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pH issue??

kmk420kali

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Hey ya'll-- I tried searching, but just stayed confused--
As you can see, I am having probs with canoeing and twisting leafs on my Big Bud, And yellowing around the edges on my Heavy Duty Fruity and Kush--
My tap water, according to the strips, is in the mid 7 range, and my run off is 7.2 ish--
I have been growing for years, and this is my first pH issue...I'm kind of lost as to what to do--

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How long has this problem been going on? about a month--
What STRAIN are you growing? Big Bud, Heavy Duty Fruity, Afghani Kush--
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) Clones--
What is the age of your plants? 4 Months (approx)--
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now? About 1 and 1/2 months--
How Tall are the plants? 2-3 feet--
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? Flower--
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) None, simply veg indoors and put out April 1st--
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) 1 plant per 5 gal pot--
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) Happy frog, with perlite and VeriBlend premium amendment--
What Nutrient's are you using? Sensi Bloom A&B, Big Bud, and Liquid Carbo Load (Advanced Nutrients) and Roots Excelurator--
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful* Sensi Bloom A&B 40 ml , 5 tsp Carbo , 2 tsp big bud, and 5 ml Roots Excelurator-- For a 5 gal mix-- (I stopped using the Roots Excelurator about 2 weeks ago)
How often are you feeding? 2 times a week, right now--
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients? April 1st--
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect) ?????
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used? Don't know
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? 7.2-7.4 range--
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? Strips--
How often are you watering? When buckets get light...2 times a week right now--
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? I feed every watering--
What size bulb are you using? Sun--
What is the distance to the canopy? N/A
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) Outside, it varies--
What is the canopy temperature?
Outside, it varies--
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)Outside, it varies--
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)Outside, it varies--
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? N/A
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? N/A
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? No--
Is your water HARD or SOFT? Hard--
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? Tap water run through a De-Chlorinator--
Are you using water from a water softener? No--
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? No--
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? None--
Are plant's infected with pest's? No--
 

webguy

Active member
same here

same here

i have the yellowing edges just like the picture. i thought it was lack of light or to much nitrogen. its just a small veg cab... is it really a pH issue?
 

theHIGHlander

european ganja growers
Veteran
bro it can only be your PH like what you sayed 7.2 :yoinks: that not good.this can cause all kinds of trouble...
you will have to get yourself some PH down...flush your ladys with water PH to 6.5/6.7 (3 time the amount of your pot 5ltr= 15ltr of water ect)...then when you mix your nutes PH that to the same 6.5/6.7......

have a search around if you cant get PH down there are a few other things people use, lemon juice ect. try leaving you water out for 24hr this will help get rid of all the shit in the water chlorine/ heavy metals ect and will slightly drop the ph aswell (every point helps/counts lol)... remember to check the PH of the feed bfore you put it in the pot....your plan water might be 6.7 but i bet as soon as you start adding nutes to you water the PH will go up ....after a few goes you will get it sorted and wont have to check your PH again

keep it green
highlander
 

kmk420kali

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bro it can only be your PH like what you sayed 7.2 :yoinks: that not good.this can cause all kinds of trouble...
you will have to get yourself some PH down...flush your ladys with water PH to 6.5/6.7 (3 time the amount of your pot 5ltr= 15ltr of water ect)...then when you mix your nutes PH that to the same 6.5/6.7......

have a search around if you cant get PH down there are a few other things people use, lemon juice ect. try leaving you water out for 24hr this will help get rid of all the shit in the water chlorine/ heavy metals ect and will slightly drop the ph aswell (every point helps/counts lol)... remember to check the PH of the feed bfore you put it in the pot....your plan water might be 6.7 but i bet as soon as you start adding nutes to you water the PH will go up ....after a few goes you will get it sorted and wont have to check your PH again

keep it green
highlander

That is the thing, I read that pH down is harmful to my soil/micro organisms, so I just wasn't sure what to use-- I know lime brings it up, but I wasn't sure how to bring it down-- I've heard lemon juice or vinegar, but I don't know what to mix it at--
I run my water through this de-chlorinator, http://www.hydrologicsystems.com/content/view/16/117/
I just have never had pH issues, and really don't understand pH-- Guess it is time to start googling and learn a bit--
 

kmk420kali

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Called my hydro store, and he recommended vinegar, just kept adding til it was 6.8 (I'm using strips, so it isn't exact, took about 2 1/2 tsp per 5 gal)...flushed them...what a pain in the ass, as I am mixing in a 5 gal bucket, adjust pH of each...and flush 23 plants in 5 gal soil!!:yoinks: My area is a freaking muddy mess right now...I could only give each about 7 gals of flush...since my area is now a swamp!!
Hope it works!! *sigh*
 

theHIGHlander

european ganja growers
Veteran
yip you fly abit blind when using ph down/up/ vinigar/lemon..you just have to had a small bit at a time.
time to give the place a wee clean then yeh lol.
keep the freash air moving in there bro and let them dry out a wee bit thay might look abit over waterd but dont worrie about that thay will come good:yes: (you might not have to water for a day or 2) ...
i fucking hate flushing aswell luckly my tap water is about 6.5/6.7 :woohoo: so no as much hassell....

keep it grren
highlander
 

kmk420kali

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yip you fly abit blind when using ph down/up/ vinigar/lemon..you just have to had a small bit at a time.
time to give the place a wee clean then yeh lol.
keep the freash air moving in there bro and let them dry out a wee bit thay might look abit over waterd but dont worrie about that thay will come good:yes: (you might not have to water for a day or 2) ...
i fucking hate flushing aswell luckly my tap water is about 6.5/6.7 :woohoo: so no as much hassell....

keep it grren
highlander

Thanks for the help bro-- No need to worry about moving air...they are outside-- Peace--:headbange
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theHIGHlander

european ganja growers
Veteran
:yoinks:holly shit bro that a nice setup you got there:yes:...outdoors rocks...am hoping to get a few ladys outside this year...man i need to pack up and move to a place that hotter


grow thread???????????????? oh is that what the link is yeh
 
B

bongoie

kmk green frog ? if it compost mix then the soil should beffer the PH . i let my tap water sit for 24H to let chlorine evaporate and it comes down from 7.9 to 7.6
 

kmk420kali

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kmk green frog ? if it compost mix then the soil should beffer the PH . i let my tap water sit for 24H to let chlorine evaporate and it comes down from 7.9 to 7.6

Fox Farm's Happy Frog--
I am using a de-chlorinator--
Hopefully flushing with pH adjusted water will do the trick-- I never really had pH issues before, or maybe just didn't notice them...as my tap water is coming out in the high 7's...after the de-chlorinator, at least now I know about it, and need to get a good meter...and stay on top of it--
Peace--
 

kmk420kali

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Just one more silly li'l question, and I promise I won't ask another til the next time--:nanana:
The leafs are canoed pretty badly, but they are otherwise healthy looking...at least they are (mostly) green, and not "wilty" looking at all...
So my question is, will the canoed leafs straighten out? Or do I just watch the (very little) new growth?
 

minds_I

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Hello all,

KMK, perhaps its your de-chlorinator.....I have read that you should not use the stuff fot aquariums as it is harmful to plants.

You can de-chlorinate with H2O2 very effectively and not introduce harmful chems into your system.

I myself use H2o2 with every watering but it is an excellent de-chlorinator...and cheap.

minds_I
 

kmk420kali

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Veteran
Hello all,

KMK, perhaps its your de-chlorinator.....I have read that you should not use the stuff fot aquariums as it is harmful to plants.

You can de-chlorinate with H2O2 very effectively and not introduce harmful chems into your system.

I myself use H2o2 with every watering but it is an excellent de-chlorinator...and cheap.

minds_I

No, I don't use the drops for aquariums, I have a filter I got at the hydro store-- Here is a link-- http://www.hydrologicsystems.com/content/view/16/117/
 

KharmaGirl

~Resident Puck Bunny~
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Tagged--we're growing the Heavy duty fruity this year as well...gonna watch this thread and any others you have on this strain :D
 

kmk420kali

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Tagged--we're growing the Heavy duty fruity this year as well...gonna watch this thread and any others you have on this strain :D

This is suppose to produce an above average harvest-- I will keep updates on it in the "My Backyard '09", link is in my sig--
Keep in mind tho, that I vegged mine indoors since Jan....They will be harvested in June-ish...so this could give you a nice preview of things to come-- If the Pheno's are aligned--:headbange
 

kmk420kali

Freedom Fighter
Veteran
Just one more silly li'l question, and I promise I won't ask another til the next time--:nanana:
The leafs are canoed pretty badly, but they are otherwise healthy looking...at least they are (mostly) green, and not "wilty" looking at all...
So my question is, will the canoed leafs straighten out? Or do I just watch the (very little) new growth?

Bump....Please-- I need to know how to tell if this problem is taken care of...I am going to check my runoff...but after flushing yesterday, I am leery of putting more water today--:1help:
 

theHIGHlander

european ganja growers
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Bump....Please-- I need to know how to tell if this problem is taken care of...I am going to check my runoff...but after flushing yesterday, I am leery of putting more water today--:1help:

are the leafs cripsy/like glass .if so the wont get any better... they might flaten out if not cripsy but cant say for 100%...dont worrie about them to much. just keep ya eyes out for healthy new growth...as for watering you flushed yeasterday so i would leave them for a couple day to dry out abit (only you can be the judge on this 1 bro what do you think ?do thay need waterd/fed??)...
as for your ph you should be fine..just make sure what goes in is at the right ph and all should be good......no harm i checking your runoff bro..(should only take ya 2min)

keep it green
highlander
 

kmk420kali

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are the leafs cripsy/like glass .if so the wont get any better... they might flaten out if not cripsy but cant say for 100%...dont worrie about them to much. just keep ya eyes out for healthy new growth...as for watering you flushed yeasterday so i would leave them for a couple day to dry out abit (only you can be the judge on this 1 bro what do you think ?do thay need waterd/fed??)...
as for your ph you should be fine..just make sure what goes in is at the right ph and all should be good......no harm i checking your runoff bro..(should only take ya 2min)

keep it green
highlander

They are about 6 weeks into flower...there really isn't much new growth, as far as leaf-- That is why I was wondering if the existing would straighten out-- They are not crispy, just canoed and crooked--
Thank you for answering my question--
 
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