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Perpetual groow room setting up

Hi guys, this is my first grow room ever. So I have this 4x5 ft (1.2 x 1.6 mt) wide, 6 ft (1.90 mt) tall, plain white painted room that I'm already converting into a grow room. I already have 5 AFs under 2x ~20W 6500K cfl bulbs (like 3000 lumens) and getting new lights within a couple of weeks. Also, I'm getting 5 Indica seeds in a few days. What I want to do, is splitting the room in halves with a drywall/laminated polycarbonate/wood, one for vegging (and possibly mother and clones) and one for flowering. As you will see in the pictures, The room has no windows or other air inlets. Just the entrance door.
 
As you can see in the first picture, access to the grow room is from the balcony, which is separated from my neighbour's balcony by just a glass in open air, this meaning I CANNOT HAVE ANY AIR LEAKS from the grow room to the balcony.
 
What I need to do within next week, is separating the whole room into 3 different rooms: one for vegging, one for flowering and one for operating.


As you can see, the door to the room is pretty old. To avoid air leaks to the balcony, I would just put some rubber gasket or something around it to avoid air leaks, and convert the small rectangular hole in the door into an exhaust with two holes: one connected through flexible aluminium duct to an extractor w/carbon scrubber in the flowering room (always running) and one for a smaller extractor w/carbon scrubber in the operating area, running when I get in to take care of the babies, to make sure operating area is clean before I open the main door to get out.
 
What I'd love to know now, is how to split up this big room into 3 smaller rooms, keeping in mind that I don't need smell from the flowering and veg rooms, into the operating area.

On the green lines in the picture, I would build a steel/wood frame, and put some drywall/plywood or some of this white polycarbonate I found today


What would you suggest? DRYWALL, PLYWOOD, or POLY? considering how would they be affected by the high humidity in the veg room, and keeping in mind that I need to build a smellprof acces to both flowering and veg room (no air from the rooms to the operating one).
 

Snow Crash

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As you can see... there's nothing here to see.

Where are the pictures? And what's up with the 4 posts in an hour?

Edit button is your friend.
 
i'd worry bout getting enough amps available in that room to run that size of a grow, I only see 1 plug....then drywall and mud, paint and grow, no light leaks
 

Snow Crash

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I'd just go with a grow tent rather than actually building something in there. There's just not enough space to really get the job done. A tent is quick up, quick down, and over time you can find a lot of other uses for them. A 3x3 (or 90cmx90cm) is probably what I'd add in.
 
I'm bringing some more amps inside the room before installing new lights.

I thought about building the 2 boxes with pvc pipe and panda film, but looks like tarp zippers ain't available around here...so I can't close them properly.

Thinking again about building a wooden frame and walls, put panda film on everything, and build wooden doors with rubber gasket around. Need to decide whether to split up the space as in the pictures, or build a 1' deep cabinet all around the room.
 

d reefnugs

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i dont know what materials cost where you live, but i found it way easier to buy a grow tent instead of tearing up my closet. i know its prolly not cost effective, but its super easy, no light leaks, and i can attach the scrubber for the smell right to the tent. my closet is wide enough for a 2x4 tent and a 2x2 small veg area
 
As of today, I brought some more amps in the room, and I have almost everything to set up an automated drip system. In the next few days, I'm going to put it to work, and put some polystyrene or something on the wall between me and my neighbour to try reducing the noise.
As I decided for a 4'x2' (6ft tall) flowering room, with 2x250w hps (hence about 7500 lumens per sqft) should I start thinking about the cooltube system? I guess a 150 cf/m extractor wont be enough
 
Is this an apartment or a townhouse/condo? If you don't own it, in my opinion you would be better off just getting a couple smaller tents. If it's an apartment you rent I really wouldn't go through the hassle of putting up walls and all that... What if there's an inspection? what if there's an emergency of some sort? Better to have tents you can pack up and get out of there if need be with little notice...
 
Is this an apartment or a townhouse/condo? If you don't own it, in my opinion you would be better off just getting a couple smaller tents. If it's an apartment you rent I really wouldn't go through the hassle of putting up walls and all that... What if there's an inspection? what if there's an emergency of some sort? Better to have tents you can pack up and get out of there if need be with little notice...

Location is safe, and in the end, I'm just separating the room with pandafilm and some wooden framing. I just set up a 250w MH bulb with no cooling, which got temps up to 90° F. Unfortunately the shop sent me an extractor without thermostat, so I'm bringing it back tomorrow to get the right one. Hopefully I'll have it mounted tomorrow to cool down the place a bit. The 250w MH is standing in the 5'x4'x6' whole room now, but it's final veg box will be 40"x20" (6ft tall), this being a 35 cubic feet. I want to blow the air from the veg room into the flowering room with a 80 cfm (at max speed) inline. Passive air intake will be from a hole big enough to keep negative pressure, covered by some kind of air/furnace filter. QUESTION: will this be enough to keep the 35 cubic feet veg room at a reasonable temperature? FURTHERMORE: What if air goes though a cooled hood before being blown into the flowering room? like air intake hole-->veg room --> cooled hood --> 10" long duct --> 80cfm inline fan --> flowering room? Would this work? Flowering room will be 3'10"x2'x~6', 50 cubic feet, with a 110 cfm duct fan with carbon scrubber. The point is to have the MH veg room little smell and hot air going to the flower room, cleaned again by the 110 cfm, keeping everything cool and under negative pressure. Then I'll think about whether to cool hood 2x250 hps in the flowering room on a standalone system, or suck air again through the 2 cooled hoods with the 110 cfm extractor, with no more than 3' of duct plus cooled hoods, which may be too much.
 
Back with updates.
In the end, I built a wooden frame to close the bottom of the room, which will serve as a 4'x2' flowering room with 2x250w hps.


On the right and left I have put some white painted inox sheets, leaving a little door in the middle, closed with panda film.

Once I closed everything, I set up the 160 cfm extractor to suck air through a duct really close to the bulb (until I have the cooled hoods built). The air is obviously blown througha carbon scrubber.

This allowed temps to drop from 93-96 °F to 82-85 °F.

I have 4 AFs at around day 40 from seed now under a 250w hps.
I also have 5 seeds flowering outdoors, that you can follow in their threads coming up.

Here's a preview.


Pics taken at around day 20-25.
New pics soon.
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