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Pine smelling Indicas

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In my early smoking days I used to get very piney and delicious afghan hashish, but nowadays whan I occationally stumble upon some afghan it's usually pretty low quality. So I wonder what indica variety produces consistant pine buds, landraces (or strains primarely made up of landraces) preferably. I guess Pine tar kush? What other varieties are available in seed form?
 

GoodbyeBlueSky

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Northern Lights often ends up with a fabulous piney taste/smell... it's a good strain for sure (depending on which breeder you choose)...
 
G

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I was going to say Northern Lights also, one of my first grows was Oasis and it was piney.
 

gunnaknow

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You could try Pine bud x G13 from 'G13 Collection Seeds'. Seedboutique stocks it. Never tried it myself. Also, if you want to make piney home made hash, knead a few drops of pine needle essential oil into your bubble/ice hash and then let your hash cure to let the aromas mature and mellow together. Pine needle essential oil is made of terpenes, most of which are already found in cannabis. Use rubber gloves to knead it in because neat essential oils can be irritating to the skin, including neat cannabis essential oil. Once it has been diluted down into hash it can be handled with naked hands with no problem. Use sparingly because it goes a very long way and can overpower hash aroma easily. A few drops goes a very long way.
 
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Bubba Kush also seemed to smell like rich coffee to me, but everyone senses odor and taste differently.
 

Natural

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Nirvana_Papaya said:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned White Rhino, the pine smell is almost unbareable sometimes.

I don't know which breeder you grew your seeds from, but I ran 4 different White Rhino females and none of them smelled like pine.
 
Maybe I'm just lucky...or unlucky...I don't know, but I got mine from Nirvana, and all of them smell sickly sweet piney...at first it was nice, but now it burns my nose and I taste pine for hours... (not even from smoking, just going into the grow room for a little while)
 

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gunnaknow said:
You could try Pine bud x G13 from 'G13 Collection Seeds'. Seedboutique stocks it. Never tried it myself. Also, if you want to make piney home made hash, knead a few drops of pine needle essential oil into your bubble/ice hash and then let your hash cure to let the aromas mature and mellow together. Pine needle essential oil is made of terpenes, most of which are already found in cannabis. Use rubber gloves to knead it in because neat essential oils can be irritating to the skin, including neat cannabis essential oil. Once it has been diluted down into hash it can be handled with naked hands with no problem. Use sparingly because it goes a very long way and can overpower hash aroma easily. A few drops goes a very long way.


Yuuuuucccckkkkkk who would do this. Ruin good hash with something like this. The part about dont handle it with your hands , use rubber gloves, but then after its kneaded into the hash you can handle it , of course you better save the rubberglove for your lung because you will prolly need it. People must have been smoking that soapbar for much to long.
 

gunnaknow

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Babbabud said:
Yuuuuucccckkkkkk who would do this. Ruin good hash with something like this. The part about dont handle it with your hands , use rubber gloves, but then after its kneaded into the hash you can handle it , of course you better save the rubberglove for your lung because you will prolly need it. People must have been smoking that soapbar for much to long.

Sorry but you don't really know what you are talking about. Sorry to be so blunt buddy. You're not the only one that I have had to correct on this matter so don't feel bad. Whilst I personally wouldn't flavor hash because I like my hash just as it is, it is completely safe to use essential oil in small amounts for flavoring hash if someone wants to. I just don't personally want to.

Pine essential oil is almost entirely made up of alpha pinene, beta pinene, limonene, myrcene, beta caryophyllene, beta phellandrene and alpha terpineol. All of which are found in cannabis essential oil. If you extracted the cannabis essential oil out of hash, it too should be handled with rubber gloves in it's pure form. Not because it is dangerous but because pure essential oil can be a mild to medium skin irritant. Once essential oil has been diluted into something else, like a base oil for aromatherapy or hash, it is fine to handle.

It is also fine to smoke in very diluted concentrations, such as the concentrations typically found in hash. The amount of essential oil that one would add to hash ontop of this, is less than the amount of essential oil already found in hash, otherwise you would overpower the hash taste instead of giving it a subtle hint of something else ontop. Given the fact that some cannabis strains contain terpene concentrations that are several times higher than in other strains, increasing the terpene content by 10-50% with pine essential oil is of no significance.

Whether one would want to flavor their hash in the first place is a different matter. I personally wouldn't want to because I like the typically, rich, hashy flavor. The typical hash flavor that we all know comes mostly from myrcene and caryophyllene.
 
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Tripco

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It is common in some parts of Turkey to blend pine oil and hash (there's also blends with pine honey). But i don't see why should one wear rubber gloves to make such a blend? There's no substance in it that would harm someones skin.
 

gunnaknow

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Tripco said:
It is common in some parts of Turkey to blend pine oil and hash (there's also blends with pine honey). But i don't see why should one wear rubber gloves to make such a blend? There's no substance in it that would harm someones skin.

Tripco, I think that you mean pine resin. This is not used for aroma. It is used to bind the hash together with adulterant fillers like powdered cannabis plant material and henna. They also use beeswax and honey as binders. The resulting hash is really just fake hash, often called soap bar.

Pine resin is the sticky, crude resin from pine trees, which contains rosin and essential oils. Pine resin exudes from pine trees when they are injured. It solidifies on the outside of the trees when the volatile essential oils evaporate. This helps to seal up the wound and prevent infection. Rosin is the solid part after the essential oils have evaporated off. Rosin is made of crystallized organic acids. The essential oil is made up of hydrocarbons called terpenes, which are very volatile. When the essential oils are distilled from crude pine resin, it is called turpentine.

The end product is only called pine essential oil when it has been steam distilled from the fresh twigs and needles of the tree, not directly from the crude resin, as turpentine is. The twigs and needles impart a sweet, evergreen aroma to the essential oil. Poor quality pine essential oil lacks sweetness, and has a one dimensional, harsh aroma. Good pine essential oil has a short lived sweetness, not unlike juniper berry oil. Blending a few sparing drops of this into your hash for a subtle aroma is entirely different to using substantial amounts of crude pine resin as a binding agent.
 
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Tripco

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Yes, Gunnaknow, my mistake, i ment pine resin, that's what they blend in hash (i think some greek wines have pine resin too).
 

gunnaknow

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Indeed Slickster. Piney strains are higher in alpha and beta pinene. Citrusy strains tend to be higher in limonene. However, it isn't just about the terpenes when it's a fruity kind of smell. Floral scent from within the flowers also plays a part. The kind of scent that makes roses or tulips smell for instance, which is different to terpene scent. Such scent is much shorter lived than terpene scent and fades quite quickly after drying.

The Slickster said:
Let's not forget the Deep Chunk and the Pine Bud with their Deep Alpha and Beta Pinene frequencies....

I did already mention Pine bud x G13. I believe pure Pine bud is clone only and is hard to come by.
 
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BUDDY BOY

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You must've been board this morning and doing some serious searching.

Thanks, Now I will definitely be getting the MK/SK. I love the pine. You crossed a blockhead to some haze???? That sounds like some serious HEAD-TRIPPING!!!!
 

Laughing Jim

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I have been searching for bud that reeks of pine...
it smell like pine, the dry hits taste of pine...
that's my holy grail bud...
I haven't found it yet.

I suspect it to be associated with Sativa strains.

The best weed I ever smoked was grown from a seed found by me in a bag of Oaxacan Sativa.

That one little plant I grew reeked of pine...the dry hit aid "Warning! This is gonna be some good weed!"
 
ever find bud that smells like other trees? liike cedar/something? i've smelled piney-piney but also sometimes a smell i cant name. hrm.. many, i suppose, but some in the realm of tree
 
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