for a fact is where the starting material originated.

Some of my new neighbors used to guard some drop off points for hash and thai stick so they have verified alot.

I think me and a ton of people would love to actually know either in power point or diagram how this cluster fuck makes sense

I get it reefs a breeder he's paranoid about people recreating his work. Frankly I don't think anyone cares about that.

He has told me once the Pink is all but lost. That Pink is actually king. That the real first Pink is in the l.p. sector. The stories keep changing.

So I do my own research....all due respect...this information makes me want to have a seizure.

I've literally grown and still grow the best 2 "pinks" and made seeds with em. They both came and come from ex or existing "organizations" members.

If anyine can make sense of king, green, queen, pink, hashplants, lizard, skunk, white this or that I think the whole world would really appreciate the clarity

I know there are some island boys here that can clear up this mess.

I've attached some crazy making reference material

Thanks in advance!

 

[med-man]

Couple more

 

[jessethestoner]

Maybe ask C-ray

 

[med-man]

Maybe ask C-ray

I think by fualt thats 110% my own, he wouldn't indulge me?

He's the first guy on thought of to tag....bit I didn't

Thanks for the advice man

 

[jessethestoner]

He talks about it on the potcast ep he did with scabby. Maybe direwolfog did as well
Charles is online to some extent as well, he could straighten things out, or further muddle things

Is bigbag still around? Would love to talk to him

 

[med-man]

Ya exactly. I've ask cs In the past he has been good and open to respond. But like me at the best of times having articulation fails. Making matters worse.

Even looking at vendor forums vs cs and other guys nothing adds up other then the origins story.

I've grown the vancouver gc. Pkxhp. So one of the pink clones in circulation is that one from that pollination. It's still alive and well on vancouver Island. With 3 or more pinks lol

I'm just getting bombarded with people I've sent the short stocky one too. What I consider the "original" but the only thing pink about it is some stem veins and pre harvest fading.

I get it. Things can get mixed up in translation, branding can be conflated (all 4 vancouver Island pink can technically be called Island pink lol) etc.

It's a bummer for me to just share co eradicating scrennshots with them then have them respond with more contradicting sreenshots

Simple chronology should clear the smoke and mirror show

Last time cs and I spoke privately. He said there was no real original pink left its lost. Then openly on another platform a week later said the original is available in the l.p. system. I spoke to one of the l.p. they said it's from barney's. Cs brags about making pink for barney's and winning cups with it for them...next week he says barney's pink is fake haha. It's a nightmare

 

[FletchF.Fletch]

Pink Kush is still out there. Different from the Old strain from CS. Check out the Kanak Pink Stigma from Indian Landrace Exchange.

Lots of strains called Pink for their light purple calyxes, but not enough with Pink pistils/hairs/stigma.

 

[med-man]

Pink Kush is still out there. Different from the Old strain from CS. Check out the Kanak Pink Stigma from Indian Landrace Exchange.

Lots of strains called Pink for their light purple calyxes, but not enough with Pink pistils/hairs/stigma.

Thanks man. I will check it out

My presoviet kabuls push out pinks pistils 25% of the time. Nothing like any "pinks" I've grown or seen. Huge towering plants. None had pink pistils

 

[RobFromTX]

Pink Kush is still out there. Different from the Old strain from CS. Check out the Kanak Pink Stigma from Indian Landrace Exchange.

Lots of strains called Pink for their light purple calyxes, but not enough with Pink pistils/hairs/stigma.

You have a good experience with indian landrace? They seem to have a pretty mixed reputation. Expensive beans for sure

 

[FletchF.Fletch]

Hey @RobFromTX , no I haven't tried their beans. I think Mandala is the only one offering them who ships,to the States. Expensive for sure.

 

[tobedetermined]

Hey med

Why are you posting a bunch of phone screen shots? They are absolutely meaningless as proof about anything. Do you want to see me post some screenshots that show Taylor Swift riding a dinosaur on stage at her concert in Paris?

And then . . . surprise, surprise you just happen to have . . .

Unless you are going to get Dave on this thread, any further speculation is just that.

 

[ojd]

Pink kush from Amsterdam when Reeferman turned up in Amsterdam years back was really nice , real tasty and potent, sold at Amnesia coffeshops( barney's wife/girlfriend i thibk ?) and then barney's coffeshop after they ripped Charles off for all the clones when they were working together and barneys renamed most of them.

Such a shady game the seed business

 

[RobFromTX]

Someone ripped Charles off. Ironic

 

[FletchF.Fletch]

Someone ripped Charles off. Ironic

Hurt people hurt people.

 

[RobFromTX]

Hurt people hurt people.

Yes sir. Theres a lot of seediness in the seed business

 

[med-man]

Alright guys everyone. Thanks for the info!

Took some advice and dug up some older threads

Forgive any double posting

Continued next post

 

[med-man]

Just to get this out of the way so I can think

-I made pink pain killer with the "pink x black" purple skunk pheno
-I now grow the pink lizard (pink X hp when reef also made bc gc purple kush x lizard (hp)
And what vapor calls Van island king (and big bag) which reef renamed pink

Okay....probably going to need some help here but I think I got it.

1 - Pakistan and pre soviet ghanis are brought to Vancouver Island between 1970-79 (no debate the best and last year for ghani)

2 - over 9 years bagseed from epic flower is tested and no surprise some epic hashplants are found

3 - bikers are Involved in import flower and hash distribution and isolate some elites for domestic production. Why risk import when its safer here or adding another revenue stream. Buy 1980/81 biker buckets are dialed and large scale hydro is born. Using the purple indica aka purple king and green king aka white king (makes sense now as any landrace from there usually are 50%50% purp vs green )

4 - kings crew steadily grows the purple king (now called pink kush) and green king and in comes reef at some point.

5 - some crosses are made with an unknown nevil strain In 87/88 or from 87/88 c kush x king x king making kings cross (pink bx1)

6 - in 2003 reef actually renames purple king cross "pink kush" becuase until he got to Holland he didn't know what kush smelled like (no shit..
His words) it's a better name anyway tbh esp for marketing

7 - 2006 or 2007sh a train wreck in Holland, hes back in bc and pink kush renamed purple king is crossed with the lizard, black seed, skunk, possibly bubba kush (now branded island pink) not to be confused with original island purple king aka original pink kush).

8 - the full moons got me , can't sleep and had to sort this out lol

Now the only thing I can't answer is how do you have king bx3 (im guessing king cross c kush line?) And a pink kush seed line? I guess just 1 is a bc and the other an ibl? No idea.

I've sent the old island purple king back to Ontario. 2 good old boys told me its legit and ts what they mostly grew at the huge brewery busy in barrie? I wasn't there. But why would they lie? They don't sell seeds. They just love the one they grew

Here's vapors purple king pink lizard and old island king (based on all the evidence I ca gather x my own personal experiences)

Old island purple king (old pink)

Pink lizard

I need a break. Will be back tommorrow to spell check this and fact check this beast lol

 

[med-man]

Current Chronological summary:

- pak/af maybe even n India? To Vancouver Island (based on experience I call pre soviet afghani kush)
- keepers found called king and purple king
- purple king name change into "pink kush" from single source origin hashplants
- "pink kush" becomes the legendary clone only and name to mutliple other great hybrids. Some not so great. Old island king, island pink, platinum, pink skunk, pink hp, pink og,
- Spawning kings cross, King bx, ultra pink etc

I call everything else frills at this point. Nothing g wrong with frills. Par for the course.

Would love or appreciate at some point someone cutting and pasting this then making it more accurate if needed.

I did make some x from the old island king and pink lizard last year. Should be some epic progeny in there

My niegbor and good friend just got some of these x to test at his place . He's a retired member and has original purple hashplant (im guessing purple king) and origi al chemo seeds.

He got his pinks im waiting now for for the tradsies

 

[med-man]

Jordan of the island may know more then anyone. But he doesn't post. Bust he does say king is commonly referred to as a cross

 

[med-man]

I found a quote from Charles himself

"King is a Old Island hash Plant along with Jiffy Pot Aka Purple Skunk God buds mother and several other plants they came in on "loads" of Indica Flowers imported with hashish from Pakistan and Afghanistan between 1974 and the Russian invasion in 1979 .

Back than the hippie trail went through Afghanistan all the way to Katmandu where my Friends Currie owned a Hotel and Disco way back in the day .

An American Draft Dodger who Lived on Vancouver Island was sent to Pakistan to buy Hashish for a Motorcycle Club called the "Kings Crew "out of Calgary and Nanaimo later became HA .

They had bought some hashish that was not all the same as what had arrived and "Julio" the guy they sent was a expert of the times . His Job was quality control at that time only Mexican , South American and SE asian flowers had been sold in Canada -USA .

While he was there He saw these Huge lightly seeded indica flowers and got permission to load all available Space with the flowers as they were 10% the cost of hashish .

Many Different types of Flowers arrived over the few years they were sold as "Donkey Dick" "Monkey Tails" and other Names .people had never seen these big Dense Flowers a outdoor Culture had already started on Vancouver Island the best of these strains Were Cultivated and soon after 1980 -81

The first indoor grows were started Growing under Mercury Vapour Lamps the Double bucket growing became part of the land scape Lava Rock became a fixture amongst that crew in the early Days even when I first emerged we had Purple and Pink King and many hash plants King was called hash Plant as was everything that came from the loads I named Pink Kush Pink Kush because after I went to Netherlands I was exposed to Kush type Plants and the smell was the first time we smelled something that smelled like King so I called her "Pink Kush" .

So King was the Signature strains of the MC Kings Crew."