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~Pimp your Organic Fertilizer~
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DankByNature
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College student with a part-time job
TheMushroomMan
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BC Goodness
BC Goodness
I found these ferts at a local hardware store. They're prepared in Grand Forks, BC and all come in 2 kg pails.
Product name: Gaia Green All-Purpose Fertilizer
Manufacturer: Gaia Green
Fertilizer #'s NPK and other: N-P-K = 4-4-4
Application rates as listed: Top dressing = 2 TBSP/GAL, once per month
Online Source: http://www.gaiagreen.com/
Ingredients: Alfalfa meal, steamed bone meal, blood meal, glacial rock dust, mined potassium sulphate, humate complex, rock phosphate, greensand, kelp meal, gypsum
This has been my vegetative fertilizer for the last month or so. Whenever a minor deficiency turns up, a EWC Tea with 1 tbsp of this goodness solves all problems (So far, at least.) I love this stuff. I'd have to try really hard to overfeed with it. $15 CDN for 2 kg.
Product name: Gaia Green Power Bloom
Manufacturer: Gaia Green
Fertilizer #'s NPK and other: N-P-K = 2-8-4
Application rates as listed: Top dressing = 2 TBSP/GAL, once per month
Online Source: http://www.gaiagreen.com/
Ingredients: Fishbone meal, steamed bone meal, glacial rock dust, mined potassium sulphate, humate complex, rock phosphate, greensand, kelp meal, gypsum, bat guano
I just picked up some of this yesterday ($15 CDN/2 kg), as I'm going to load up my flowering soil with ~3 tbsp/gal. Gaia Green also sells High-P Bat Guano for $20/2kg, which I might grab if the babies want more P once we start flowering.
These are the first ferts I've gotten specifically for the sweet herb, and my first time growing it. I really love the Gaia Green line because not only is it cheap, but it literally has everything that I can think of putting in a well-rounded fertilizer. I was going to buy bone meal, blood meal, alfalfa meal, glacial rock dust, greensand, gypsum, guano, etc, and mix my own ferts, but then I found this - everything I need for a fraction of what I thought I'd have to spend.
Anyways, that is what my girls are eating. Does it look like a balanced diet, or should I stock up on some additional ferts?
-Mushie
BC Goodness
I found these ferts at a local hardware store. They're prepared in Grand Forks, BC and all come in 2 kg pails.
Product name: Gaia Green All-Purpose Fertilizer
Manufacturer: Gaia Green
Fertilizer #'s NPK and other: N-P-K = 4-4-4
Application rates as listed: Top dressing = 2 TBSP/GAL, once per month
Online Source: http://www.gaiagreen.com/
Ingredients: Alfalfa meal, steamed bone meal, blood meal, glacial rock dust, mined potassium sulphate, humate complex, rock phosphate, greensand, kelp meal, gypsum
This has been my vegetative fertilizer for the last month or so. Whenever a minor deficiency turns up, a EWC Tea with 1 tbsp of this goodness solves all problems (So far, at least.) I love this stuff. I'd have to try really hard to overfeed with it. $15 CDN for 2 kg.
Product name: Gaia Green Power Bloom
Manufacturer: Gaia Green
Fertilizer #'s NPK and other: N-P-K = 2-8-4
Application rates as listed: Top dressing = 2 TBSP/GAL, once per month
Online Source: http://www.gaiagreen.com/
Ingredients: Fishbone meal, steamed bone meal, glacial rock dust, mined potassium sulphate, humate complex, rock phosphate, greensand, kelp meal, gypsum, bat guano
I just picked up some of this yesterday ($15 CDN/2 kg), as I'm going to load up my flowering soil with ~3 tbsp/gal. Gaia Green also sells High-P Bat Guano for $20/2kg, which I might grab if the babies want more P once we start flowering.
These are the first ferts I've gotten specifically for the sweet herb, and my first time growing it. I really love the Gaia Green line because not only is it cheap, but it literally has everything that I can think of putting in a well-rounded fertilizer. I was going to buy bone meal, blood meal, alfalfa meal, glacial rock dust, greensand, gypsum, guano, etc, and mix my own ferts, but then I found this - everything I need for a fraction of what I thought I'd have to spend.
Anyways, that is what my girls are eating. Does it look like a balanced diet, or should I stock up on some additional ferts?
-Mushie
CC's Fertilizer Mix
CC's Fertilizer Mix
Here's a mix that I made up and use as well as give to OMMP organic growers.
These are in 50 lbs. bags and all of the seed meals are organic and non-GMO varieties.........
Alfalfa Meal (Central Oregon) - 3-0.5-2.5 @ $16.80
Canola Meal (Montana) - 5-0-2 @ $35.00
Cottonseed Meal - 5-2-1 @ $$22.00
Linseed Meal (Flax, cold pressed) (Montana) 6-1-1 @ $23.00
Soybean Meal - 8-0-1 @ $42.00
The following are split-bags and are 25 lbs. units......
Kelp Meal (organic) (Acadian Seaplants, Ltd.) - 1-0-2 @ $30.50
Fish Bone Meal (organic) (Wilbur-Ellis) - 5-16-0 @ $10.80
Crab Meal (Marion Ag) (Oregon) - 4-1-0 @ $18.00
Fish Meal (organic) (Wilbur-Ellis) - 10-4-0 @ $18.50
Neem Seed Meal - (organic) (Down-To-Earth) - 5-1-2 @ $30.00
Archipelago Bat Guano - 0-7-0 @ $22.00
I add about 1 cup of this mix to 1 cf. of my soil mix.
There's also 2 cups of a mineral mix added to each cubic foot of potting soil.
I water with fish hydrolysate and some form of kelp/seaweed extract product once a week with added humic and fulvic acid.
CC
CC's Fertilizer Mix
Here's a mix that I made up and use as well as give to OMMP organic growers.
These are in 50 lbs. bags and all of the seed meals are organic and non-GMO varieties.........
Alfalfa Meal (Central Oregon) - 3-0.5-2.5 @ $16.80
Canola Meal (Montana) - 5-0-2 @ $35.00
Cottonseed Meal - 5-2-1 @ $$22.00
Linseed Meal (Flax, cold pressed) (Montana) 6-1-1 @ $23.00
Soybean Meal - 8-0-1 @ $42.00
The following are split-bags and are 25 lbs. units......
Kelp Meal (organic) (Acadian Seaplants, Ltd.) - 1-0-2 @ $30.50
Fish Bone Meal (organic) (Wilbur-Ellis) - 5-16-0 @ $10.80
Crab Meal (Marion Ag) (Oregon) - 4-1-0 @ $18.00
Fish Meal (organic) (Wilbur-Ellis) - 10-4-0 @ $18.50
Neem Seed Meal - (organic) (Down-To-Earth) - 5-1-2 @ $30.00
Archipelago Bat Guano - 0-7-0 @ $22.00
I add about 1 cup of this mix to 1 cf. of my soil mix.
There's also 2 cups of a mineral mix added to each cubic foot of potting soil.
I water with fish hydrolysate and some form of kelp/seaweed extract product once a week with added humic and fulvic acid.
CC
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Carl Carlson
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awesome thread.
I can't seem to find K-Mag (Sul-Po-Mag) locally and Espoma discontinued it's Sulfate of Potash (0-0-50) product, but there is a store nearby with several of the 5 pound bags left from last Summer.
awesome thread.
I can't seem to find K-Mag (Sul-Po-Mag) locally and Espoma discontinued it's Sulfate of Potash (0-0-50) product, but there is a store nearby with several of the 5 pound bags left from last Summer.
Can you use vegetable based nutrients instead of molassis? For instance can you substitute Canna Vega or BioBizz Grow for molassis? It pretty much smells like molassis.
B
Big Country
Product name: Dr. Earth 4-4-4
Manufacturer: Dr. Earth Inc company is in california
Blend of: Alaskan fish bone meal, cottonseed meal, alfalfa meal, feather meal, minced potassium sulfate, cold water kelp meal & seaweed extract with proBiotic and added mycorrhizae.
This is a new product in my parts, I usually use Epsoma Biotone starter plus with good results. When I opened the bag of Dr earth I could really smell the seaweed. I have made a few teas with this and my girl loved it. I like this blend it seems like a complete blend, for a beginner organic gardener, it has worked great for me
www.drearth.com
Manufacturer: Dr. Earth Inc company is in california
Blend of: Alaskan fish bone meal, cottonseed meal, alfalfa meal, feather meal, minced potassium sulfate, cold water kelp meal & seaweed extract with proBiotic and added mycorrhizae.
This is a new product in my parts, I usually use Epsoma Biotone starter plus with good results. When I opened the bag of Dr earth I could really smell the seaweed. I have made a few teas with this and my girl loved it. I like this blend it seems like a complete blend, for a beginner organic gardener, it has worked great for me
www.drearth.com
captinknots
Member
how are you using it in your tea? like 1/2 cup per 5 gal?
captinknots
Member
I want to make a good veg tea. But i dont want to over do it. I have high N guano, I also have alfalfa meal. i want to use a base that has ewc, molasses, and liquid seaweed or liquid Karma or both. I also have some of that dr earth 4-4-4 listed above.
how would you guys formulate a good veg tea with those ingredients? I dont have to use all of them, id just like to configure them the best way i can for these girls.
what would you guys do?
how would you guys formulate a good veg tea with those ingredients? I dont have to use all of them, id just like to configure them the best way i can for these girls.
what would you guys do?
CherChezLaGhost
Member
Big Country I use the Epsoma biotone starter plus too. I like it. My seedlings love it
ClosetAdvocate
Member
This is a great idea.
I'm subscribing.
Haven't grown MJ in years, but I use Alaska brand fish emulsion for my vegetable garden and for the flowers and stuff at my house. I use it mostly because it's organic and because it's available locally. Just a little annoyed that they don't have the bloom formula locally.
I'm subscribing.
Haven't grown MJ in years, but I use Alaska brand fish emulsion for my vegetable garden and for the flowers and stuff at my house. I use it mostly because it's organic and because it's available locally. Just a little annoyed that they don't have the bloom formula locally.
S
schwagg
i don't think the bloom formula is "organic".
C
Carl Carlson
http://www.bradfieldorganics.com/PDF/KelpMealSellSheet.pdf
I just found this, have been looking for kelp meal nutrient info. for a while and thought it was worth sharing
I just found this, have been looking for kelp meal nutrient info. for a while and thought it was worth sharing
ion
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Product name: organic raw milk
Manufacturer: cow,goat,human
Fertilizer #'s NPK and other: NA
Application rates as listed: variable...2tbl-1gal
Online Source:.....riiiight.....
www.greenpasture.org/community/?q=node/228
http://www.nodpa.com/production_forage_raw_milk_on_pasture_july_2010.shtml
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-259235.html
so, pot aint grass..<sic....but ya cant screw with the pasturites when it comes to eeking out yields. i been doing this for 3-4 months now, havent been able to observe any sig. changes because im too F'n busy.....but the plants look/smell/smoke very good. know of many farmers in the area been doing this for years....they mix raw milk with neptune's harvest seaweed and spary it thru trucks onto the fields.......tall, lush green grass.....the cows love it.
finding access to raw milk is a joke in most states, watch out for the feds if you live in PA or OH.......but you can find it if you look, lotsa farmers are happy to sell it raw.....they can charge less than retail and still make 100% profit.
and dont feed it all to the plants! i highly advise to drink it yourselves...im not a milk dude, but i am with organic raw.....you can even have a healthy drink on the evenings with a white raw russian!
toodles
feed the little ones in the soil.
Manufacturer: cow,goat,human
Fertilizer #'s NPK and other: NA
Application rates as listed: variable...2tbl-1gal
Online Source:.....riiiight.....
www.greenpasture.org/community/?q=node/228
http://www.nodpa.com/production_forage_raw_milk_on_pasture_july_2010.shtml
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-259235.html
so, pot aint grass..<sic....but ya cant screw with the pasturites when it comes to eeking out yields. i been doing this for 3-4 months now, havent been able to observe any sig. changes because im too F'n busy.....but the plants look/smell/smoke very good. know of many farmers in the area been doing this for years....they mix raw milk with neptune's harvest seaweed and spary it thru trucks onto the fields.......tall, lush green grass.....the cows love it.
finding access to raw milk is a joke in most states, watch out for the feds if you live in PA or OH.......but you can find it if you look, lotsa farmers are happy to sell it raw.....they can charge less than retail and still make 100% profit.
and dont feed it all to the plants! i highly advise to drink it yourselves...im not a milk dude, but i am with organic raw.....you can even have a healthy drink on the evenings with a white raw russian!
toodles
feed the little ones in the soil.
So hard to find stuff where I live this time of the year that I called up one of the local Amsoil guys and picked-up some Aggrand 4-3-3 Fish/Kelp based. Aggrand 0-0-8 Kelp/Potash and their "Liquid Bone Meal" 0-12-0. I will go back to the Eco Nutrients in the spring when the local retailer opens back up. My mix is probably close to good enough to have survived on some simple teas and bubbled potions, but I find my time to be limited and I caved. The Aggrand came to $31.00 for the quarts (1 of each).
Here is a link....
http://www.aggrand.com/
Regards and Merry Christmas!!!
Here is a link....
http://www.aggrand.com/
Regards and Merry Christmas!!!
I feel like I should add that I believe the greatest feed/fert is the mix the girls are in and the top dressing/ACT that they get from my extremely diverse compost and the local worm castings I get. Kind of funny..... I can get really good worm castings and lots of great compost material all year. My compost barrel is cooking alfalfa, willow leaves, maple leaves, coffee grounds, veg scraps, ground egg shells, hardwood ash/char, rabbitt manure, molasses, grass clips and kelp meal at about 155F right now!! But the garden centers and nursery centers close for a couple of months due to harsh winter conditions.
MagicChef
Member
Soil mix needed
Soil mix needed
Hi everyone, Im a relative newbie to indoor growing(1.5 years) and to be honest have always had problems with feeding. Im looking for something simpler.Im using Botanicare organic nutrients this time around ( Botanicare Grow/Botanicare Bloom and Liquid Karma. Ive got a nice big bag of sunshine #4 and some perlite. Im looking for some opinions on soil mixes to help carry me through the grow. I'd like to stay as organic as I can with the nutes but I think they lack a bit. I put an airstone in my water bucket a day or so before I plan on watering and this helps to oxeginate. So what kind of mixes have done you good in the past? Ive got good outdoor compost I was thinking about steamboiling and taking inside. That may be risky though...do to bugs? Basically Id like to feed with the botanicare but also have a good ( not overdone) soil recipe...
Soil mix needed
Hi everyone, Im a relative newbie to indoor growing(1.5 years) and to be honest have always had problems with feeding. Im looking for something simpler.Im using Botanicare organic nutrients this time around ( Botanicare Grow/Botanicare Bloom and Liquid Karma. Ive got a nice big bag of sunshine #4 and some perlite. Im looking for some opinions on soil mixes to help carry me through the grow. I'd like to stay as organic as I can with the nutes but I think they lack a bit. I put an airstone in my water bucket a day or so before I plan on watering and this helps to oxeginate. So what kind of mixes have done you good in the past? Ive got good outdoor compost I was thinking about steamboiling and taking inside. That may be risky though...do to bugs? Basically Id like to feed with the botanicare but also have a good ( not overdone) soil recipe...
