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(PIC)...New Root Mass Utilization Idea!?....Guiding the Ganja!

b10narybud

Member
Hello,

So, i'm just sittin around this morning brainstorming like I usually do. I came up with this idea. I'm not sure if its been done or not before or if it would work....

Problem With Soil Growing:

One common problem us soil growers have is root mass and its utilization of soil space. Commonly when marijuana grows, it grows straight down to the bottom of the pot with very little branching out until it hits a barrier (the pot) where then it branches out and crawls along the edge of the pots and becomes root bound. The problem with this is that commonly, this leaves a big void where there is no roots between the edge of the pot and the middle of the pot. Then, to combat this, we commonly transplant and re-pot causing much un-needed stress to the plant. I believe I may have found a solution to this problem which requires minor work and might not require repotting.

Idea:

The idea is based on the fact that the roots hit bottom and crawl along any edge they find. My solution is to create a pot with a matrix of thin layers opening on opposite ends. When a seed is planted, it will grow down, hit this artificial barrier, and then crawl along the edge until it finds the other opening. Small holes throughout this barrier could also be utilized sortof like channels to selectively allow some, but not all roots to pass through. Holes and channels would also allow for a sufficeint flow of water.

As the plant grows, this intricuit matrix of roots will wrap around each layer and fill each progressive layer fully with roots and maximize the root to soil utilization ratio. It would effectivly allow your plant to maximize water and nutrient uptake since the roots would be fully spread out through all parts of the soil. This would eliminate the need for replanting since from the get go your plant with be utilizing the soil space much more efficiently.

I believe this is a idea that would work and would initally require much less work and time to set up than it would take to do multiple pot replants during the course of a grow while at the same time reducing the stress the plant encounters during it's life.

Here is a picture that I drew to demonstrate the concept:




 
G

Guest

sounds good but you never know till you try it

do you plan to do this?

would it work for a micro grow?
 

b10narybud

Member
It was a little too late when I thought of this for utilization on my own grow. It will most definatly be something I will be considering for my next grow. My plants are just too far along to incorporate it anymore now during the grow. But, I think it would be a great idea for somebody to utilize if you are just starting or planning to start a grow soon.
 

Endo

IcMag Resident Comic Relief
Veteran
great idea.. next time i start some seedlings i will give it at try. its a good theory.
 
Start simple. Take one flat peice of plastic with a few holes (so there is no stagnant water table) and put it about 4 inches down. I would believe that just one barrier would make it spread underground, like a mirror image of LST.
 

TGT

Tom 'Green' Thumb
Veteran
Cool idea, I don't know if it would benefit the plant, but definitely warrants an experiment. The only problem I could see is we would never be able to transplant to another pot. Great idea though! Like to see someone try it and post their findings.

TGT
 
G

Guest

It would be a good idea,except for the fact that transplantation not only doesnt cause stress it totally revitalizes her when done correctly.I'm not pissing on your idea bro,but I dont want newbies to look at transplantation as a negative,it surely isn't.The problem you describe occurs when you start a seedling or new cut in a 1 gal container or larger,you will end up with a "big empty" in the middle no doubt its a bad utilization of available media.The answer for me anyway is to always start in a 4 inch nusery container and let my cuts get around 10 inches tall before transplantation,when I find myself having to water every other day because the root system has become extensive.When I transplant,the rootball has filled the container and you can see the "swirls" you describes as they grow upward along the sides,but this is definately not a rootbound condition,its just time to transplant.Very interesting idea though bro,I had had to put in my 2 cents about transplantation and its benefits.There are benefits and zero negatives I can come up with to transplantation
 

Pimpslapped

Member
I thought of something along these lines (Though taking a slightly different track with implementation).

Only real problems I see are ensuring that you get sufficient flow of water through the system with each watering to achieve saturation. And also removing the root mass/dividers when the plant is done.

Hmmm... maybe set it up with the dividers as closely fitted plates that are put together in a small frame that fits inside the pot. That way the root mass/soil can be removed en mass from the pots without undue difficulty. Could have clips/braces holding the plates in position set on the sides, so you can remove those and easily separate the plates while dismantling the root mass (Can't really call it a ball in this situation).

Another idea I had involved growing in long pipes set at an angle/with bends perhaps to give a long, narrow chamber for root growth... but this seems to be overly impractical, especially working as I do with soil.

I'm pondering how to build a stacking pot system to tinker with, but laziness is defeating me as always.
 
G

Guest

Man thats a great point that needs to be emphasized for the newbies,100% saturation.Thats why its important to learn the dry and saturated weights of your containers,just because you get runoff doesnt mean you've achieved total saturation.It really cant be emphasized enough,sing along with me in the spirit of the classical masters OK here we go Saaaaaturation:Saaaaaturation,saturation saturation satuuuration.Halleleu I mean saaaatuartion saaaaaturation..I dont hear you...
 
TGT said:
Cool idea, I don't know if it would benefit the plant, but definitely warrants an experiment. The only problem I could see is we would never be able to transplant to another pot. Great idea though! Like to see someone try it and post their findings.

TGT
But when you transplant, don't you just take the whole dirtball from the smaller container and put it into a larger one? Since nothing inside the dirtball is being disturbed, it shouldn't be an issue. You might just need to add another, though larger, barrier for the larger container.
 

Pimpslapped

Member
speedracer-x said:
But when you transplant, don't you just take the whole dirtball from the smaller container and put it into a larger one? Since nothing inside the dirtball is being disturbed, it shouldn't be an issue. You might just need to add another, though larger, barrier for the larger container.

I think TGT's comment was refering to the original posters drawing. That pic shows the barriers as part of the pot itself, which would make transplanting rather difficult.
 
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