pH Problem?

[duts]

All 3 of my plants are showing this damage in varying degrees of severity. Is this a pH problem like I think it is?

This pic is from my last grow but my current ones are showing the early signs of this. Only the oldest leaves on 2 have gotten as bad as this so I want to stop it ASAP.

 

[duts]

Oh yea my pH was 5 last night, after flushing this afternoon its closer to 5.5-6. I've only fed once with grow and vigor nutes at the strength listed on the bottle.

 

[duts]

Bump... no one has any ideas? I really rather not lose these plants considering these aren't bag seed like my last grow.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Sorry, nowhere near enough information to tell.

 

[dyno]

Need more info... what medium are you using? If it's soil then you've probably got lockout so get your ph up to 6.5-6.8

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

hey duts, fill out the form in the sticky and we'll figure something out.

 

[Core]

heya mate..i think you overdid it a bit..although its just a guestimate i make....looking at the hight of the plant she's just a baby...and you should Not feed the first couple of week(s)
it also depends on what you use for soil....is it nutrient rich or not?

nhow....and if you start feeding the plant...you should take in consideration that you should not start off with a compleet dosage...you have to build that up...
so i think you are toasting your small one

 

[duts]

Sorry for not giving enough info, heres the form. I also attached pics of my current plants (again the first pic was from my last grow, just the same problems).

SOIL: FFOF

How long has this problem been going on?
1 week

What STRAIN are you growing?
Double Diesel Ryder and Easy Ryder

What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)
Seed

What is the age of your plants?
Biggest almost 3 weeks, others 2 and a half

How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now?
Since day 1

How Tall are the plants?
6 or 7 inches

What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
Veg

What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)
None

What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)
2 liter bottles

What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)
FFOF with added perlite

What Nutrient's are you using?
Liquid Earth

How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
I followed the bottles directions for vegging plants

How often are you feeding?
Only once

If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?

What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
Vigor first, shake, then grow

What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
Not sure

What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?
Now its about 6

What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?
Drops

How often are you watering?
Every 1-2 days depending on the weight of the bottle (why are they going through water so fast?)

When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?
A week ago? Around that

What size bulb are you using?
400w HPS, a few days I had to switch to 108w of daylight fluoros because of a heat wave

What is the distance to the canopy?
1.5 feet

What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)
30%-40%

What is the canopy temperature?
80f-85f

What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)
Day is closer to 85, night closer to 80

What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Just a fan, its in an open closet

Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?
Fan

Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
No, it moves air over the canopy though

Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?
More like constantly dry

Is your water HARD or SOFT?
Distilled/dehumidifier water only

What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
Distilled/dehumidifier water only

Are you using water from a water softener?
No

Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?
One Double Diesel topped itself but other then that no

Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?
FF Don't Bug Me and Serenade have both been used once about a week ago and then again 3 days later as preventative measures

Are plant's infected with pest's?
No

Sorry for the bad picture quality, I took these with my webcam. I will get some from my digital camera as soon as I can.

You can see how stunted and damaged the Easy Ryder is, it was started the same time as the smaller DDR and its half the size.

 

[lowrdr]

looks like you cooked them with nute burn IMO.....

 

[duts]

The problem started a day or 2 before I fed them since I thought it was a deficiency.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Looks burned from the nutes imo too. FFOF should be good with just water pretty much the whole life for an AF. Maybe a little something mid to late flower but it's pretty hot outta the bag, again imo.

 

[lowrdr]

if it started before you fed them then its probably is a deficiency or overwatering. how warm are the tops of the leaves? it coud be heat damage from the bulbs

 

[duts]

I think I got it back under control, they all are showing new growth, even the little Easy Ryder for the first time in a long time. Hopefully it was just the pH and as long as I stay on top of it they won't have this happen again.

 

[KaptKid]

Looks like a pH problem to me. You need to flush and check pH with run off. The only way you will know forsure.

I having the same problem with my AK47 x Diesel

I've been fighting soil pH problems for my last three grows . Hope I get it under controll this time

 

[*mr.mike*]

Do those bulbs have to be so close?

 

[dominicangreen]

flush your soil with plain water ph @ 6.8 when flushing fox farm soil has nutts in them water should of been good for a few weeks of vegg till leaves got alittle light on color then you could of hit it with mild nutrients and also its time you up the size of them pots
i know they are full of roots you also have root bound but first flush then wait few days them transplant.
note when you grow in soil you want to put soil in a foam cup water with ph'd water and get a reading on run off that way you know what your working with i also do check tds reading and if needed to up my ph i use powder lime i had this happen month ago i dont check the happy frog soil and had same problems same company makes the soil fox farm
the ph was 4.3-4.7 and TDS was around 3000 PPM lots of nutts for now on i will be testing before i plant cant trust lables

 

[dominicangreen]

i bought powder lime at lowes for 7$ called Soil DR. Garden Lime for 40 pound bag
the stuff works great has mag and cal
this with the flush will make you happy bro

 

[BooleanCisco]

I say flush it no matter what. Get your PH right and hit it with a max of 1/2 strength nutes and work your way up. FFOF has a good 2 weeks or nutes in it already.

My .02