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Pests!! Prevention is better than the cure!

badmf

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Once upon a time an avid smoker :joint: decided to become a grower. After searching the land far and wide, found some mags/books and web sites to further their education. And found Seeds Direct too! Happily buying and building a grow, and armed with knowledge of a noobie but with loads of desire, the grows begins.
As time went by, the noobie discovered something odd. A strange pin prick on the leaves. Upon further examination saw a few tiny spider webs and tiny tiny creatures busy, moving back and forth. Alarm Alarm!! :eek: Could it be? Yes the dreaded mite! Yes, there are several ways to address this problem, but lets start with how did this minuscule invader and others get here to begin with.
Sometimes we are very careful with our ph/ppms and light cycles, etc but not our entry into our grows. We casually pass pets, outdoor foilage and bring in supplies from the local hydro store without making certain they are clean of pests! The mite is a very hardy creature and will hibernate in between bad conditions for its existence, only to re-emerge again to plague you and your plants. So lets start with a new protocol with our grows.
Start by; starting clean and staying clean! A new space to be used should be swept, mopped(unless carpeted! :biglaugh:) with a 50% bleach solution, walls and equipment wiped down or place in the room prior to a bug bomb being released.(Carpeted spaces are harder to maintain free from pests and pathogens!) After the space is reasonably sterile, you MUST not ever violate the space again without being completely free of any foreign matter! :mad:
All products from a hydro store could have been handled by someone with mites or other pests in their space. Wash them first with hot water! Clones from others should and must be quarantined for at least two weeks before allowed to enter. A small vacuum cleaner will remove most mold spores and mite eggs from the clothes and should be a routine each time. A few surplus stores and others sell inexpensive paper jumpsuits. Sounds like overkill? Well if you don't want to spend your time battling pests follow it.
Intake vents should have fine screen and periodically sprayed with insect spray. Outside the doorway to larger rooms place a tray with a salt solution or other insect deterent to step into, so don't wear your Bruno Maglis! Using beneficial insects is an easy way to head off any invasion too. Ladybugs, predator mites and praying mantis are but a few of the army of mercs you can employ. There is a pyrethrum bomb that is safe for plants in extreme cases. But a liberal use of neem oil is better early on. Take it seriously before you are in the trenchs fighting the little devils! :whip: So our noobie is happy and so are their plants! And they lived happily ever after too! :wink:
 
G

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Before i get going i make sure the grow is clean -bleach water solution- and i always have a bunch of Safers pest strips in both the veg and bloom rooms even b4 i setup..If i get a problem(havent had one yet-knock on my wooden head)i will use Einstein oil.You can also get disposeable paper slippers like used in Hospitals.Just slip em on everytime u enter the room then toss them.I have a bunch of like fruit fly lookin bugs covering every Safer strip,but not one other kind of pest.They dont get away once they land on them. :canabis:
 

Joemutt1978

Member
I found the pest strip to be most effective for my closet grow.

Those jumpsuits? I am just laughing, thinking about the movie "outbreak" or something. All these scientists set up in the lab trying to get rid of spidermites. Funny stuff, you guys must have it bad! I had them for a week, but took control, and haven't seen them since.

Oh yeah Hog has a good thread on dipping your plants for bugs, If you guys are in that bad of shape, try it out.
 

badmf

Active member
Try dippin a couple hundred plants! You'll see it's better to not have them at all! I haven't had em in months, I can spend that cash on new beans or a trip to the Cup!
 
Hi Hi HIGH! *waves hello* great advice Badmf... no food, no plant material from the outside. Wash one's hands before messing around with stuff. I don't use any bug sprays, bombs... what has worked well for me for years is keeping everything squeeky clean. Now that everything here is 100% organic... place benificial nematodes into my soil mix... and every 30 days to the plants.... have ZERO gnats. Ladybugs keep the other stuff away... and look pretty too. *smiles* Now if I can only find some "Praying Mantis" (haven't a clue what they eat... but imagine they look very scary to other bugs. ha ha ha)... *waves bye* Akiko
 
G

Guest

Oh yeah forgot to mention in the post about spider mites but i will put it up here. When i was at the HTCC2k3 Soma had a better seminar and talked about prevention with Neem Oil cuz Lady bugs had gotten outlawed to imort into Holland. Well anyways he said to use warm water when mixing the oil with water and spraying. The oil seems to mix alot better with warm water. Works very well for me. Good Luck and BadMF is totally correct prevention is better then a cure. Good Luck Jubei
 
G

Guest

Sorry i forgot about using nylon stockings over intake fans. Sorry Badmf he is totally correct with using a cleaning solution on your shoes before entering and a suit aswell. I never really thought about products from the store but could be a breeding ground for pests from peeps coming and going. I'll have to start washing my stuff. Thanks BadMF.I have pretty much knocked them down and out but Summer is where i'll see if i need to bomb. The Co2 bomb i did worked great i didnt' see signs for months but slacked on the neem. So i may try that again before i go to the Attain TR Bug Bomb. I would suggest taking a shower and changing clothes if you want to be very preventive and not wear a space suit.
 

Freakazoid44

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I've found that simply cooking my soil and compost has done wonders for controlling mites. I have a gas grill, so I put it into an aluminum baking pan, add water, cover it with foil to trap the steam, and cook it for an hour or so.
 

Rider

Member
Good Advice BF

Good Advice BF

Great read BF I've battled bugs twice well three times. The first was thrips or whiteflys they are common on the grape vines that grow where i live. The first time both my clone mother and flowering plants got them.

The flowering plants had only three weeks to go so i just removed the infected shade leaves because these pests did not like the buds or leaves with glands on them. In fact looking at the buds under a scope i found a few of the pests stuck to the glands. But the plants in vegetation did not fair as well. It took several dunks to kill them and i lost my favorite clone as well. :mad: But i have to admit I've had better since. :wink:

The next time i had ants, odors house ant to be precise. I looked into my grow space to fine a chain of black ants heading in and out of my plants. Closer examination reveled the ants leaving were carrying tiny bits of green in their mouths. Looking at my plants covered in ants i could come to only one conclusion I WAS SCREWED. The next day they had gotten all the green stuff and left on their own, and my rockwool was picked clean of all the green algae. :biglaugh:


The third time was thrips again but it was with only two weeks left to harvest it was not a problem manually removing most of them. And even better my clones did not become infected! Since that last episode when ever i work in the outside garden I am very careful to shower and change my clothing before visiting my personal field of dreams. And now as a rule I sanitize my flowering room between each cycle.

BTW Freakazoid44 another cheaper why of sanitizing your soil before use is to put it on concrete and cover it with clear plastic. This will create enough heat to "cook" your soil on any sunny day thats above 70F. good luck
 

Freakazoid44

Active member
I'm an apartment dweller and I'm on a partitioned off private balcony, so in terms of keeping things low key, the grill works well for me.

Yes, though, I used to do that to kill weeds and stuff when I was a home dweller.

Good catch and good call.
 
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