Petitions circulating to SECEDE FROM UNION -- this is going viral (!)

[SpasticGramps]

Would you like to see this expressed in mathematical terms? I could show you. Would that be logical enough for you?

That's the fundamental problem with the Keynesian school. You think everything can be broken down into mathematical models. You ultimately fail to understand that human behavior cannot be mathematically modeled over a long enough time horizon. That it is inherently irrational. You don't have to show us the models. Spare me. Please.

Your school will repeatedly misunderstand the western solvency issue (crisis) as a series of rolling independent liquidity issues until you do figure it out.

 

[unspoken]

So what would you prefer, a currency backed by some other commodity?

Until this hyperinflation hits that's been coming soon for the past 30 years?

Can you give me two examples of a nation coming out of a major recession or depression without a war or major govt spending package?

 

[whodare]

Maybe one backed by your moms assets.

 

[unspoken]

Maybe one backed by your moms assets.

good one.

 

[whodare]

Can you give me two examples of a nation coming out of a major recession or depression without a war or major govt spending package?

Hmm sounds like what we've been saying, except the second option has been tried and failed, now on to the former. (which is what we are advocating preparation for)

Bomb Iran!

 

[SpasticGramps]

Can you give me two examples of a nation coming out of a major recession or depression without a war or major govt spending package?

It would be easier if you named the nations that have been destroyed by wars.

 

[unspoken]

That's the fundamental problem with the Keynesian school. You think everything can be broken down into mathematical models. You ultimately fail to understand that human behavior cannot be mathematically modeled over a long enough time horizon. That it is inherently irrational. You don't have to show us the models. Spare me. Please.

Your school will repeatedly misunderstand the western solvency issue (crisis) as a series of rolling independent liquidity issues until you do figure it out.

We have just been presented with a clear case of why we should retain control over our currency and not give the control to something else and you just completely dismissed it because it's "just fancy book learnin'."

 

[unspoken]

Hmm sounds like what we've been saying, except the second option has been tried and failed, now on to the former. (which is what we are advocating preparation for)

Bomb Iran!

Many economists have said the spending package we tried wasn't big enough. They called it not working before it happened. I do not like war, I wasn't presenting that as a preferred solution, I'm just saying it's worked in the past. I sure as hell hope we don't go to war with Iran, but you have to admit the unemployment rate would drop significantly.

 

[avant gardener]

don't know if anyone else has noticed, but NYC and Emperor Bloomberg seceded a long time ago. just ask Him.

http://politicker.com/2011/11/mayor-bloomberg-i-have-my-own-army-11-30-11/

 

[whodare]

Ha...

I figured you might say that...


Typical spend our way out broken window keynesian.

 

[SpasticGramps]

I understand the benefits of why governments should retain control over their own currency. There is nothing "fancy" about it. Governments come and go. What I'm saying is that ultimately markets (humans acting as a collective in response to resources around them) control currency in the long run.

Book learning is good. People should read more books.

 

[unspoken]

It would be easier if you named the nations that have been destroyed by wars.

Like Japan or Korea? Come on now, you know that's not what I meant.

 

[SpasticGramps]

It would be easier if you named the nations that have been destroyed by wars.

I think we should delve deeper into this one. What do you think? You have to expand your logic consistently. A sovereign actor is ultimately one sovereign actor.

 

[unspoken]

Ha...

I figured you might say that...


Typical spend our way out broken window keynesian.

Yeah, because that's what actually works in practice. Two parties (consumers and producers) stall and stop spending money. Someone has to start spending some money to jump start the cycle.

 

[unspoken]

I think we should delve deeper into this one. What do you think? You have to expand your logic consistently. A sovereign actor is ultimately one sovereign actor.

Ok, Japan, Korea, OR Vietnam.

 

[Jbonez]

good one.

OK, so you are far more capable of criticism than I would have gathered and probably was a bit hasty in my initial, and eww I hate this word, "judgement" of you. I can debate all night but Ive actually just realized something...

Your going toe to toe with some of the most abstract thinkers Ive met so far on this site, and I cant get over your style, its thumping me in the head..

hm.. INTJ? Can you google that acronym and tell me if it describes you? Or I can tell you what that means if you are lazy like me...

You see, they are the scientist type, and are doomed to collide with INTP's, the personalities you are encountering in most of us, philosophers, mathematicians, ect..

Not entirely true because we all have bias in certain cognitive predispositions, but we still collectively agree on things simply because of those inherent cognitive functions.

If you are an INTJ, as I suspect, then I can show you forums where guys like us (intellects) get together and hammer shit out, but while remaining civil, because we all agree that losing civility is only going to lead to nothing. However, INTP and INTJ are water and oil and will never agree, its not possible..

Its the P vs J thing that changes our functions.. We use extroverted intuition as a dominant function, something you wouldnt do, rather using Introverted intuition I believe...

We still think, and never feel however.. youll notice that.
http://personalityjunkie.com/08/intj-vs-intp-type-differences/

 

[unspoken]

Have you guys figured out between this thread and the HAARP thread that I really just like playing devil's advocate?

 

[whodare]

I'm getting giddy now what am I doc?

Free diagnoses is rare these days lol

Thread officially derailed

 

[whodare]

I almost asked if you were MDB, but you probably don't read the hedge..

 

[unspoken]

Haha Jbonez I have taken the myers-briggs and I am indeed INTJ. Nailed it. I can't deny you that, even though it would be fun to imagine the wheel in your head turning while I smoke this j.