Photo Sensors

[crawdad]

Hi,
I have heard that the photo sensors are located in the top of the plant. If you cut the very top out of a plant what does that do to the photo period? The plant had just been sexed so was into about 2 weeks of 12/12...

want to use the plant for a mother so I decided to take the top and try to get it get bushy and provide a lot of clones......I dont want to waste an opportunity for another great plant so I took the top, dipped it in rootone and put it in some promix and then up on a shelf out of the direct light...hoping it will root...

Anyway, thats the question so thanks for any replies!

Crawdad

 

[crawdad]

Hi,
I did not think this was a dumb question but I guess you never know..

I always heard the top was the control center.

Crawdad

 

[Guest]

Not all strains will develop into short, bushy plants. Have you studied the propagation of marijuana? Understanding these beautiful plants requires some homework on your part. There is so much to learn and the techniques can be found in books by respected authors, Cervantes, Van Patten, Rosenthal, et. al. They are a great reference resource.

The reason I responded to you in this manner is that the question is about a very basic procedure common in horticulture. JJ Scorpio is another respected Guru and has a sticky on "cloning" here in the forums.

TyStik

 

[crawdad]

Hi,
Thanks for the reply ty-stik. I have studied some horticulture, but I do not think ALL horticulture techniques can apply to weed...weed has its own set of rules...there is no other plant like it...

I have read robert c. clark (marij botany) and have been growin for about 20 years..fact is I used to know this but my memory is not so good anymore..I guess I could go to a dry old book but it is much better for me to have conversation...

I also know I could spend a lifetime reading everything ever printed, that's okay but not always the answer... I also want to point out that the question is not really that basic, it concerns the photo period and the part of the plant that senses and controls the plant..I guess every tip or shoot has the potential to sense the photo period...I guess I was hoping maybe someone has some new fresh information or a different idea? i know a plant can bloom without the top....i grew up toppin plants and growin in the outdoors.....

i realize that there are strains that grow short and bushy like an afghan, or some that grow tall and spread out like a christmas tree, Michoacan or Aculpoco Gold...I saw a skunk x afghani that grew into a large ball about 4 feet high...so yeah there is almost everything you can imagine out there..if you cross a tall plant with a short plant you will get some of each type and some no human has ever seen before....not too many other plants can pull that off...

I also know that if I go out and top my pot patch about june I can get a nice sack of killer tops that will knock your socks off...resin on the end of the joint and your eyes swollen...and double the number of shoots...but there is a tradeoff...a lot of buds or one main top? hard choice...

but back to the subject...if you have a tall plant and you would like to cause it to get bushy and make the branches below the top grow out more..(maybe you want to make a clone mother) you can either make the top the lowest bud in the bunch or cut it..( i do not usually damage the plant to get it to do what I want but it works after some delay and stress)..in this case I took the very top and wanted to keep it and turn it into another plant ( i know how to make clones), i was just wondering what happens to the rest of the plant, all of a sudden the top is cut, I think this causes some shock...but not as bad as damaging the main stalk.

the plant was put back in 24/7 light...I am guessing that it will revert back after it realizes the lights are not going out anymore....so yeah I guess I could figure all this out myself...thanks anyway..for your comments

crawdad

 

[TrichomeWarrior]

LST can also lead to bushiness, as the inner branches are exposed to more light thus they grow more.
kinda sounds like you answered your own question above.
good luck.

 

[DiscoDuck]

The plant had just been sexed so was into about 2 weeks of 12/12...want to use the plant for a mother/QUOTE]

if you want to use the plant for a mother, why do your have it in flower?

 

[crawdad]

Clones and tops

Clones and tops

Hi,
I have the plant in flowering to determine the sex of the plant...once I got the answer I was looking for I wanted to make some clones...so I wanted to see how the very tip top would do for a clone and make the rest of the plant kick in..

I have a few LST plants...first try and so far looks great..

thanks for the replies..

crawdad

 

[Downswing]

Just a tip for the future.

Take a clone from all the "mothers" and root them and hit em to flower. That way you will know which one is male and which one is female without starting to flower the whole plant.

In theory you can go back to vegetative state, but what I've read, it takes weeks for plant to get back to vegetative state.

 

[crawdad]

Hi,
Downswing...thanks for the tip...that is a good idea..

my problem is time...all of that would take an extra month to pull off at the very least..i usually sex the plant, take some clones and veg them for a few weeks then put them in 12/12..that is pretty quick...

I have heard of a few different ways...

thanks again..

crawdad

 

[DiscoDuck]

good luck rooting the tops, i've never been successful with those. older shoots are easier to root

 

[crawdad]

hi,
yeah rooting the top is tricky...i just got a pollen chuck top to take root but it took a while..

had no luck with the tops of skunk #1 or big bud...

durban poison is hanging in there...

pollen chuck is damn hard to clone...so far...

the shoots were not perfect but white widow shoots of the same size have no problem..

i am curious about this pollen chuck of cores...there aint no telling what it may turn out to be..i have heard that nobody has finished one...i aint sure how you get seeds without flowering but that does not mean much..most of you folks on the site forgot more than i ever knew anyway..

i got lucky and got a male and a female out of two PC beans..both are vigorous and very healthy...trying to copy it...but will have to wait for some better clone material..

i gave away all of the pc beans i had! man did i ever screw up...

anyway thanks to all for their feedback..

crawdad