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pH, overwatering? filled out form and pictures

confused

Member
Strain of Mj? mdanzig blueberry fem, cjxnycd fem
Hydroponic or soil? soil
From seed or clone? seed
Age of plant in question? 4-5 weeks
What stage (Veg/Flower; how many days into)? veg
Medium (Soil, Rockwool, Hydroton etc.)? soil
Container/Pot size? went from 16 oz to 3 gallon
Have they been transplanted, if so how long ago? one week ago
If soil, composition ratios (peat moss, perilite, vermiculite etc.)? 40% sphagnum peat 40% MG organic 20% perilite added dolomite lime at like 1-2 tbs per gallon of soil mix
Water runoff Ph? this might be the problem
Nutrients added? guano mix in some, blood mix in some, guano/blood mix in some
fed with organic gem at 5 ml a gallon once (a week ago)
Ratios of nutrients (N% P% K%)? organic gem is 5-5-.5?
Feeding schedule? not fed much unitl last week
When were they last fed/watered? 5 days ago with water/feed
How are you determining when to feed/water (weight, wilting, etc.)? weight, but with new containers it is hard to judge after transplant
TDS/EC/PPM? might be problem
Tap/RO/Distilled water? well water (i live in the middle of nowhere)
Ph before and after adding nutrients? might be the problem
Is your Ph equipment properly calibrated? none
Light intensity/Age of bulb/Wattage? 600 watt
Distance to the canopy? 2-2.5 feet but air cooled
Temps at canopy? 80
Temps at root zone or reservoir? 70
Day/Night temps (Min.-Max.)? 65-80
Current air flow (CFM)? hooked up to a 6 in vortex, sucks the sides of tent in
Is there air blowing directly onto plant? yes
Using CO2? no
Relative humidity? probably low, because there is a dehumidifer in the next room
Growing technique (Scrog, Sog, Supercropping etc.)? normal, with a little bit of training
Has plant recently been pruned, clones taken, fimmed or pinched? yes a week ago for a few
Pests? no
Chemicals used to irradicate? no




Hello, thanks for checkin this out. I am wondering if this leaf drooping/curling under at the tips is due to a high variation in ph or overwatering? Maybe a Ca def?

I need to get at least pH strips to test, Ill get some today.

Here is a cj/ncyd - it seems to be happening more on the blueberry...
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Here is a blueberry.

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Thank you for any help in advance. I'll try and help when i get unconfused.
 

mitsu1

Lifetime Member
ICMag Donor
Like you mentioned above, get the Ph and ppm's meters. I didn't care for the MG organic. Caused problems for me on a test run, out it went. Soil looks dry! Maybe a moisture meter would help. If you only bottle feed them once the soil must be pretty hot. Is the guano/blood mixed in the soil or the bottle? I'd lay off the bottle feed until they look like they need it or you know what the run off looks like....mitsu
 

moonymonkey

Active member
well u can weigh a dry pot same size an mix...wen the pots star geting close to same weight,start to lokk for slight droop,wen to water,stick your finger down in soil an see how far down its dry...weighit at this point..now next time,make sure at this weight its dry down as far ,as the finger indicated,wen it drooped for water...or moisture meter..peace moon/
 

confused

Member
Like you mentioned above, get the Ph and ppm's meters. I didn't care for the MG organic. Caused problems for me on a test run, out it went. Soil looks dry! Maybe a moisture meter would help. If you only bottle feed them once the soil must be pretty hot. Is the guano/blood mixed in the soil or the bottle? I'd lay off the bottle feed until they look like they need it or you know what the run off looks like....mitsu


thanks miitsu and moony,

I am beginning to think that it might be under watering in combination with pH fluctuations.

The bone/blood and guano were mixed with an equal parts peat:MG organic soil mix. I think it might be a little hot too.

Would a small dose of earth juice catalyst and small dose of cal mag be a bad idea for watering tonight? I currently and bubbling a 4 gallon mixture of 30 ml (2 tbs) catalyst and 30 ml (2 tbs) of cal mag?

I ordered and 2nd day aired some 4.5 - 10 pH strips after reading how bad the digital meters are.
 

mitsu1

Lifetime Member
ICMag Donor
I'm thinking underwatered a bit and whatever is in the soil. I don't think the waters ph is far off. But do check it. Digital ppm/ph meters work well, I use cheapo models for years. You added lime to the mix so the soil ph should be o.k. . Doen't seem like too much guano/blood. That brings me to that MG organic. If I were you I would water with plain water. When you get the ph stuff ph the water to 6.0. Water till you get some run off then measure it with a ppm/ec meter. A good flush might be in order. Once the soil is right you can mix your liquid nutes using ph'ed water add your nutes check your ph and ppm. Get them where they need to be. When they start looking hungry give them some food!
I flushed the piss out of the batch of MG I was using. Plants came back threw out the MG..mitsu
 
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